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Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
The biggest difference between myself and others such as @theDudeofWV when it comes to future expansion/realignment is how we look at past..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...expansion of the SEC & Big Ten. While many do not think the SEC or Big Ten has benefited from their new additions...and do not believe...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
..in the power of the SECN & BTN to mold the future of conferences and their eventual makeup....I have no doubts about the massive success..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...of the SEC additions of Texas A&M & Missouri/Big Ten additions of Rutgers & Maryland. And because of this success of grabbing bigger...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...market share and monetizing the new markets...I have no doubts success of expansion breeds more expansion. And there are no doubts to..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...those who I talk with. To be clear...if you sit with the perception that the SEC & Big Ten did not benefit so much...well...you think...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...expansion will not happen in future. The most important thing is what perception does Texas/OU/UVA/VT/KU have in the last rd of expansion

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
If the Rutgers & UMD additions were not successful the Big Ten would wait a generation. But the additions were a smashing success. Why?

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
I'm going to let the answer play out itself when the public soon gets a look the the increase in REV when budgets of 2013/14 come out. And..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
...when people see projections going into the next 3 years and the differences between conferences. It's going to be staggering. Watch.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 7h 7 hours ago
When a private or public institution or organization does an action which breeds prosperity for the Inst/Org..it does the same action again

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire The only real difference is I think the B1G will target the ACC again. Big 12 schools don't solve their problems.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire The B1G can add more $ to their kitty & have a footprint in the southeast for recruiting by way of the ACC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire They can't get nearly as much $ or the recruiting presence they need by going after the Big 12.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire And lets not forget two important factors. B12 schools were paid $6 million each for signing the GoR & ACC schools paid nothing.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire And Fox is likely to be the primary partner for both the B1G and the Big 12. Fox doesn't want the Big 12 devalued.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I agree with all that...where we disagree is how much Texas & Oklahoma are looking at the exit signs 10+ years down the road...

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire Heck, we don't even know their value 10 years from now....

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I believe Oklahoma & Texas know the Big 12 business will not hold up. As many Big 12 fans scoff at today's SECN payouts.....

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV OU & UT know better....they now know the conference networks and the big markets of SEC/B1G have the ability to grow...

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire Word from the last meetings in Dallas is they expect a huge payday from Fox with new contract.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Why? Big 12 does not carry value to the AD buyers as a whole...small footprint. I love the football...but it's ratings not good

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire Ratings not good on Fox. Fine on ESPN. WVU averaged a 2.6

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Look at the OU/Texas game ratings...small footprint in the conference is slowly eating away at the value of historic game

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Big 12 fans say it's because of bad time slots...and wrong channel. But how do you improve your leverage with FOX?....

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire Fox will grow.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV You can't improve Big 12 leverage by having the Boulder in the road(Bowlsby words) of the LHN(Disney) Big 12 has structural...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV ...issues that will not be overcome unless Oklahoma and Texas go all-in with the conference...much like Ohio St with Big Ten

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I see no evidence of Oklahoma and Texax going all-in....I see the 2 being ok with a small footprint conf with pathway exit 2025

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV ESPN/ABC will continue to get big piece of Big Ten product in the new TV deal...another pressure point on FOX in pushing B1Gexp

ucf #noflyzone ‏@knightbengal 20m20 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire fox has good network penetration but lacks content. Part of it is branding as well
 
ndfan101 ‏@stoplot 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire In all this Big 10, Big 12 talk do you still see ND going full to the ACC? 'm watching tea leaves and notice no change..

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@stoplot Been told not possible until 2017....Also been told ND and NBC have nothing to do with new ACCN. So it looks like my info was wrong

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@stoplot ND and NBC having nothing to do with the ACCN, if true, goes against what I said earlier according to sources.Possible swing n miss

ndfan101 ‏@stoplot 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire I assume so... ND is a strange bird and pretty predictable when it comes to independence... Thanks :)

ME: How about UConn and Baylor with a similar ND-type deal offered to Texas?
 
UCONN13KC said:
I think the "Risk" period is mostly over. Pac 12. B1G. SEC. Those three could stand pat and nothing will change for them. They don't have to outflank each other, they will all get paid. The ACC won't just fold because it's not like those members will just go to the other P conferences. How big can the other conferences get? 64 programs, give or take a few. Perhaps the Big 12 and/or ACC eventually shift but there will be those 64 programs and not a whole lot more. I really don't think it's like a conference needs to "defeat" another conference. The Big East was destroyed, and that's that. Plenty of money to be split among the current P5.
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So all of a sudden, everyone is going to be willing to share resources equally? Doubtful.
 
whaler11 said:
Fluguar started talking about contacts... LOL.
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It was only a matter of time before Flugar jumped the shark.

I'd argue that most the commissioners and league presidents haven't talked much expansion at all since the last go around.

The notion Delany is sitting there crunching B1G hockey numbers for affiliate members is laugh out loud funny.
 
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btstimpy said:
Penn State was a very fine addition that the Big Ten added in the East. I would love to have them in the ACC. The Big East made an error in not inviting them when it had the chance. The rest of what was added, they can have and keep. That's an interesting recent thread about one of them.
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Agree that not inviting Penn State was the biggest mistake that the original Big East made. The second was when they had leverage was allowing Notre Dame in as a partial member. A conference has to be crazy to invite in a member who has no interest and no incentive to help the conference, only itself. Who else but the old Big East would be that crazy...
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Agree that not inviting Penn State was the biggest mistake that the original Big East made. The second was when they had leverage was allowing Notre Dame in as a partial member. A conference has to be crazy to invite in a member who has no interest and no incentive to help the conference, only itself. Who else but the old Big East would be that crazy...
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The five guaranteed ND games per year and the access to the Gator and Capital One Bowl Games that the ND arrangement brings to the ACC helps the conference. Would adding the additional 3 games to get to full membership at 8 be better? Sure. We may or may not get there at some point. It's going to be hard for ND to make the football playoffs without a Conference Championship game win. Perhaps independence is more important than championship access. Time will tell. The rest of ND sports programs help too because it's a quality overall athletics department. I don't want to see the ACC sit in this arrangement for forever, but for now it's fine.

The issue with the Big East was not that Notre Dame was a partial member. They had the same membership as Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, St. John's, Marquette, and DePaul. They were just another one of the Catholic basketball schools in reality. For football, ND is why the Big East had access to the Gator Bowl for a while. So that helped some.

I don't think that the ACC will sit at 15 indefinitely. Hopefully the launch of a network will create some possibilities. It's being worked on. When they announce it is anyone's guess.
 
I still think that the Big 12 will eventually move east. Cincinatti and UConn or some other combo...

Forget the talk about Houston, Tulane....maybe a west-east split with BYU and UConn...but a straight eastern pod of WVU and two other teams makes more sense, I think.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
ndfan101 ‏@stoplot 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire In all this Big 10, Big 12 talk do you still see ND going full to the ACC? 'm watching tea leaves and notice no change..

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@stoplot Been told not possible until 2017....Also been told ND and NBC have nothing to do with new ACCN. So it looks like my info was wrong

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@stoplot ND and NBC having nothing to do with the ACCN, if true, goes against what I said earlier according to sources.Possible swing n miss

ndfan101 ‏@stoplot 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire I assume so... ND is a strange bird and pretty predictable when it comes to independence... Thanks :)

ME: How about UConn and Baylor with a similar ND-type deal offered to Texas?
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Wait. Greg Flugaur admits that all of his "ND independence is doomed" Nostradamus predictions/dire prophecies were a bunch of hot air?

But he doesn't say anything at all about how completely wrong he was (even though he went on about it at length and promised everyone that big news was inevitable) until an ND fans asks him a direct question?

This guy has zero credibility about anything.
 
btstimpy said:
On paper perhaps you're right, but I run into West Virginia fans that complain about Geographical location every time I see them and talk about the Big XII.

The Big East did pull members from everywhere as did the Conference USA. Can it be forced? Sure. Does it have a sense of cohesion? I'm not so sure about that.
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CR cares not about fans nor cohesion. I don't think CR cares about anything other than $$$ TV contracts.
The B1G additions of MD and RU make perfect sense, yet make no sense whatsover.
 
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I keep coming back to the fact that UCONN is doomed. UCONN has been a DI program for a very short period. And I maintain that even though it went to a BCS game, most people acknowledge it went because the system was broken and the Big East stunk that year. UCONN beat Texas Southern, Buffalo, Vandy, WV, Pitt, Syracuse, Cincy, USF. None finished ranked.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Agree that not inviting Penn State was the biggest mistake that the original Big East made. The second was when they had leverage was allowing Notre Dame in as a partial member. A conference has to be crazy to invite in a member who has no interest and no incentive to help the conference, only itself. Who else but the old Big East would be that crazy...
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The 3rd mistake was not inviting Florida State along with Miami when both were independent & looking for conference affiliation. In the Spring of 1991, I picked a Sunday edition of the Washington Post while driving home from Spring Break in Florida with the family. The Sports section had a large column on Miami & Florida State pursuing conference membership. That the Big East took one & not the other set into motion its eventual demise. Miami was an outlier, & it was only a matter of time until it looked to jump ship.
 
True, UConn doesn't have the D-1 history but it's not like we're going up against traditional D-1 behemoths either. Looking outside the P5, the best traditional program is probably BYU. They would bring the history and national following that would help the B12 or PAC. Next, who? Boise? Their string of recent success certainly can't be ignored and if we're talking about football programs only, they'd probably be #2 but even they don't have the long history that we always hear about dooming us. Cincinnati? They really didn't become relevant until after they joined the Big East. Granted, they have strung some OUTSTANDING coaching hires from D'Antonio to Kelly to Jones to Tuberville. They've demonstrated that they know football and will dedicate the appropriate efforts to stay competitive moreso than UConn (thanks again Jeff!). UCF? They are embedded in a rich recruiting ground but other than beating Baylor a few years ago, can anyone point to a long successful D-1 history that completely separates itself from UConn (or anyone else)? Ditto for USF, minus the beating Baylor part (although they have had some quality OOC regular season wins in the past). SMU's history is smeared with scandal. Houston? Decent but meh (really only an option for the B12). SDSU has been mediocre/average after Marshall Faulk. Nevada and Kaepernick but meh.

So yeah, UConn doesn't have the long D-1 history that others have had (even if that long D1 history was a history of losing like Cable Boxes U). But it's not like we're going head to head with any traditional football powers either. Yes, each program has their own attributes that are nice and most of them are located in better recruiting areas than UConn. But our CR profile is more than just football. We're the complete package once football proves to be competitive once again. And if a P5 conference is evaluating which schools would bring the most $$ to its conference, it's a tough sell to convince me that UConn isn't a firm #1 (or, at very worst, #2) on the G5 value list.
 
FSU was rejected by the SEC and ACC for some years and continued to go Independent because they had to....now I, as an older fan, liked being Indy, but folks wiser than I am recognized that it would eventually be necessary to be in a conference.
 
can't hurt i suppose.
http://college.usatoday.com/2015/02/18/top-10-division-i-schools-for-mens-soccer/
9. UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT: STORRS, CT.
In addition to the main campus at Storrs, UConn is spread across seven other campuses in the state, including the Jackson laboratory. The $1.1 billion genomic medicine facility partners with the UConn Health Center for biomedical research. Men’s soccer coach Ray Reid is one of the most accomplished in the nation, recording over 400 wins in 26 seasons with a winning percentage of .764. The Huskies have reached the NCAA tournament 16 of the last 17 seasons.
 
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Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
You can't blame BYU supporters of getting fired up after hearing what BYU AD Holmoe said today"intentions of BYU in P5 near term"paraphrase

Transic_nyc ‏@Transic_nyc · 2h2 hours ago
@flugempire But how are they going to force their way into the P5?

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
@Transic_nyc They can't. But AD comes out in public and makes statement of intentions for NEAR TERM. That means BYY had been talking to...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
@Transic_nyc ...someone at least. Can't blame BYU fans for getting excited

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
At least BYU fans know that there AD has been working on it...talking with people.AD doesn't say something like that thin air

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
I'm not saying BYU will be successful in their attempt to get into P5...but AD is working at it...there AT LEAST benn communication
 
I take this one of two ways:

1. Been communication. Q: Can we...? A: No. (That's communication.)

or

2. Two white shirts and slacks showed up at Delany's house and he got new religion, a free Book of Mormon, and a full conference slate. BYU and UConn to B1G it is.
 
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Hockey stick vs. hockey schtick is hardly fair...

And if Boston is Beantown, why is Chicago the Windy City? So much stuff to wonder about...
 
TruDomGopher said:
Hockey stick vs. hockey schtick is hardly fair... And if Boston is Beantown, why is Chicago the Windy City? So much stuff to wonder about...
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Especially since, Boston is actually windier. Trivia.
 
Stinger92860 said:
We would jump in a heartbeat. It would be step one to full membership. It gives us a chance to show fan support, albeit a smaller sample.
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No we wouldn't. No chance. Hockey East is the better league, closer and is already doing wonders for the program. We'd take the step down to the B1G for a full invite, but no chance for hockey only.
 
HuskyHawk said:
No we wouldn't. No chance. Hockey East is the better league, closer and is already doing wonders for the program. We'd take the step down to the B1G for a full invite, but no chance for hockey only.
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If joining the B1G in hockey was a step toward full membership, we'd do it. But if they invited us for hockey, why not for basketball as well? And then they might as well add for all sports, as the AAC might be reluctant to give us a football only membership.
 
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