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ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
 
ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
You forgot NC's in Field Hockey, W Tennis 21-22
 
I did not put down tennis, golf, fencing, softball...

Yes...I only put down the recent in Field Hocket...15 NC's since 2000
 
Unless there are more $$ on the table then UNC won't change it's no vote. So either ESPN/the ACC/ND come up with $$$, doesn't matter which
If those schools aren't taking payment, whose getting the money?
 
Yes, they're great in water polo. They suck in football and basketball, Cal sucks harder.
They may be going through a rough patch but look up their win totals for the last 20 years.
 
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If those schools aren't taking payment, whose getting the money?
If the money is evenly distributed then that is a no go. 3-5 million net revenue helps but is negated by more travel expenses.
 
It is not exactly a tough sell to recruit Olympic athletes to Stanford.

- You are going to Palo Alto, one of the morr expensive neighbourhoods with average home price of $3.3M, for 4 years.

- beautiful CA weather for 4 years.

- You are getting a scholarship from one of the top 3 universities in the USA.

it's not exactly that hard to recruit top athletes here, which is why Stanford wins the Director cup every year. Over 20% of Olympic athletes came from CA for the USA. Stanford, and in some ways Cal as well, have these built-in advantages few schools have.
Why isn’t Pepperdine P5?
 
ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
Which is part of the appeal for Stanford. They don’t need the money, but they carecabout that stuff.
 
If the money is evenly distributed then that is a no go. 3-5 million net revenue helps but is negated by more travel expenses.
But damn. That's more travel expenses for everyone. ACC is an unhealthy conference if those are the mindsets.
 
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It is not exactly a tough sell to recruit Olympic athletes to Stanford.

- You are going to Palo Alto, one of the morr expensive neighbourhoods with average home price of $3.3M, for 4 years.

- beautiful CA weather for 4 years.

- You are getting a scholarship from one of the top 3 universities in the USA.

it's not exactly that hard to recruit top athletes here, which is why Stanford wins the Director cup every year. Over 20% of Olympic athletes came from CA for the USA. Stanford, and in some ways Cal as well, have these built-in advantages few schools have.
Directors cup is BS. But, No question Stanford is a great AS department, but their football doesn’t draw. Cal is worse.

No chance they belong in ACC.
 
The West Virginia basement twitterati have checked in...Chris Lambert (formerly the Dude of West Virginia) and MHVER....
 
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I don’t see Miami being in favor of adding Stanford or Cal either, even though they have not been a reported no vote. Miami may never get into the SEC, but they are easily a B1G target to give the B1G a presence in recruiting-rich Florida.
 
The strongest indication to me is that this hasn’t been shut down already. This dragging out implies negotiation of some sort.
That may very well be what's happening but if it's true that all 3 are willing to forego tv distributions for up to 5 years then they can't offer anything else. So that leaves ESPN & existing members. So whatever is on the table is not good enough yet
 
Yeah, I’m unsure why this is ongoing.

I do wish ESPN had saved their money they splurged on (checks notes), Central Florida, BYU AND Utah, Colorado, and Cincinnati. Could have used it to entice Notre Dame or keep FSU/Clemson/UNC out of trying to break down the doors to get into the B10.
 
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How are these supposed journalists/reporters getting accurate and detailed info enough to know the specific schools in favor of/not in favor of the PAC schools? Seems to me this would be private/guarded info. Unless, some part of the magnificent 7 wanted to stir up the pot to show their unhappiness in the ACC?
 
How are these supposed journalists/reporters getting accurate and detailed info enough to know the specific schools in favor of/not in favor of the PAC schools? Seems to me this would be private/guarded info. Unless, some part of the magnificent 7 wanted to stir up the pot to show their unhappiness in the ACC?
Same way they know who is in the portal before the players say anything.
 
Equal treatment...men's lacrosse, soccer, etc....will have the same travel requirements....

This is not how Title IX works. By your logic, women's sports should have full contact practices in pads just because football does it. Here is the text of Title IX:

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

A really strong case will be made that requiring 2000 mile midweek travel is discriminating against female athletes based on their sex/gender. It may not be a slam dunk, but this is one of those cases where I would much rather be the plaintiff than the defendant. And it is not out of the question that a judge could issue an injunction to prevent the schools from moving conferences.

The easiest solution for the NCAA is to simply amend the rules to let football be in separate conferences.
 
This is not how Title IX works. By your logic, women's sports should have full contact practices in pads just because football does it. Here is the text of Title IX:



A really strong case will be made that requiring 2000 mile midweek travel is discriminating against female athletes based on their sex/gender. It may not be a slam dunk, but this is one of those cases where I would much rather be the plaintiff than the defendant. And it is not out of the question that a judge could issue an injunction to prevent the schools from moving conferences.

The easiest solution for the NCAA is to simply amend the rules to let football be in separate conferences.
Discriminating against all non revenue men's and women's sports requiring 2000 mile midweek travel.
 
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