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That’s too far back.

Even still, what’s to stop the B1G and ACC from poaching the very same schools and Penn State. The Big East was always a sitting duck.

The old Big East was considered very too heavy. Almost like it just gave Miami a conference to play in with a bunch of nobodies.

The New Big East was considered sometimes unfairly to be not good enough to be BCS.

And behind the scenes the entire membership was actively working on leaving to a more stable conference.
If the Big East had gotten Penn State who's to say we wouldn't have been the poacher instead of the poachee. As Tranghese told Gavitt, the Big East would rue the day they didn't admit Penn State.
 

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If the Big East had gotten Penn State who's to say we wouldn't have been the poacher instead of the poachee. As Tranghese told Gavitt, the Big East would rue the day they didn't admit Penn State.

Literally everyone. That’s who.
 
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The Pac 12 ....too late. Colorado driving a lot of the rating.

SEC evidently didn't have headroom to grow ratings...
 
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If the Big East had gotten Penn State who's to say we wouldn't have been the poacher instead of the poachee. As Tranghese told Gavitt, the Big East would rue the day they didn't admit Penn State.
Right at that moment the football schools should have broken away. Had that happened they would have been the poachERS. But who knew what was coming?
 
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Yes.
Truth be told, a Penn State Big East would have been the hunter, not the prey.

The PAC 12 didn’t even make it. You think a a top heavy Big East with one more big school like Penn State would be the hunter with a non proactive schmuck like Tranghese was going to be the hunter? Sure ok.
 
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The PAC 12 didn’t even make it. You think a a top heavy Big East with one more big school like Penn State would be the hunter with a non proactive schmuck like Tranghese was going to be the hunter? Sure ok.
You probably don't recall how vastly different the football landscape was during the Gavitt Big East era.
 
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The PAC 12 didn’t even make it. You think a a top heavy Big East with one more big school like Penn State would be the hunter with a non proactive schmuck like Tranghese was going to be the hunter? Sure ok.
Additionally you fail to realize that quote comes from the era of Dave Gavitt being the Big East commissioner. Tranghese was an assistant.
 
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You probably don't recall how vastly different the football landscape was during the Gavitt Big East era.

I love your little journey through alternative history but sorry. Your argument holds no water.

Big East was always a parts shop.
 
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The PAC 12 didn’t even make it. You think a a top heavy Big East with one more big school like Penn State would be the hunter with a non proactive schmuck like Tranghese was going to be the hunter? Sure ok.
No football school is gonna stay in a conference of basketball only schools. That is true of UConn too medium and long term.
 
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I love your little journey through alternative history but sorry. Your argument holds no water.

Big East was always a parts shop.
It's all relative. The Big East most certainly could have been a poacher. For a while longer anyway. At the end of the day there are 2 conference destinations. Everyone else is a stepping stone.
 
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It's all relative. The Big East most certainly could have been a poacher. For a while longer anyway. At the end of the day there are 2 conference destinations. Everyone else is a stepping stone.

Tranghese never had the proactive vision to do that.

You guys might as well be wondering what would happen if Lincoln wasn’t shot.
 
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Tranghese never had the proactive vision to do that.

You guys might as well be wondering what would happen if Lincoln wasn’t shot.
what about Gavitt? The Penn State thing happened under his watch.
 
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If the Big East had gotten Penn State who's to say we wouldn't have been the poacher instead of the poachee. As Tranghese told Gavitt, the Big East would rue the day they didn't admit Penn State.

BY’d who hate the AAC are in essence blaming the victim .
The American is a direct result of mistakes made by a once power football conference called the Big East a co-founder of the BCS concept . The origin of power conferences
The real villain in the saga
were the folks in the Big East who were
handed a goose that lays golden eggs and killed because that wanted to have a one night Banquet .
The Big East could easily be a top 3 all - sport Conference In the country .
Reviewing the football landscape in 1979 -80-81,reveals nothing but opportunity missed .
Gavitt‘s idea of forming a conference from Eastern Independent schools who had been unimportant would kick start those schools into national prominence. The successful model and the buzz it created wasn’t missed by football schools .
Eastern Football schools were all independent however schools like Pitt and PSU were national powers in the early 1980’s .
A Conference of PSU , Pitt, WVA, Syracuse , BCU , *Navy, *Army, Temple , Rutgers and that’s when UConn should have made the plunge then would have created a pretty good buzz.
Indy add opportunities were all over the place plus a scheduling deal with ND was also possible .
That was the first miss
When they finally got around to football 20 years later they made two excellent adds Miami ( the king of the 90’s) and rising power VT but refused to increase beyond 8 the mistake that ultimately was their undoing . Being BCS and a top dog They were in position to raid the Metro a non BCS however home
to FSU , plus schools like Louisville , Cincinnati . Just adding FSU and it’s over for the ACC at the time 9 team middling football conference with 4 teams in one state . Even Clemson was no super power at the time .
The Big East could have picked of GT , Maryland , Va , Clemson , but at that point a merger with the Big East calling the shots is more probable . But not with 4 Carolina teams .
Even after those failures the final straw was rejecting the ESPN offer
A Football conference that covers 1/3 of the countries population
All Spots
Penn State
FSU
Clemson
Pittsburgh
West Va
Virginia
Miami
GT
Rutgers
Football only
Army/Navy
All sports except Football
Villanova
Georgetown
St Johns
Providence
Seton Hall
ND + football affiliate

The second best football conference the best BB conference in the country
With talk of the Big 12 taking BB to market
How Much is this lineup worth ?

UConn
UNC
Duke
Villanova
Syracuse
Miami
Georgetown
Providence
UVA
St Johns
ND
FSU
Pittsburgh
Clemson
Rutgers

or the tourney in MSG
 
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The BE tournament vs other conference tournaments...

The MSG is iconic and packed....but on TV, the A-10 has been outdrawing the BE according to this....the numbers in this data/article are puzzling. (Note...this is a Marquette based article).

 

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