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Looking at the NFL draft... if I'm the Big 10 the school I want to end up with is Georgia Tech.

Not exactly a lack of cable boxes there either.
 
HuskyHawk said:
This is as non-key as it gets. No idea who she is.

Princess Sarah. ‏@_AutumnSarahh 20h20 hours ago
Uconn deciding btwn the ACC and B1G conference
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
Me either but she seems credible to me.

Hey your majesty how long until an announcement is made?


Really? I was thinking it would be 20 minutes...
 
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TerryD said:
So, you think that the GOR is no impediment? I agree that an exit fee is just the cost of doing business.

But, I doubt that the Big Ten is willing to fight that legal battle on the GOR for Virginia Tech. Just my take.
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Based on CSNBBS conversation a while back (at least I think it was there), where does the GoR come in to play if
  • ESPN has tier 1 for both ACC and Big Ten
  • Acc school moves to B1G
  • ESPN doesn't reduce ACC payout (not a stretch unless you're talking FSU, UNC)
  • B1G is happy with whatever it gets with the next contract
 
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huskypantz said:
I can vouch for Princess Sarah. I know her well, she was born in the fall and her last name begins with H.
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I'm thinking that she's probably Gretchen's (from the other meandering lifeless CR thread) hotter cousin.
 
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Seaa Blue said:
Based on CSNBBS conversation a while back (at least I think it was there), where does the GoR come in to play if
  • ESPN has tier 1 for both ACC and Big Ten
  • Acc school moves to B1G
  • ESPN doesn't reduce ACC payout (not a stretch unless you're talking FSU, UNC)
  • B1G is happy with whatever it gets with the next contract
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The Grant of Rights isn't to ESPN...it is to the conference. The conference is the receiver of that grant and would decide whether to enforce it, or not. I suspect nobody in any GOR conference wants a challenge that may affect their GOR,

The Business of College Sports says...


In these agreements, all of the conference members grant their television broadcast rights to their athletic contests to the conference for a certain period of time. If a member leaves the conference during that time, the conference retains the member’s television rights. Because the value of a school to a conference is the television revenue it can help generate, a grant of rights agreement makes the members essentially worthless to another conference that is looking for new members.
 
billybud said:
The Grant of Rights isn't to ESPN...it is to the conference. The conference is the receiver of that grant and would decide whether to enforce it, or not. I suspect nobody in any GOR conference wants a challenge that may affect their GOR,

The Business of College Sports says...


In these agreements, all of the conference members grant their television broadcast rights to their athletic contests to the conference for a certain period of time. If a member leaves the conference during that time, the conference retains the member’s television rights. Because the value of a school to a conference is the television revenue it can help generate, a grant of rights agreement makes the members essentially worthless to another conference that is looking for new members.
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GOR actually only pertains to their home games, so "worthless" is a half truth no?
 
billybud said:
The Grant of Rights isn't to ESPN...it is to the conference. The conference is the receiver of that grant and would decide whether to enforce it, or not. I suspect nobody in any GOR conference wants a challenge that may affect their GOR,
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A school grants the conference the right to negotiate the contract. Without a GoR in place, ESPN would not know for sure what it is getting in this day of realignment. With the GoR, ESPN knows exactly what it is purchasing, even if a team changes conference. And the price ESPN is willing to pay will rise accordingly.

Once ESPN has acquired the rights via the conference and agreed to a price, it gets interesting if a team moves to another conference where ESPN also holds the rights. ESPN has what it bargained for, no damage done there. And as long as the former conference is still receiving the agreed upon payout, hard to show any damage there. The conference receiving the team now has an extra mouth to feed, but if said conference is already in the process of negotiating a new contract then there can still be plenty of cash to go around.

ESPN is then free to pick up whatever game it likes as Tier 1, and the conferences don't care so much because the payout for the season was already determined. Also, ESPN has to walk a fine line here with the conferences because there is probably some sort of "best interest" clause in the TV contracts, so they would want to keep both of their customers happy.

BTN might be a little upset if games don't fall to them because of the GoR, but I think the impact would be relatively small given that there would be other games available for back fill.
 
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billybud said:
.... If a member leaves the conference during that time, the conference retains the member’s television rights. Because the value of a school to a conference is the television revenue it can help generate, a grant of rights agreement makes the members essentially worthless to another conference that is looking for new members.
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OK, so if School A leaves conference X to go to conference Y, conference X receives whatever television revenue conference Y will give school A. So why doesn't conference Y just say to school A, "there won't be any television money, but you will be compensated otherwise." Seems like there are many ways to get around a contractual GOR.
 
UCONN to the B1G is going to happen but a traveling partner needs to be found. If your going to set up shop out east you need more than Rutgers (no offense). UConn's Olympic sports will be valuable to the BTN. If your going to penetrate the Boston and NYC markets you need established programs and UConn is a proven winner. It's not always about football to the B1G.
 
Remember it's not always about football to a conference who owns a network that gets 90% of it's advertising revenue from 14 football saturdays.

The Big 10 wanted Nebraska for their stellar non-football programs.

It's also not about money. Rutgers is really good at sports.
 
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chitown76 said:
UCONN to the B1G is going to happen but a traveling partner needs to be found. If your going to set up shop out east you need more than Rutgers (no offense). UConn's Olympic sports will be valuable to the BTN. If your going to penetrate the Boston and NYC markets you need established programs and UConn is a proven winner. It's not always about football to the B1G.
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yeah and even Illinois don't help much in Chicago...need NW and more for Chicago "no offense".So maybe you grab a proven winner in with AAU and olympic sports in the west like Kansas to offset ND's penetration of the midwest markets like Chitown which like NYC and Boston is a pro sports town.
 
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When did Rutgers start leaking the move to the B1G to recruits? I would imagine that a coach let it slip.
 
Huskybite said:
I'm thinking that she's probably Gretchen's (from the other meandering lifeless CR thread) hotter cousin.
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For those fond of Gretchen's avatar, Carla (Cara?), you may want to check into Interview magazine.
 
Stinger92860 said:
When did Rutgers start leaking the move to the B1G to recruits? I would imagine that a coach let it slip.
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I think in the recruiting class of "ten" i first heard some say they were told they might finish in another "conference" or the B1G though everyone knew RU's preference.
 
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Humorous double tap by A&M on Texas:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...or-jabs-at-texas-longhorn-network-not-real-tv

Sharp then took a pointed shot at the Aggies' old rivals from Austin.
"We're hopeful that sometime in the future there will be a bowl game that we're able to play in, you know, if [Texas] gets there," he said. "But the great thing about playing us is that you can get on real TV if you play us.”
 
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/01/business/the-big-tens-bigger-footprint.html?referrer=… I never knew Delany ever spoke about the state of Colorado before until I was forwarded this article.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
I never knew how many NEB/MN/IA Big Ten Alumni now live in the Denver greater area until this info was given to me. I never thought...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
How would Nebraska fans think about the addition of CSU to the Big Ten? You all have more alumni in Denver than Chicago..amazing

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
I'm just asking.. And as JD told UMD President.."it's not the number of butts in seats"...but eyeballs on TVScreen" when reassuring on..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
..the limited UMD football stadium capacity. So the 36000 new FB @ CSU is not an issue. Never thought of CSU as B1G candidate before..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
This guy who is sending me the info is convinced Delany is setting up CSU in Big Ten under new TV contract for 2017. I don't believe it..but

Greg Flugaur @flugempire
· 7h 7 hours ago
...this guy holds a position in a Denver area Alumni Club..and he has stats...and stats...must be part of some PR firm

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
He believes Big Ten is trying to get ASU and Denver Hockey as Affliates starting in 2016-17....and CSU as Full member in 2017.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
He has some great info..and although I'm very doubtful of all of this he did show me that Delany did speak of Colorado being B1G Footprint

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 6h 6 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub It would be difficult to see CSU having enough of CO market..but it's interesting Delany said B1G footprint starts in CO-west

Greg Flugaur @flugempire
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@epark88 I don't think CSU is in Delanys plan but if I'm wrong (if everyone is wrong) if JD can't get a P5 school to join.well.CSU +UCONN?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914 CSU is a bigger school than I thought. This guy also told me and sent me..

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire @TexasRoundball @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914 CSU is bigger than CU I beleive

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914 I didn't know that..had no clue. Land grant just like most (not all) of B1G

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914 CSU new AD did say in interview (according to this guy)adding lacrosse..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914 .adding women's lacrosse to play in new FB stadium. I would like to confirm

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@RedhawkLand @Expansion_Crush @TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @OmegaSupreme914 If CSU is 3rd in Denver can they get to 2 with B1G membership?

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@RedhawkLand @Expansion_Crush @TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @OmegaSupreme914 ...and would 2nd in Denver be enough juice? Maybe..maybe

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@Expansion_Crush @TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @OmegaSupreme914 In conclusion....I guess I will be paying more attention to CSU.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4h 4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @Expansion_Crush @NebGradDubDub @OmegaSupreme914 http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/csu/2015/04/15/csu-ncaa-lacrosse/25820477/… CSU Adding Women's Lacrosse

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 29m 29 minutes ago
@russsprague @CSUAthletics @bigtenconf Some Colorado guy (Big Ten Alumni Club-Denver) gave me some info/stats on CSU being on Delany/radar

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 28m 28 minutes ago
@russsprague @CSUAthletics @bigtenconf I think it's the longest of long shots..but he had some interesting theory, I have to admit
 
If they're good enough for the Big 10, not sure why the Big 12 wouldn't take them first. I think they would be happier playing closer to home in the Big 12.
 
Seaa Blue said:
If they're good enough for the Big 10, not sure why the Big 12 wouldn't take them first. I think they would be happier playing closer to home in the Big 12.
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Because they're not good enough at this point.
 
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If you care about academics and cable subscribers, CSU stands out after UConn among the G5.

B12 doesn't care about academics or cable subscribers. They care about national fanbase for advertising revenue. CSU adds nothing there.

I always thought CSU was an interesting candidate for the B1G, but I didn't think they'd want to compete with the Pac.
 
Seaa Blue said:
If they're good enough for the Big 10, not sure why the Big 12 wouldn't take them first. I think they would be happier playing closer to home in the Big 12.
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Why would anyone join a dying conference over a solid conference like the B1G..heck many here and even in the south and midwest including powerhouse Okla want out!! Big 12 for a G% if no one else wants you...that i understand but outside Texas who cares about the B12? Toxic.
 
pj said:
If you care about academics and cable subscribers, CSU stands out after UConn among the G5.

B12 doesn't care about academics or cable subscribers. They care about national fanbase for advertising revenue. CSU adds nothing there.

I always thought CSU was an interesting candidate for the B1G, but I didn't think they'd want to compete with the Pac.
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They could certainly use a national base...outside of Texahoma and small market Kansas who cares? See what happened to TCU and Baylor this yr.
 
CSU is one of those programs much like UCONN, that I have always kept an eye on. Not because they are a powerhouse add like UNL, or a great market like Rutgers, but instead a good combination of improving metrics. With Colorado doing nothing nationally for 25 years, there is room for a brand like CSU to be developed via membership in a major conference. It could explain why they are gung ho to push through an incredibly expensive stadium build despite being a member of a G5 Conference.
 
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