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[JSM1970]

I think in general the Northeast doesn't care much about college football. Which is a dual thing in a sense. The actual product is terrible. College football is awful, hard to watch it's so bad.

But the tailgate and atmosphere might be the best in sports. Being in B12 and having tailgates would be phenomenal. Imagine even having a game against Texas Tech at the Rent. That would be great.

NYC DMA isn't college football friendly...I know..I live and work in it. It IS college basketball friendly. The reason it is basketball friendly..NYC has always been and always will be a basketball Mecca on the eastern seaboard. Pro sports run the show here...college football is popular by alumni bases that work and live in the DMA. I'll give you another one...take a look at Hockey East rosters and see how many kids come from the NYC DMA (there are a bunch)...yet college hockey doesn't even register here. But the Rangers and Islanders dominate the market...they even push the Devils to an after thought here. But what is know here in the NYC DMA is this...if the area it serves has a college team that belongs to a conference that has a network..you get a premium subscriber rate. I fully know that if UConn gets into the B-12 and somehow the B-12 schools end up getting Texas to move on converting the LHN to a B12N my FIOS bill is gonna go up...just like it went up when RU joined the B-1o.

 

[whaler11]

I think in general the Northeast doesn't care much about college football. Which is a dual thing in a sense. The actual product is terrible. College football is awful, hard to watch it's so bad.

But the tailgate and atmosphere might be the best in sports. Being in B12 and having tailgates would be phenomenal. Imagine even having a game against Texas Tech at the Rent. That would be great.

Having seen a bunch of teams that are better than Texas Tech at the Rent it's not that hard to wrap my head around.

 

[BlueMAB]

Everyone else has already given up, I'm not going bother any further as you don't seem paticularly interested in doing anything other than wheel spinning.

But hey you have a good day now.

Wouldn't be spinning wheels if you'd answer the question directly, but you have a good day too.

 

[amory]

I think in general the Northeast doesn't care much about college football. Which is a dual thing in a sense. The actual product is terrible. College football is awful, hard to watch it's so bad.

But the tailgate and atmosphere might be the best in sports. Being in B12 and having tailgates would be phenomenal. Imagine even having a game against Texas Tech at the Rent. That would be great.

I think the whole "northeast doesn't care about college football" thing is a catch 22. Before just recently, none of the schools in the northeast were in elite college football conferences. They weren't playing against big opponents and didn't get elite recruits.
The schools that are now in those conferences are either doing well or, I think, will do well eventually. Look at Penn State. Ignore BC because they're just generally a POS in all regards.

 

[RMoore1999]

I think Flug is right - and it sort of shows how broken the Big 12 is.

The right move is to add 2 - Cinci and UConn and try to build
up the league's value to survive at the next negotiation.

Instead they will probably add 4 and completely screw it up because these fools can't make what is really a simple decision. Because Kansas should have Houston in their league so Texas can build a campus near them - that's some solid decision making.

The only thing worse than being passed over by this league... is being in this league.

You almost nailed it. The only thing worse than being in this league would be to be passed over by this league.

 

[whaler11]

You almost nailed it. The only thing worse than being in this league would be to be passed over by this league.

Almost - Wish me better luck next time!

 

[NEforceUConn]

I think you are wrong here.

Unlike the Big 10 and Rutgers, the ACC should not get an in-market rate for NYC as Syracuse is not part of the NYC TV market. The actual Syracuse TV market is very small, so an ACC Network may only have a small in-market footprint in NY state. Maybe the ACC can push into adjacent TV markets like Buffalo and Albany and push for in-market rates there, but that is unclear. Obviously, all of NY would probably get an ACC Network, but mostly at the out of market rate. Delaney of the Big 10 understood media markets, which is why he grabbed Rutgers and Maryland and caught the ACC flat footed. As we all now know, Rutgers was the golden goose of conference networks.

If the ACC wanted to push for an in-market rate in NYC, or at least a higher out-of-market rate, they would probably need UConn. So, yes, UConn would be a valuable asset for an ACC Network. In fact, having UConn in the ACC might also get a higher rate in most of New England.

I believe this is an interesting time for UConn, the Big 10, and the ACC. UConn with Rutgers and Penn St would mean NYC is clearly a Big 10 market. The ACC with Syracuse, UConn, and Notre Dame would have a strong foothold in NYC. Seems logical that something should happen.

Yes I think you are on to something, take New England - if a cable suscriber can choose between ACCn (with Cuse or BCU), or B1G 10 (with RU) or Big 12 (with UConn) I got to think CT, Mass, VT, ME, and RI choose UConn and Big 12. In NYC its up in the air, but if subscribers have the choice its RU (Big 10), closely followed by UConn (Big 12) . The ACCn doesn't hold a candle.

Hmmmm.

But then again if all UConn can get at a home game is 28,000 then that's a very sad story, no matter what we think. The UVA and Navy games at least should be close to sell outs, or we really belong somewhere else..

 

[HartbeatHusky]

they say what airport?

He said out of Waterbury. I have no idea if it's legit but I saw the tweet from Flug that Herbst would be taking a trip and I got that email from my coworker and figured I'd pass it along.

 

[NEforceUConn]

Great time for the former poster (think his handle was "Its for Real" or something), who seemed like a very credible source to pontificate on Big 12 expansion and UConn (or has he been let go from espn)

 

[noeynox]

How connected is Greg Swaim? His latest tweets don't look good for us.

 

[whaler11]

Yes I think you are on to something, take New England - if a cable suscriber can choose between ACCn (with Cuse or BCU), or B1G 10 (with RU) or Big 12 (with UConn) I got to think CT, Mass, VT, ME, and RI choose UConn and Big 12. In NYC its up in the air, but if subscribers have the choice its RU (Big 10), closely followed by UConn (Big 12) . The ACCn doesn't hold a candle.

Hmmmm.

But then again if all UConn can get at a home game is 28,000 then that's a very sad story, no matter what we think. The UVA and Navy games at least should be close to sell outs, or we really belong somewhere else..

In this fantasy land that doesn't exist the ACCN with Duke, Carolina and Syracuse basketball would win in any kind of vote in NYC.

 

[NEforceUConn]

Think t+2 or t+3 if the Big 12 does expand: UC and UConn don't do much in the long run. UC, UConn, UH, and BYU/Navy/Boise does make for a better conference in 4 years - no questions asked. If UT and Okahoma want to leave it still is a darn good conference.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

He said out of Waterbury

Who knew Waterbury even had an airport, not to be confused with Waterbury-Oxford Airport? Small charters, and private planes? Waterbury Airport (Connecticut) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Marty Jackson]

Well done. I feel like I am taking crazy pills every time I come across someone saying some nonsense about Cincinnati having such great Fortune 500 support. At the top of this list is the company that has donated the land (and continues to donate land) so that UConn can build a football stadium in the heart of the state, right off a major highway artery. But yeah, Cincinnati has 1 Fortune 500 company that apparently has a few hundred employees that went to UC.

Missing from this list? ESPN/Disney. They're the ones who are shelling out $1B to add 4 additional schools.

No. Missing from that list is GE which can go pound sand.

 

[FDNY99]

In this fantasy land that doesn't exist the ACCN with Duke, Carolina and Syracuse basketball would win in any kind of vote in NYC.

Cuse is becoming a non-entity in NYC...LI is a different story

 

[whaler11]

Think t+2 or t+3 if the Big 12 does expand: UC and UConn don't do much in the long run. UC, UConn, UH, and BYU/Navy/Boise does make for a better conference in 4 years - no questions asked. If UT and Okahoma want to leave it still is a darn good conference.

You do realize anybody else you'd add now would be there in the future right?

You let the other schools battle over the ensuing years and skim the cream.

 

[TRest]

Who knew Waterbury even had an airport, not to be confused with Waterbury-Oxford Airport? Small charters, and private planes? Waterbury Airport (Connecticut) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lear jets.fly out of there, it's plausible.

 

[NEforceUConn]

In this fantasy land that doesn't exist the ACCN with Duke, Carolina and Syracuse basketball would win in any kind of vote in NYC.

Compared with Uconn in the B1g - I think the UConn, MSU , Indiana tOSU at the Garden would show Uconn's draw.

Yes Duke, UNC, and Cuse is somewhat strong, but a BIG 12 with UConn, Kansas , UT, and the Oklahomas' would be almost competitive 60/40 ACC. So we are an important pawn in the game.

 

[whaler11]

Compared with Uconn in the B1g - I think the UConn, MSU , Indiana tOSU at the Garden would show Uconn's draw.

Yes Duke, UNC, and Cuse is somewhat strong, but a BIG 12 with UConn, Kansas , UT, and the Oklahomas' would be almost competitive 60/40 ACC. So we are an important pawn in the game.

We are talking about TV networks.

If you'd like to ignore how popular Duke and Carolina are in the Northeast that's fine.

People killed Wing today - but for such an important pawn we are stuck hoping to massage a path to the worst P5 league - so a lot of powerful people see it differently.

 

[NEforceUConn]

whaler - yes UNC and Duke are strong in NYC but for the general sports fan in greater NY that could have the chance to choose which conference network (and only one) that they pay for I think a BIG 10 with UConn would trump accn and I think a BIG 12 with UConn would lose 60/40 to the new ACCn. The B!G as it is , in bb, would not exist in NYC. But lets talk fb.

 

[whaler11]

whaler - yes UNC and Duke are strong in NYC but for the general sports fan in greater NY that could have the chance to choose which conference network (and only one) that they pay for I think a BIG 10 with UConn would trump accn and I think a BIG 12 with UConn would lose 60/40 to the new ACCn. The B!G as it is , in bb, would not exist in NYC. But lets talk fb.

I'm sorry I thought we were talking about realistic things.

 

[BlueMAB]

W

We are talking about TV networks.

If you'd like to ignore how popular Duke and Carolina are in the Northeast that's fine.

People killed Wing today - but for such an important pawn we are stuck hoping to massage a path to the worst P5 league - so a lot of powerful people see it differently.

shhhh. Stop trolling the board with silly things like reality.

 

[NEforceUConn]

Lets talk cable subscribers in NE, and then NY,C that have a choice of 1 college network to pay for and the current choice of ACCn, B1G and the "possibility of a Big12n with UConn:

Rank NE under those critiaia
Rank the NYC market (yes its a pro-town but colleges like to want it) under those critiia. You go.

 

[BlueMAB]

Does the fact that networks are moving toward digital content and away from the traditional carrier matter in this hypothetical world, or is that too real?

 

[whaler11]

Lets talk cable subscribers in NE, and then NY,C that have a choice of 1 college network to pay for and the current choice of ACCn, B1G and the "possibility of a Big12n with UConn:

Rank NE under those critiaia
Rank the NYC market (yes its a pro-town but colleges like to want it) under those critiia. You go.

I guess people have talked themselves into 'New England' - but it's Hartford/New Haven/Middlesex/Windham a little bit of Springfield, some Rhode Island and a small percentage of big populations in Ffld, Boston and NYC. Western Mass/Vermont/New Hampshire/Maine... sports may as well not exist there outside of the Red Sox, Giants and Patriots.