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[URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda']Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · [/URL]8h 8 hours ago
Bet your life on two big changes for next year. Big 12 will have 12 teams and the CFB playoff committee is done with weekly rankings.

Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 5h 5 hours ago
Welcome to the Big 12 UCF and Cincinnati!

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Max Olson @max_olson · 5h 5 hours ago
Baylor AD Ian McCaw said last night the discussion on Big 12 conference title game should resume Monday. No doubt now.

Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 5h 5 hours ago
Jeff Long, Chairman of cfb playoff committee, made it obvious that the lack of a Big 12 conference championship game hurt the Big 12.

Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 5h 5 hours ago
We all knew the lack of a Big 12 title game was a problem. You'd think the Big 12 ADs would be smarter than the fans, they're not.

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Brian Davis @BDavisAAS · 5h 5 hours ago
Also, I've been told before that Big 12 would look east, not west, for expansion. Maybe find a travel partner for West Virginia.

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Tom Fornelli @TomFornelli · 5h 5 hours ago
BREAKING: Big 12 announces plans to expand to 12 teams.

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Tim Brando @TimBrando · 5h 5 hours ago
I certainly understand the frustration felt at TCU & Baylor. However, the Co-Champ circumstances did them in. The Committee got it right!

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Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN · 5h 5 hours ago
Bob Bowlsby: "It’s clear we were penalized for not having postseason game. It would have been nice to been told that beforehand"
 
If Warde Manuel and President Herbst both aren't working the phones 24/7 with every single B12 President and Commissioner Bowlsby, they should resign immediately. This may be the only P5 door opening in the next 5-10 years.
 
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
The SEC/Big 10/Pac12 will not allow Big 12 to play a conference championship game with only 10 teams. No incentive

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
If I was the Big 12 I would expand and take UCF and thier big alumni and market. 12 school is completly up in the air IMO

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
I understand the schools of the Big 12 will take a hit$.....but the best way to turn a loss into long term gain-plant flag in Orlando

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
Big 12 should tell FOX....if you want in on Florida its time to strike and gives a little lift of $ to cushion the impact....
 
Why not UCF and us? They need to get to 12 teams and we help them do that. If that's the football requirement the bar is low. Do they really need good football teams? We bring more conference value than any other school in the ACC. Plus we will gladly take less than full share and will play home games at MetLife, MSG and Barclays.
 
Landthieves ‏@LandThieves · 3h3 hours ago
Burn it down or build it up Big 12. Sitting around counting your cash while TCU gets screwed over isn't a good look

Ben Keefe ‏@Benjamin_Keefe · 55m55 minutes ago
Big 12 officials and AD's will meet tomorrow in NYC http://sports.yahoo.com/news/big-12...college-football-playoff-212316590-ncaaf.html …

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 37m37 minutes ago
@Benjamin_Keefe @Manny_Insanity
Previously scheduled meeting.

Ben Keefe ‏@Benjamin_Keefe · 36m36 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @Manny_Insanity
I'm sure there will be a few more items to discuss in new business

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @Benjamin_Keefe @Manny_Insanity
this is easy. Expand lose $5 million per year. P5 legislation pending which drops 12 team requirement.

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @Epfourteen @Benjamin_Keefe @Manny_Insanity
You still don't get it.


Eric Pennekamp ‏@Epfourteen · 8m8 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @Benjamin_Keefe @Manny_Insanity
I do. U are saying b12 teams sacrifice long term stability for the upfront extra $5mil per year

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV · 31m 31 minutes ago
Look. Im tired of arguing. I hope my highly placed & reliable sources are wrong. I would be happy.
 
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Stinger92860 said:
Why not UCF and us? They need to get to 12 teams and we help them do that. If that's the football requirement the bar is low. Do they really need good football teams? We bring more conference value than any other school in the ACC. Plus we will gladly take less than full share and will play home games at MetLife, MSG and Barclays.
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No. Any two teams would have been enough. If UConn and Eastern Michigan were already in the Big XII TCU could have played Baylor last night in a conference championship game. There is a good chance that the winner of that game would have gotten the playoff nod over Ohio St.
 
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
 
businesslawyer said:
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
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The pitch should already have been made. If we haven't learned to be proactive by now J really question what Warde does with his time. Every P5 should know our pitch inside and out by now.
 
businesslawyer said:
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
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Agree 1000%.
 
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businesslawyer said:
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
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I feel the same way. Not necessarily that we'd go to the Big 12 but if there's enough rumblings it will force the B1G or ACC's hand maybe?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Make any and every concession to the Big12.

Once were in, were in.
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No. You make temporary concessions but not permanent ones. UConn will be in a major conference sooner or later. You don't permanently impair yourself, and no conference that asked a university to do that would be a worthwhile partner.
 
You take the first life raft you get. You know its bad when the best bowl in the American Conference pits you against ACC #5 and when P5 conferences bowl payouts (each bowl...look it up...the Liberty bowl pays $2.4 mil per team) exceed your conference revenue payout for the year. WVU took the right approach and as much as they complain about being on an island, its 1000x better than being in the AAC(k).
 
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Dooley said:
If Warde Manuel and President Herbst both aren't working the phones 24/7 with every single B12 President and Commissioner Bowlsby, they should resign immediately. This may be the only P5 door opening in the next 5-10 years.
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While I 100% agree - B12 has always been an astronomical longshot. Yet some here will still blame SH and WM if it doesn't come to pass.
 
This is the non-key tweets page, right?

Friggin ESPN better subsidize UConn's entry into the B1G by promising them UConn keeps the $20m a year per team even. Throw in an extra $500 a year for adding UConn.
 
I always follow UConn (Mostly basketball). I have lots of family in CT.

And I'd be happy if OSU helped UConn make their way into a Power 5.

The Big 12 just feels like a stretch though. Such a huge geographic gap. So I don't know about this option.

BUT watch this closely. When expansion talks start, various teams can get annoyed and sometimes it creates a domino effect with unexpected consequences.

I have my eye on Kansas. If for some reason Kansas gets annoyed or wants to look at other options, I'm sure the BIG would be willing to add them. We have been interested and we already have Nebraska-bridging that geographic gap. But Kansas is going to need a partner...

If there is any smoke in this direction, UConn might want to make a phone call.
 
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businesslawyer said:
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
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Not bad BL. I suggest that you go rogue on this. Hop a plane, make the argument and close the deal. Use the flight time to Google the presentation Herbst made to the faculty on AAU as it has a lot of good academic info. You know the championship and successes by heart. Download a couple videos of the crowd cheering from the Mich. St and Iowa St crowds at MSG and cobble all of that into a presentation.

Your whole life has been building to this moment. Remember that it is better to ask for forgiveness than permission. You got this. Carpe diem, etc. Now, God bless and go out there and get us a P5 conference.
 
businesslawyer said:
We bring very little to the Big XII. But sometimes, the value of an acquisition is in denying it to your competitor. UConn to the XII -- joining WVU, which has fans in metro DC -- takes the NOrtheast, which the ACC and Big Ten are fighting over, denies either of them a clear victory and, with no conference taking over (remembering that no dominant football conference keeps the Big EAst, and to a lesser degree the A Ten relevant in hoops), gets the XII's toes in the water. Texas and Oklahoma can then play the occasional football game in Fedex or Metlife, and hoops in the Verizon and Barclays.

That is what the pitch ought to be. And if the XII listens, it forces the Big Ten and ACC to think about being proactive.
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I hope we learned the lesson last time about making a case for yourself. It's very clear now that you're either in the club or out.
 
MH3 @MH3 · 56m 56 minutes ago
It's happening. I hate to say I told you so but #IToldYouSo

MH3 @MH3 · 58m 58 minutes ago
BYU and Cincy

MH3 @MH3 · 42m 42 minutes ago
At least we will get to renegotiate our tv contract. So long playing UT and OK yearly-it was fun while it lasted.

MH3 @MH3 · 19m 19 minutes ago
Also hearing Airforce, UCF, an Memphis are going to be on the short list of schools that will be seriously considered.

MH3 @MH3 · 17m 17 minutes ago
LSU and Arkansas= pipe dream. But have had 3 sources now tell me they are the top 2 targets the B12 will pitch to. #???

MH3 @MH3 · 7m 7 minutes ago
BYU talks earlier this year and UC talks from before make them my gut feeling after the dust settles

MH3 @MH3 · 4m 4 minutes ago
2 Big12 institutions already calling for Bowlsby's head.

MH3 @MH3 · 44s 44 seconds ago
Getting a lot of messages about Memphis right now: offering to pay big $$$ to come in and not take $1 of TV money for 5 years.
 
jostar1 said:
MH3 @MH3 · 56m 56 minutes ago
It's happening. I hate to say I told you so but #IToldYouSo

MH3 @MH3 · 58m 58 minutes ago
BYU and Cincy

MH3 @MH3 · 42m 42 minutes ago
At least we will get to renegotiate our tv contract. So long playing UT and OK yearly-it was fun while it lasted.

MH3 @MH3 · 19m 19 minutes ago
Also hearing Airforce, UCF, an Memphis are going to be on the short list of schools that will be seriously considered.

MH3 @MH3 · 17m 17 minutes ago
LSU and Arkansas= pipe dream. But have had 3 sources now tell me they are the top 2 targets the B12 will pitch to. #???

MH3 @MH3 · 7m 7 minutes ago
BYU talks earlier this year and UC talks from before make them my gut feeling after the dust settles

MH3 @MH3 · 4m 4 minutes ago
2 Big12 institutions already calling for Bowlsby's head.

MH3 @MH3 · 44s 44 seconds ago
Getting a lot of messages about Memphis right now: offering to pay big $$$ to come in and not take $1 of TV money for 5 years.
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By UCF does he mean UConn Football?
 
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach Not really. A conf gets an extra $6 million if it has a team in the playoffs. That's $600k for each school in the Big 12.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach The base for the B12 TV contract is $250m / 10 that's $25M. Divided by 12 it's $20.8m.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach So adding 2 for a CCG sacrifices $4.2m for an improved shot at $600k.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach I'm aware the team in the playoffs get an extra $2m for expenses & the boast factor is priceless but (cont)

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach as long as the Big 12 can hold a CCG with 10 why would they jump the gun & expand at the cost of revenue?

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach Also why be reactionary? AAC schools will be available next year & the year after.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach its part of autonomy. B12, ACC & SEC favor the legislation.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach It's actually ACC legislation that the B12 & SEC support.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach Swofford talked about it Friday night: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ahead-conference-championships-27399227…

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach The only conf that benefits from B12 expansion is the B1G. Neither the SEC or ACC want that.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 1h 1 hour ago
@theatheistteach Read it. There are logical reasons. The SEC wants to go to pods. The ACC is afraid of FSU losing the CCG to the coastal.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 59m 59 minutes ago
@LandThieves The B12 lost $300k per team by being shut out. They'll lose $5m per year per school if they expand.
 
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