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When FSU found out that the ESPN contract was not guaranteed past 2026....they found an opening.

The ACC likes to say that they have programs rights until 2036...But...the GOR plainly says that they only are assigned such rights as necessary to fulfill the requirements of the ACC contract.

FSU wants to pay the Exit fee and negotiate the remaining two years of the guaranteed contract.

By the By...the ACC only receives Exit fee monies if FSU leaves...

Any "rights" monies go to ESPN who has leased those rights...it is an odd situation...ESPN did not sign the GOR and no school signed a contract with ESPN. This is all about ESPN yet ESPN is silent standing in the corner like a mobster's goon at a "sit down" with a rival.
 
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When FSU found out that the ESPN contract was not guaranteed past 2026....they found an opening.

The ACC likes to say that they have programs rights until 2036...But...the GOR plainly says that they only are assigned such rights as necessary to fulfill the requirements of the ACC contract.

FSU wants to pay the Exit fee and negotiate the remaining two years of the guaranteed contract.

By the By...the ACC only receives Exit fee monies if FSU leaves...

Any "rights" monies go to ESPN who has leased those rights...it is an odd situation...ESPN did not sign the GOR and no school signed a contract with ESPN. This is all about ESPN yet ESPN is silent standing in the corner like a mobster's goon at a "sit down" with a rival.
If this were true FSU would already be long gone. This is farcical.
 
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That is what FSU believes....not what the ACC believes....thus the suit...

As the FSU BOT Chair has said...if it was only $150 million, we would have sent our letter giving notice.

This is all about negotiating an amount...The ACC must fight with extreme prejudice for it is an existential battle for their survival.
 
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Here's the deal...right now..FSU only has legal fees invested...has not left the conference nor put in an official notice.

A few million in legal fees...worth it to FSU to test the water.
 
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L Grant of Rights. Each of the Member Institutions hereby (a) irrevocably and exclusively grants to the Conference during the Term (as defined below) all rights (the "Rights") necessary for the Conference to perform the contractual obligations of the Conference expressly set forth in the ESPN Agreement, regardless of whether such Member Institution remains a member of the Conference during the entirety of the Term and (b) agrees to satisfy and perform all contractual obligations of a Member Institution during the Term that-are expressly set forth in the ESPN Agreement.

The real controlling agreement is the ESPN Agreement...which is labelled Top Secret and is at the level of "Unobtainium"..

The ACC has petitioned the judge to seal this document if it becomes discovery and the judge has given ESPN a deadline to comment.
 
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I do get the feel that FSU has burned their ships on the beach...

LOL...the ACC officiating in the coming seasons may not be subtle.
 
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It has been that for a few decades...in the last 30 years, only FSU and Clemson (and Miami in 2001) have been the only not now Big Ten or SEC teams to win a NC.
 

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Because it's redundant?
 
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Notre Dame is on the clock. Under the new agreement only conference teams can get a bye week in the playoffs and I believe that the wording suggests that conferences will get guaranteed multiple teams under certain stipulations.

The SEC and B1G will most likely get multiple bids for 12 slots so they can get more money per team in the playoffs.

Guessing 3 to 4 teams each for the power 2, which only leaves a few more conference spots and the Norte Dame to pick up scraps.

ND to the B1G is my guess.
 
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Notre Dame is on the clock. Under the new agreement only conference teams can get a bye week in the playoffs and I believe that the wording suggests that conferences will get guaranteed multiple teams under certain stipulations.

The SEC and B1G will most likely get multiple bids for 12 slots so they can get more money per team in the playoffs.

Guessing 3 to 4 teams each for the power 2, which only leaves a few more conference spots and the Norte Dame to pick up scraps.

ND to the B1G is my guess.
ND negotiated this agreement, they are fine being an at large.
 
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Notre Dame doesn't have to risk playing a highly ranked team in a conference championship game which could knock them out of the playoffs. Now, they get to end their season as always on the West Coast and then can recruit for several weeks while prepping to host a playoff game in their stadium. There's a good chance that a southern team will have to travel to Notre Dame Stadium in late December to play in a playoff game. Then there's the recruiting advantages of hosting a playoff game in your stadium. At seven at-large bids it should work in their favor.
 
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Notre Dame doesn't have to risk playing a highly ranked team in a conference championship game which could knock them out of the playoffs. Now, they get to end their season as always on the West Coast and then can recruit for several weeks while prepping to host a playoff game in their stadium. There's a good chance that a southern team will have to travel to Notre Dame Stadium in late December to play in a playoff game. Then there's the recruiting advantages of hosting a playoff game in your stadium. At seven at-large bids it should work in their favor.

That's not the point.

The point is, is that the B1G and SEC are trying to get as many of their conference teams to get the remaining spots in the CFP. Those spots are worth millions more to each conference with whatever spots left to the other conference and Notre Dame.

None of this is good for Notre Dame. None of it.
 

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Notre Dame is on the clock. Under the new agreement only conference teams can get a bye week in the playoffs and I believe that the wording suggests that conferences will get guaranteed multiple teams under certain stipulations.

The SEC and B1G will most likely get multiple bids for 12 slots so they can get more money per team in the playoffs.

Guessing 3 to 4 teams each for the power 2, which only leaves a few more conference spots and the Norte Dame to pick up scraps.

ND to the B1G is my guess.

Do you have a link for the bolded statement you made?
 
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Do you have a link for the bolded statement you made?

It's not yet final, but both conference are working hard to make sure going forward they will get more teams in. For the next two playoffs, everything is set, but there's still negotiations going on for 2026 and beyond.

It's all open ended right now.

It also would mean that if UConn wants to continue playing D1 football it has to join a program as well. Independent football status is going away.


 
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It's not yet final, but both conference are working hard to make sure going forward they will get more teams in. For the next two playoffs, everything is set, but there's still negotiations going on for 2026 and beyond.

It's all open ended right now.

It also would mean that if UConn wants to continue playing D1 football it has to join a program as well. Independent football status is going away.



Not sure how the bowl lower bowl games will impact Independents.
 
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Not sure how the bowl lower bowl games will impact Independents.

Considering the only two true independents left hardly ever get bowl eligible I doubt they are putting any thought into it.
 
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How is independent status going away?

I don't think it will, but I think it's becoming harder to remain independent.

It seems as though conference affiliation even at the bottom end will lead to more money
 

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