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You helped kill the old BE.Man, this guy... ND has everything we want, we will not lead the charge to kill the conference.
You helped kill the old BE.Man, this guy... ND has everything we want, we will not lead the charge to kill the conference.
No, the ACC is beyond saving, we do not add enough even if we did join. They really hurt themselves with the 2036 contract.
Nope.You helped kill the old BE.
The Big East killed the Big East.You helped kill the old BE.
Exactly. Just like the PAC is jeopardizing their own existence, not the B1G or the Big12.The Big East killed the Big East.
It had 15 other schools in it that could not perform or make good enough decisions or draw enough eyeballs to save their own conference.
They were divided as well. They could not generate enough money on their own to survive.
It wasn't ND's duty to abandon independence to "save" the Big East.
The same thing is happening with the ACC. It has 14 other schools who decided to sign the horrible, long ESPN contract/GOR.
They cannot draw enough TV eyeballs to generate enough cash to compete. They caused their own difficulties and cannot get out of their own way.
If 14 or 15 school conferences cannot keep their conference relevant, that is on them.
Actually you did. If Notre Dame doesn't side with the Basketball onlies they don't have the votes to split with the leverage that they had.Nope.
Actually, ESPN killed the Big East. They made a business decision that it was less expensive for them to pay the ACC a slight premium to take enough members from the Big East to destabilize it. It took a couple of tries but ultimately they were successful.The Big East killed the Big East.
It had 15 other schools in it that could not perform or make good enough decisions or draw enough eyeballs to save their own conference.
They were divided as well. They could not generate enough money on their own to survive.
No, it wasn't. Notre Dame looks after Notre Dame's interests and not the interests of the group it is arguably a part of. Something conferences should keep in mind when they're falling all over themselves offering Notre Dame membership. But, Notre Dame indisputably brings value. You just have to accept the bad with the good.It wasn't ND's duty to abandon independence to "save" the Big East
Really? What an odd coincidence. Oh well, I'm quite sure you'll land on your feet, even if that departure comes out a moment that's fatal to the rest of the conference.The same thing is happening with the ACC. It has 14 other schools who decided to sign the horrible, long ESPN contract/GOR.
Unlike Declan SullivanReally? What an odd coincidence. Oh well, I'm quite sure you’ll land on your feet,
Buyer beware to future conferences. Be careful letting ND come in everything but FB. Look at what happened to the Big East and ACC. If the ACC crumbles who takes them in everything but FB next?The Big East killed the Big East.
It had 15 other schools in it that could not perform or make good enough decisions or draw enough eyeballs to save their own conference.
They were divided as well. They could not generate enough money on their own to survive.
It wasn't ND's duty to abandon independence to "save" the Big East.
The same thing is happening with the ACC. It has 14 other schools who decided to sign the horrible, long ESPN contract/GOR.
They cannot draw enough TV eyeballs to generate enough cash to compete. They caused their own difficulties and cannot get out of their own way.
If 14 or 15 school conferences cannot keep their conference relevant, that is on them.
Somebody will.Buyer beware to future conferences. Be careful letting ND come in everything but FB. Look at what happened to the Big East and ACC. If the ACC crumbles who takes them in everything but FB next?
Why?Somebody will.
Who?Somebody will.
Well IMO it could only be the Big 12 or Big East. Any other conference would be a firm no or way to far-away.Who?
Who cares?Who?
They might finally get squeezed into making a decision. Everyone who has has given them refuge has been targeted for annihilation.Who cares?
I don’t think the Big12 would bite nor do I think it would be a match like the Old Big East or the ACC. I could be very wrong, though. The Big East? That’s my guess as to what would be the best fit.Well IMO it could only be the Big 12 or Big East. Any other conference would be a firm no or way to far-away.
Both are a stretch to be honest. The Big East really only makes sense because of the Catholic identity and shared history.I don’t think the Big12 would bite nor do I think it would be a match like the Old Big East or the ACC. I could be very wrong, though. The Big East? That’s my guess as to what would be the best fit.
My thought too, but the Big East would let have a full Indy schedule with no commitments to any other conference. Is that worth something?Both are a stretch to be honest. The Big East really only makes sense because of the Catholic identity and shared history.
Assuming Notre Dame remains independent and resigns a contract with NBC, surely NBC will want Notre Dame and the B1G to play each other more since NBC has vested interest in both parties.
ND and Texas do the least with the most $ND calls all of the shots
ND is 63-14 the past six years with two playoff berths.ND and Texas do the least with the most $
Want to explain why the other 15 schools (Big East) and 14 schools (ACC) could not and cannot get their own acts together to "save" their own conferences without ND ????Actually you did. If Notre Dame doesn't side with the Basketball onlies they don't have the votes to split with the leverage that they had.
Actually, ESPN killed the Big East. They made a business decision that it was less expensive for them to pay the ACC a slight premium to take enough members from the Big East to destabilize it. It took a couple of tries but ultimately they were successful.
The Big East ratings were excellent some of the best in the nation consistently.
No, it wasn't. Notre Dame looks after Notre Dame's interests and not the interests of the group it is arguably a part of. Something conferences should keep in mind when they're falling all over themselves offering Notre Dame membership. But, Notre Dame indisputably brings value. You just have to accept the bad with the good.
Really? What an odd coincidence. Oh well, I'm quite sure you'll land on your feet, even if that departure comes out a moment that's fatal to the rest of the conference.
Well, I just be guessing but perhaps because they didn't anticipate disloyalty and self dealing from within their own ranks?Want to explain why the other 15 schools (Big East) and 14 schools (ACC) could not and cannot get their own acts together to "save" their own conferences without ND ????
The Big East and ACC have had issues and perhaps not being able to satisfy the pure greed of media partners was one of them.The Big East killed the Big East.
It had 15 other schools in it that could not perform or make good enough decisions or draw enough eyeballs to save their own conference.
They were divided as well. They could not generate enough money on their own to survive.
It wasn't ND's duty to abandon independence to "save" the Big East.
The same thing is happening with the ACC. It has 14 other schools who decided to sign the horrible, long ESPN contract/GOR.
They cannot draw enough TV eyeballs to generate enough cash to compete. They caused their own difficulties and cannot get out of their own way.
If 14 or 15 school conferences cannot keep their conference relevant, that is on them.
How many championships?ND is 63-14 the past six years with two playoff berths.
Does Texas have the same record?