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There’s a risk to the football powers that excluding powerful, private schools like Vanderbilt and Duke (plus, university Presidents do like to rub elbows with them and football coaches may want them for ‘easy’ wins should there be no room for lower-level non-conference games in the future) and large state universities that taxpayers (and politicians) have invested in for generation is that enough folks maybe get upset to pull Congress into it.
 
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ASU’s business schools is considered solid, especially after merging with Thunderbird a few years back.

Agree on the scenery as it’s like Santa Monica without the ocean during the school year. In fact, I’m visiting a friend in Scottsdale in a few weeks (fingers crossed it’s not 115 F) and may have to take a stroll through campus while she’s working.
Don’t forget to wear your UConn national championship shirt
 
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At least Kansas has a national program in basketball, they have fans everywhere. Can't say the same for anyone else in the Big 12 except for maybe BYU with the Mormons.
The strong a school is academically and perceptually, the higher chance that’s its graduates will spread around the country to seek jobs, settle down, and plant that school’s flag there. Just look at the B1G with NYC, DC, and Atlanta. ND (and Stanford) nationally, etc. Graduates from lower-level schools are likely to stay local. In the expanded XII, that schools with a national footprint are BYU, Kansas and Colorado (may not be good at many sports, but a lot of people want to go to Boulder for college, including my cousin from Amity). ASU is an outlier due to its recruiting pool from SoCal. That’s it. If BY doesn’t want XII to get raised in 10 years, he needs a lager footprint. UConn would give him that.
 
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There’s a risk to the football powers that excluding powerful, private schools like Vanderbilt and Duke (plus, university Presidents do like to rub elbows with them and football coaches may want them for ‘easy’ wins should there be no room for lower-level non-conference games in the future) and large state universities that taxpayers (and politicians) have invested in for generation is that enough folks maybe get upset to pull Congress into it.
But if the vast majority of states are represented, it would seem not much would happen.

I mean, who has a complaint?

Massachusetts? Connecticut? New York? Maybe California? Anyone else? Nevada? I can't think of any other states who either have schools outside or else care enough to do something. And don't say Wyoming or New Mexico.
 
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But if the vast majority of states are represented, it would seem not much would happen.

I mean, who has a complaint?

Massachusetts? Connecticut? New York? Maybe California? Anyone else? Nevada? I can't think of any other states who either have schools outside or else care enough to do something. And don't say Wyoming or New Mexico.
We have one senator that thinks we belong in the Big East and another with an infamous lawsuit. Don’t hold your breath for either of them to be helpful.
 
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One of Utah's senators sued just like ours. That's how they got into the Pac 12 in the first place so it can work.
 
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One of Utah's senators sued just like ours. That's how they got into the Pac 12 in the first place so it can work.

Same for Virginia Tech going from the old Big E to the ACC years back...
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Huskie fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Husky fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.
I don’t think UConn football fans have any delusions about the true state of the program or the national perception. But it seems it’s only when UConn enters the discussion that P5 viability becomes solely about football performance.

UConn has a large market, it’s a good school, it’s a great athletic program overall and has the drive, facilities, and personnel to improve in areas where we don’t excel.

It’s a blatant double standard.
 
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I mean the Big 12 just added Arizona "for basketball" when we've won 5 men's and 10 women's titles since Arizona won its last. it would be great if people making these decisions were honest and stopped lying because no one looking at the numbers thinks Arizona is a better basketball add than UConn.
 
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Football has been the driver for 20 years..The ACC was caught unaware of the changes until the contravt went to 75% football...where once BB paid more.
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Husky fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.
UConn is every bit as good as 80% of the fraud programs currently in the so called P5
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Husky fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.
Pat Forde is a UConn hating clown from wayback. This article was posted on here back in May when it first came out but for the folks who haven’t had the chance to read his whole thoughts of what UConn should do - here it is:

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2023/05/16/uconn-football-glory-basketball-big-12-realignment
 

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Football has been the driver for 20 years..The ACC was caught unaware of the changes until the contravt went to 75% football...where once BB paid more.
Honest question: how can you type those words after the Big12 added Arizona, ASU and Colorado? They’ve had every advantage for the last 30 years and can’t do jack on the football field.
 
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Football has been the driver for 20 years..The ACC was caught unaware of the changes until the contravt went to 75% football...where once BB paid more.
The problem with the ACC is that they grabbed the wrong programs. BC and Syracuse are boot licker football programs and athletic departments general. They bring nothing to the table. The ACC is basically Clemson in football. In basketball you have the Carolina schools which are good.
 
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Football has been the driver for 20 years..The ACC was caught unaware of the changes until the contravt went to 75% football...where once BB paid more.
I’d be careful. It’s possible the big 10 views your program the way you view ours. Football is an old boys club. Many hate on UConn basketball out of pure envy and jealousy. Some, who have far less titles than we do, refer to themselves as blue bloods yet refuse to acknowledge UConn as such. My guess is the thought of UConn becoming a football player is something they don’t want to consider. After all, you give us one full cycle w the tv revenue your school is getting and most on here would tell you UConn would be perennially ranked.
 
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Honest question: how can you type those words after the Big12 added Arizona, ASU and Colorado? They’ve had every advantage for the last 30 years and can’t do jack on the football field.

How much are they paying Zaga, Nova, UConn ? Great BB...
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Husky fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.
Yes. But significant achievements considering those were our first ten years at FBS level.

Plus the number of players sent to the NFL
 
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Arizona, ASU, Utah..are brands...Arizona has won a Fiesta in the way back...had a 12 win season, Utah has had two undefeated seasons and multiple seasons of 10 or more wins.

UConn is a brand...but may be labelled as a basketball school.
 
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Arizona, ASU, Utah..are brands...Arizona has won a Fiesta in the way back...had a 12 win season, Utah has had two undefeated seasons and multiple seasons of 10 or more wins.

UConn is a brand...but may be labelled as a basketball school.
Truth is, going forward the big 12 and acc are battling each other for survival. Neither will be able to light a candle to the sec and big 10. With that in mind, UConn offered the Big 12 far more than the other three schools. Those schools provided a key to the past, UConn is the future. UConn offered a differential market, basketball royalty, Olympic sport excellence, and a football program that would undoubtedly grow. When UConn is competitive, the fanbase travels. When UConn is competitive, eyeballs from Boston to NYC turn on the tv. I believe Yormark recognized this. The actual voters however were still caught up with 20 years ago not 20 years from now. I can’t even tell you the last time I watched Utah and ASU in anything or Arizona in football. 75% of the northeast probabky can say the same. That won’t change. Good luck.
 

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How much are they paying Zaga, Nova, UConn ? Great BB...
Billy, you generally seem to be a bright, experienced guy. I imagine you're probably a respectful guy. Yet here you are at a tough time for a fanbase that has welcomed you on this board for years basically telling us our sports programs are worthless.

I'm not saying you need to drink the UConn Kool Aid, but how about a little respect and perhaps empathy for the fanbase that is engaged enough to provide you with a forum to discuss conference realignment.

This isn't the time to tell your hosts they are worthless.
 
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This will be unpopular, but...

There may be a disconnect with how Husky fans view the program and how others view it.

No one disputes the basketball creds of UConn, but football may not be perceived as Huskies fans see it..

Pat Forde's commentary may paint how many see UConn's football.

Lightning in a bottle? That would be an exaggeration. More accurate, perhaps, to say that Connecticut football plugged into a 120-watt bulb from 2007 to ’10. Just enough to illuminate a false beacon of hope that still faintly glows today.

The Huskies went 33–19 in that stretch, tying for the Big East championship twice and finishing fifth in the league twice. They did not win more than nine games in any season and did not win a postseason game more prestigious than the PapaJohns.com Bowl. The signature moments were beating a 2009 Notre Dame team that would fire Charlie Weis nine days later, and sliding into the Fiesta Bowl in ’10 at 8–4, having won a three-way tie for the Big East despite being outgained for the season. UConn lost that Fiesta Bowl 48–20 to Oklahoma, and coach Randy Edsall never even boarded the team flight home—he left for the Maryland job instead.


Yornark talked about betting on basketball value in the future. I am assuming that there is a lot of network input on new conference adds. The bean counters may have not wanted to put their chips on that number.

People make way way way too much about football and how hard it is to be a P5.

It's just nonsense.

And we know this because the vast majority of P5 football teams are mediocre to bad. UConn will never be a Miami or even a Wisconsin or a TCU. And that's alright.

UConn produced more than its share of NFL talent and it could easily do what Indiana and Minnesota and Iowa St etc. etc. do. We've played many of these teams in the past. For the most part, there are only 3 or 4 teams in each conference that operate at a very high level and everyone else just gets by.
 

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