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HuskyHawk said:
He says only BYU, Houston and Cinci are being seriously considered. Good thing his opinion is worth as much as the stuff they pump out of a porta-potty.
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HuskyHawk said:
He says only BYU, Houston and Cinci are being seriously considered. Good thing his opinion is worth as much as the stuff they pump out of a porta-potty.
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Interesting that it claims WVU would be against Cinci. If true that is surprising as it was somewhat assumed that another school in the same time zone would be good for them.

I hate to say it but it would be better for UConn if OU and UT were highly ranked this season.
 
The Funster said:
That's assuming millennials will be interested in live sports programming.
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A recent survey showed that many millennials don't eat breakfast cereal because it is too much of a hassle to clean up - compared to on-the-go breakfast sandwiches or the like. Who knows what they'll be interested in down the road!
 
CoastAtlantic said:
MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 19h19 hours ago
Hell of a lot of things changing as we speak. UH upping the pressure on UT. Boren mad as hell. Update coming later this evening.
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I wonder which conversation is more civilized - XII expansion talks (sounds like UH knows they are as good as they are going to get so they are desperate to move forward now) or last night's Presidential debate. At least we know the Election, for better or worse, will be over on November 8th.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I wonder which conversation is more civilized - XII expansion talks (sounds like UH knows they are as good as they are going to get so they are desperate to move forward now) or last night's Presidential debate. At least we know the Election, for better or worse, will be over on November 8th.
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Maybe not...remember 2000???? ;)
 
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alexd. said:
Maybe not...remember 2000???? ;)
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I do and was trying to forget, especially if these two clowns are involved.

Though, it would give me some extra time to move to Canada.

PS - If I move to Canada, would I get in-state tuition for my kids to go to Syracuse?
 
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billybud said:
From A BYU board...OU-Texas rumors from a show host..."The Monty Show"

Monty unloads on Big12 expansion situation (BamaCoug) - CougarBoard.com
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If we are not in, then I vote for B12 implosion.
CL82 said:
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow
...there is no expansion. I am told there is a plan in place to "jump ship" from #BIGXII involving current Texas schools, BYU and Houston.

6:30 PM - 26 Sep 2016

Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow
My source said: GOR is great in theory but no one is willing to spend the time and effort to lose...impossible win in court#BIGXII

6:31 PM - 26 Sep 2
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So the plan presumably would be to replace UT and OU with Houston and BYU when the two leave at the end of the GOR in 2025. Frankly, that sounds rather plausible.
 
Exit 4 said:
If we are not in, then I vote for B12 implosion.


So the plan presumably would be to replace UT and OU with Houston and BYU when the two leave at the end of the GOR in 2025. Frankly, that sounds rather plausible.
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And the Big 12 would continue to have 10 teams? Good luck on your next TV contract Big XII. :D
 
So let me get this straight, Texas, TCU, TTU, Houston, BYU will jump ship together and......do what? Form a five-team conference? Join the Pac-17?
 
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Exit 4 said:
If we are not in, then I vote for B12 implosion.


So the plan presumably would be to replace UT and OU with Houston and BYU when the two leave at the end of the GOR in 2025. Frankly, that sounds rather plausible.
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Something tells me the other 8 B12 schools wouldn't be so hunky dory about that and would start looking for new homes. UT and OU are the only two entities holding that conference together.
 
HuskyHawk said:
And the Big 12 would continue to have 10 teams? Good luck on your next TV contract Big XII. :D
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Yep, it would leave them with that footprint which is undersized compared to the other power conferences...however, no need to decide on the other new schools today. They can wait on that until 2022 or so. Of course they risk losing some of the remaining chess pieces like UConn, but I think its clear that how they wish to play it. Besides, there is always the chance UT and OU don't leave and the GOR is extended in 2025.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
So let me get this straight, Texas, TCU, TTU, Houston, BYU will jump ship together and.do what? Form a five-team conference? Join the Pac-17?
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I presume all stay except for OU and UT. ISU, OKST, KS and KS st have no place to go.
 
Exit 4 said:
Yep, it would leave them with that footprint which is undersized compared to the other power conferences...however, no need to decide on the other new schools today. They can wait on that until 2022 or so. Of course they risk losing some of the remaining chess pieces like UConn, but I think its clear that how they wish to play it. Besides, there is always the chance UT and OU don't leave and the GOR is extended in 2025.
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It's incredibly stupid for two reasons. One, they get a ton of money if they add schools now. Two, bringing in the schools now will cause them to appear to be normal, full fledged P5 programs when OU and UT leave and the TV deal is renegotiated. In their model, they get less money now, and less money later as those schools will be perceived as less valuable "G5".
 
HuskyHawk said:
It's incredibly stupid for two reasons. One, they get a ton of money if they add schools now. Two, bringing in the schools now will cause them to appear to be normal, full fledged P5 programs when OU and UT leave and the TV deal is renegotiated. In their model, they get less money now, and less money later as those schools will be perceived as less valuable "G5".
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Thats not news to me. I'm just extrapolating on what seems like incredible resistance to the B12 expansion happening today and/or tomorrow. If UT wont extend the GOR and the factions cant come to terms on the 2 or 4 school expansion, then isn't preparing for a conf w/o UT and OU a logical next step for the remaining schools? So yes, it seems the 10 squabbling schools are at an impasse which will cost them dearly today and squander the chance to groom 2 or 4 schools for a better media deal in 2025.
 
The Little XIII becomes a G5 conference. Only Texas and OH have any football appeal outside their regional markets. The Big Ten will show interest in Kansas, primarily for Basketball, but the others (especially the remaining Lone Star State institutions) are screwed to the floorboards.
 
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Husky25 said:
The Little XIII becomes a G5 conference. Only Texas and OH have any football appeal outside their regional markets. The Big Ten will show interest in Kansas, primarily for Basketball, but the others (especially the remaining Lone Star State institutions) are screwed to the floorboards.
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I'm sure the little 8 deep down inside recognize their diminutive status. Unfortunately for them, mom and dad are fighting and neither will agree about having kids and whether their marriage should last beyond 2025. Seems like given all the connections made between the schools over the past 6 months it would be only natural to have cloud talk about who would replace mom and dad. BYU and Houston aren't going anywhere anytime soon under and ordinary circumstances, might as well whisper a thumbs up as members in waiting for 2026.

Yes, that new media deal will be a big step back. What choice do they have?
 
TRest said:
Ask Pudge.
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I'm not very smaht.

My partner & I just played golf with his 25 year reunion posse from Harvard Business School. Several made money selling out Cable & Media companies all over the world (and gifted 90% of their HBS class total this renunion). There's Capital available. I don't think we know what the technology is going to be. I simply don't think ESPN has locked this sport up for the next 20 years as some of you posture; I think there are some long term contracts that have been done recently (hmm ESPN) that control these conferences with assets that aren't that broadly valuable; and you have US (and Houston, UCF, USF, etc) ... making less than $2m per year.

The golf was far more enlightening on this subject than I posted.
 
NYUConn said:
It's a SUNY, so unfortunately not you'd have to be a resident of NY.
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IS this a joke>?

Nope. Syracuse University is not a SUNY. They have a small component SUNY directly adjacent to campus (SUNY Forestry); but, they are not a PUBLIC.

This has always been a key element in the discussion of Northeastern Power 5 for me. Neither Syracuse nor Boston College are Public; they are essentially zipcode fanbases with little regional appeal. That's far more true of BC than Syracuse. Syracuse has a smattering of influence in Albany & Buffalo ... and a good size in Rochester. NYC? They share with many; I would say they are top 4 and we are right near them in Branding today. Public Schools, in the long run, are far more feasible as Power 5 full fledged Programs. Football would develop over time at UConn and Buffalo. I think the "tradition" that has long been a key component in College Football is not that strong for either BC or Syracuse. Jumping in front of us as BC did was a survival motive. Apparently, they were far more prescient than our AD at that time. Of course, they are not a dismal sports product in many ways.

Buffalo? Read their MasterPlan. UBuffalo is pushing to grow significantly; they have a dynamic president; and once again, they have their future now blocked by the timing of the FBS evolution.
 
Exit 4 said:
I presume all stay except for OU and UT. ISU, OKST, KS and KS st have no place to go.
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I would think a few of those might try to seek other options, including TT and OSU using political power to stick with their counterpart. A Big 12 minus UT and OU, and potentially TTU and OSU is on the fast track to Group of 6 status.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I would think a few of those might try to seek other options, including TT and OSU using political power to stick with their counterpart. A Big 12 minus UT and OU, and potentially TTU and OSU is on the fast track to Group of 6 status.
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Given the financial requirements necessary to carry your own weight in the power conferences, I don't see how OSU or TTU have a snowball's chance anywhere else unless they are willing to take a permanent discount on the % share of the conference haul. OSU and TTU have relatively little media value. The cable boxes, download potential and target audience demographics for advertisers are just not there.
 
Pudge said:
IS this a joke>?

Nope. Syracuse University is not a SUNY. They have a small component SUNY directly adjacent to campus (SUNY Forestry); but, they are not a PUBLIC.

This has always been a key element in the discussion of Northeastern Power 5 for me. Neither Syracuse nor Boston College are Public; they are essentially zipcode fanbases with little regional appeal. That's far more true of BC than Syracuse. Syracuse has a smattering of influence in Albany & Buffalo ... and a good size in Rochester. NYC? They share with many; I would say they are top 4 and we are right near them in Branding today. Public Schools, in the long run, are far more feasible as Power 5 full fledged Programs. Football would develop over time at UConn and Buffalo. I think the "tradition" that has long been a key component in College Football is not that strong for either BC or Syracuse. Jumping in front of us as BC did was a survival motive. Apparently, they were far more prescient than our AD at that time. Of course, they are not a dismal sports product in many ways.

Buffalo? Read their MasterPlan. UBuffalo is pushing to grow significantly; they have a dynamic president; and once again, they have their future now blocked by the timing of the FBS evolution.
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Yes, it was 100% a joke.

Calling Syracuse a SUNY is the fastest way to get under an Orange fans skin.
 
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