Non-Key Tweets

[AZHuskiePop]

Cal-Berkeley is not the official flagship of Cal, but everyone still knows it's the flagship.

When you hear central administrators saying all the time that Buffalo is the flagship, it's the flagship.

The headquarters for the the California University system are located on the Berkley campus.
It's called the University of California, without mention of location.
Seems like the flagship to the naked eye.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Cal and UCLA are the two best universities in the Cal system. Cal is the flagship although UCLA could make a case but Cal is the #1 school here in CA.

 

[CAHUSKY]

The headquarters for the the California University system are located on the Berkley campus.
It's called the University of California, without mention of location.
Seems like the flagship to the naked eye.

The headquarters are actually in Oakland. So was CAL when it was originally founded. Its definitely, officially, one of 2 flagships (UCLA is the other) but as the oldest, and most prestigious, most people would consider CAL the flagship of the UC system. Of course, I'm biased as I grew up about 15 minutes from campus and lots of friends and family went there. I wasn't smart enough to get in.

 

[upstater]

The only folks who I have heard call Buffalo the flagship state U of New York are folks from Buffalo's Athletic Department. Academically, Stony Brook could raise a case it is better along with Binghamton; but Binghamton does not have the graduate schools (medicine, law, etc.) that Buffalo and Stony Brook have.

US News National Universities - #88) Binghamton & Stony Brook, #103) Buffalo, #126) Albany

OK, you made me do it.

No way.

You guys really dont have any clue what you're talking about. If you wanted to do this, you'd go by department rankings, college rankings, not USNWR, which is a joke. You'd look at the National Foundation rankings. You'd look at the research. I mean, Buffalo is 4x the size of the schools you mentioned.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Go on being wrong. I've heard the word coming out of the mouths of the people who matter at SUNY Central.

 

[upstater]

The headquarters are actually in Oakland. So was CAL when it was originally founded. Its definitely, officially, one of 2 flagships (UCLA is the other) but as the oldest, and most prestigious, most people would consider CAL the flagship of the UC system. Of course, I'm biased as I grew up about 15 minutes from campus and lots of friends and family went there. I wasn't smart enough to get in.

No, it is not officially a flagship. When others complained about it, they were told to stop calling themselves the flagship. And they said, NO. And no one can do anything about it, because everyone thinks they are the flagship. But it's not official. And I can find you the evidence of the system Presidents saying this point blank a number of times.

But again, it doesn't matter.

 

[upstater]

The headquarters for the the California University system are located on the Berkley campus.
It's called the University of California, without mention of location.
Seems like the flagship to the naked eye.

And the HQ of SUNY is even closer to U Albany than the Cal HQ is to Berkeley.

Berkeley was the 1st. But when they put through that plan in the 50s, SD, UCLA and Irvine were made equal.

 

[woomba]

So I guess SUNY.edu will be updating everyone with this news soon! Looking forward to greeting our new Buffalo masters.

 

[pj]

When they changed the names from SUNY to local names like Buffalo, Stony Book, and Albany, weren't they repudiating the idea of a state flagship?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Flagship_universities_in_the_United_States

 

[whaler11]

I think it's time for another subforum.

Question is: Does SUNY-Buffalo need a subforum? Or is a subforum for tedious discussions as to what the Flagship is in a given state? Maybe we could combine Flagship and Landgrant discussions?

 

[HuskyHawk]

OK, you made me do it.

No way.

You guys really dont have any clue what you're talking about. If you wanted to do this, you'd go by department rankings, college rankings, not USNWR, which is a joke. You'd look at the National Foundation rankings. You'd look at the research. I mean, Buffalo is 4x the size of the schools you mentioned.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Go on being wrong. I've heard the word coming out of the mouths of the people who matter at SUNY Central.

Look, perception is everything. Buffalo is in Buffalo, which is one of the more depressed, terrible places in the entire United States. It's not a school anyone thinks of when they think of "New York". It's pretty clearly not perceived as a flagship. 90% of the country probably thinks its a glorified community college. They are wrong, but it doesn't mean anyone is running out to buy "Buffalo Bulls" sweatshirts.

Cal on the other hand is "Cal". It's the one school in the system that doesn't need it's place name. It's also the only one where the place name is enough to recognize it. "Berkeley" is easily recognized. I"m sure UCLA is almost its equal, just as Arizona State is almost the equal of Arizona. But UCLA is largely second to USC in its own home market. This is about athletics, and Buffalo doesn't rate and isn't on anybody's radar.

 

[pj]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Flagship_universities_in_the_United_States

OK. From this list, state flagships not in a P5 conference:
University of Alaska Fairbanks; [URL='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boise_State_University']Boise State University; University of Connecticut; [/URL]University of Delaware; University of Hawaii at Manoa; University of Houston; [URL='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maine']University of Maine; [URL='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Massachusetts_Amherst']University of Massachusetts Amherst;[/URL][/URL] University of Montana; University of Nevada, Reno;University of New Hampshire;University of New Mexico;University of North Dakota;University of North Texas; University of Rhode Island; [URL='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Vermont']University of Vermont; [URL='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wyoming']University of Wyoming.[/URL][/URL]

I have to say that Texas is cheating, having a long list of flagships including Houston and North Texas. But UConn really does stand out on this list as by far the most sports-serious and strongest remaining candidate for the P5.

 

[Kolumbo]

If North Texas is considered flagship...what's in a name...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...los-uniforms-say-new-york-instead-of-buffalo/

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Granted the source was the ever reliable Wikipedia, but how does anyone confuse Boise State, the University of Houston, or North Texas State with anything resembling a flagship university in their respective states? Foolish, naive, ignorant, just plain wrong, or a combo of options A-D!

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I, for one, really want to see UConn in the B1G basketball lineup. (Then I plan on hanging around and talking smack when the Gophers play.)

OK, our Huskies' ice men are going to kick some gopher tail in next year's game in Minneapolis. Well, that's the goal!

 

[DarthGrumpy]

OK, you made me do it.

No way.

You guys really dont have any clue what you're talking about. If you wanted to do this, you'd go by department rankings, college rankings, not USNWR, which is a joke. You'd look at the National Foundation rankings. You'd look at the research. I mean, Buffalo is 4x the size of the schools you mentioned.

But it doesn't matter anyway. Go on being wrong. I've heard the word coming out of the mouths of the people who matter at SUNY Central.

I agree that US News rankings are flawed; but, they are a heavily watched benchmark. Overall, I simply disagree with you on this as I also know folks who work from SUNY who for the most part refer to each of the 3 primary major SUNY's as the flagship university of a specific regions, i.e. Buffalo is the state flagship of Western NY, Stony Brook for Long Island, etc. whereas Binghamton is the top liberal arts college of SUNY (and often called a public Ivy). This reflects the political nature of NY State, especially in the 50's when the SUNY system was centralized, with 5 major political divides (Long Island, NYC Metro, Capital Regional, Southern Tier, and Western). In retrospect, I bet that NY State wishes it did designate one campus (likely Albany or Binghamton due to location) as a true 'flagship' and funded it as such. Such a school would be a major academic power on the level of Cal, Michigan, Texas, UVA's of the world.

 

[don356]

I can't help but wonder what spin the dude of west va in his basement is going to spin on that obliteration they were handed last night by ky. I actually went to his site this am, but it has gone silent. That may have been the most non competitive college bball game i saw all year. No big 12 or big east teams past the sweet 16 despite all the bids. Shows just how bad those conference ranks are skewed if you have a couple bottome dwellers.

 

[billybud]

I enjoyed watching the Kentucky 7 footer (near) repeatedly bring the ball up court into the half court offense and acting like a skyscraper point guard. Amazing talent.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Ldandy]

That is very, very funny. Juggling user names on the same thread is what serial killers do, I think.

That is why it is sad he was banned. We were robbed of a chance to see him create this kind of magic.

 

[Kolumbo]

They don't horse around in Storrs.

 

[kingdobbs]

Granted the source was the ever reliable Wikipedia, but how does anyone confuse Boise State, the University of Houston, or North Texas State with anything resembling a flagship university in their respective states? Foolish, naive, ignorant, just plain wrong, or a combo of options A-D!

They're flagships of their respective university SYSTEMS, not their entire states.

 

[The Funster]

Perhaps we need an academic forum where interested people can debate the whole "flagship" controversy that rears it's ugly head every month or so...

 

[buddy]

They don't horse around in Storrs.

As Ralph Kramden would say: " A string of poloponies!"

 

[UConn Dan]

Lololol

 

[UConn9604]

Lololol

Is he implying that there would not be shared interest on our part? If so, that tweet is two days late...

 

[Point6]

If Delany wants to add UConn, I would be in favor of considering it (as an alum). I would like to get the PowerPoints earlier in the day and not late on a Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend.

 

[businesslawyer]

If anything would make people stop sharing and discussing non-key tweets, it would be someone not in a straightjacket in an institution asking if UConn would have interest in the Big Ten. And yet, we all know it will have no effect whatsoever.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If anything would make people stop sharing and discussing non-key tweets, it would be someone not in a straightjacket in an institution asking if UConn would have interest in the Big Ten. And yet, we all know it will have no effect whatsoever.

BL, think back about 35 years. It's kind of like when you want to date a girl but don't want her to know you have a thing for her so you act aloof. That's what we're doing with the B1G right now.......

 

[auggie22]

I think we need to be deliberate. This is a thirty year decision. We don't jump at the B1g offer until we have evaluated where the next AAC contract will be.