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nelsonmuntz said:
There are probably a few hundred people that have some insight into what is happening in this round of realignment. The idea that one of them is leaking this information to a friend with a Twitter account is not that far fetched. All these reporters are just mouthpieces for their benefactors' agendas. Whoever Flugs source is also has an agenda, and is using Flugs to broadcast it.

2 things that are interesting is that Flugs uses quotations and defines his anonymous source "BTM". Those are things a journalist would do. Most "insiders" meld their own ideas with what they have been told in their writing.

The Dude is different. He has no sources or insight on anything.
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Flug plays a lot of the same games the Dood does too.

1. He plays both sides. Arizona State hockey for example.

2. He's had his emotional meltdown and public declaration there would be no more BTM info. That lasted about two seconds.
 
Whether one believes Flug or not is a personal matter- but the logic is dead on and from a historical perspective. ESPN has driven CR and UCONN has been a victim of it. ESPN chose the ACC over the Big East - they low balled the TV offer to the Big East and then enticed the ACC to take Big East schools. ESPN underestimated the Big East would survive and low balled the morphed AAC.

The Big 12 is stunningly smart enough to see that it isn't the low ball dollar amount but the Big 12 network that once again, the ACC gets and they don"t. They are the low conference on the totem pole. Thanks to ESPN. The difference now is that FOX has tried to become a player against ESPN. We mocked the new Big East basketball contract and coverage, but they were first on board. Fox wants to drive expansion east and the Big 12 is their last shot.

ESPN keeps using their tools(err writers) to put out their disinformation. Knocking the candidates, expansion only 2. They realize they are now in a position to pay and they don't want to.

My question, does ESPN let UCONN get money and grow in the Big 12 and risk losing them on a basketball side? Do they let UCF get a foothold in Florida? Both are home bases?
 
Two things:

I have liked more nelson posts recently than I ever could have imagined.

I know a guy who works for Espn, probably like everyone else around here. Got to talking about streaming and cutting the chord because thats what we did. He said oh im not supposed to like you, but mentioned in the conversation that something might be coming in the espn platform that would stream live sports to those chord cutters for $, but would exclude some major sports. I see that as MNF and etc.. so to lend credence to those that want to believe the Flug.
 
whaler11 said:
I'm sure he talks to someone or someones. If that is how the transaction was truly described by BTM then it's hard for me to take BTM's insights all that seriously.

BTM was proven completely inaccurate anyway. That the ACCN put expansion back in the news I guess has been good for people forgetting that.
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If you are looking for the singular oracle on CR, you will be disappointed. Even Boren, ESPN, Fox and UT couldn't predict right now how it will end up.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
If you are looking for the singular oracle on CR, you will be disappointed. Even Boren, ESPN, Fox and UT couldn't predict right now how it will end up.
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I'm not. That doesn't mean I'm going to pretend people who have a terrible record are insightful.
 
hardcorehusky said:
Whether one believes Flug or not is a personal matter- but the logic is dead on and from a historical perspective. ESPN has driven CR and UCONN has been a victim of it. ESPN chose the ACC over the Big East - they low balled the TV offer to the Big East and then enticed the ACC to take Big East schools. ESPN underestimated the Big East would survive and low balled the morphed AAC.

The Big 12 is stunningly smart enough to see that it isn't the low ball dollar amount but the Big 12 network that once again, the ACC gets and they don"t. They are the low conference on the totem pole. Thanks to ESPN. The difference now is that FOX has tried to become a player against ESPN. We mocked the new Big East basketball contract and coverage, but they were first on board. Fox wants to drive expansion east and the Big 12 is their last shot.

ESPN keeps using their tools(err writers) to put out their disinformation. Knocking the candidates, expansion only 2. They realize they are now in a position to pay and they don't want to.

My question, does ESPN let UCONN get money and grow in the Big 12 and risk losing them on a basketball side? Do they let UCF get a foothold in Florida? Both are home bases?
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UConn can't carry the AAC (nor would it want to) after another dismantling. They will kill that goose or lose it if we can figure out a plan B outside of the league. It's about time they paid for a valuable property because BC and CUSE haven't gotten them the NE presence they expected for the ACC. Need to pay us in the B12 or the ACC or it's done. Hopefully B12 (or less likely B1G) makes that decision for them. They may have run into enough egos that can't be intimidated this time around and see the cost of "offending" ESPN is overblown in this situation. Is there any doubt ESPN would exercise all contractual rights agreed to for their own benefit?
 
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I don't know whether to blame Cuse or BC...but the ACC is the college conference of the YES network...and is on ESPN family.

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As part of the deal, YES will televise up to 10 ACC football games and up to 23 men's ACC basketball games, as well as select women's basketball and Olympic sports. YES will also offer up to 10 Big East basketball games. Telecast schedules will be announced at a later date. All telecasts will be in HD.
 
billybud said:
I don't know whether to blame Cuse or BC...but the ACC is the college conference of the YES network...and is on ESPN family.

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As part of the deal, YES will televise up to 10 ACC football games and up to 23 men's ACC basketball games, as well as select women's basketball and Olympic sports. YES will also offer up to 10 Big East basketball games. Telecast schedules will be announced at a later date. All telecasts will be in HD.
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YES is part of the ESPN Family? I thought that FOX owned it.
 
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alexd. said:
You are correct. Fox owns a controlling stake in Yes.
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Yes...Fox owns the YES...and ESPN owns the ESPN family....Both, in NY, feature the ACC.

ESPN and Fox negotiated so that Fox could secure the ACC football and basketball and olympic sports on the YES channel.
 
ACC basketball should do pretty good on YES. ACC football, not so much. ACC conference football games just are not that appealing.
 
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billybud said:
Yes...Fox owns the YES...and ESPN owns the ESPN family....Both, in NY, feature the ACC.

ESPN and Fox negotiated so that Fox could secure the ACC football and basketball and olympic sports on the YES channel.
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That's ironic. When YES was first launched in the early 2000's they used to televise one or two UCONN football games each year when we first started playing IA football in 2002. They were televising the games that were not being picked up by ESPN. For those of us who do not live in CT it was great to be able to see games we normally would not have seen. They did a pretty good production job with those games.

Not that anybody seems to care, but we've been on two NYC local sports channels, YES and SNY, yet we don't deliver any part of the NYC market, according to some wankers.
 
billybud said:
I don't know whether to blame Cuse or BC...but the ACC is the college conference of the YES network...and is on ESPN family.

"
As part of the deal, YES will televise up to 10 ACC football games and up to 23 men's ACC basketball games, as well as select women's basketball and Olympic sports. YES will also offer up to 10 Big East basketball games. Telecast schedules will be announced at a later date. All telecasts will be in HD.
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ESPN also shows rodeo in Boston instead of BC football, so...
 
mavblues said:
Gotta wonder about people who click on the non-key tweet thread, read the content, and then complain about the tweets not being reliable enough.

#whatpartofnon-keydoyounotunderstand
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I'm sorry? Someone building a case for crediblity for non-key tweeters makes more sense to you?
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
ok, that's it. We can't compete with UC in the chili category. Game over.
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Texas chili
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Cinci chili
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Just too big a culture gap imho.
 
hardcorehusky said:
Whether one believes Flug or not is a personal matter- but the logic is dead on and from a historical perspective. ESPN has driven CR and UCONN has been a victim of it. ESPN chose the ACC over the Big East - they low balled the TV offer to the Big East and then enticed the ACC to take Big East schools. ESPN underestimated the Big East would survive and low balled the morphed AAC.

The Big 12 is stunningly smart enough to see that it isn't the low ball dollar amount but the Big 12 network that once again, the ACC gets and they don"t. They are the low conference on the totem pole. Thanks to ESPN. The difference now is that FOX has tried to become a player against ESPN. We mocked the new Big East basketball contract and coverage, but they were first on board. Fox wants to drive expansion east and the Big 12 is their last shot.

ESPN keeps using their tools(err writers) to put out their disinformation. Knocking the candidates, expansion only 2. They realize they are now in a position to pay and they don't want to.

My question, does ESPN let UCONN get money and grow in the Big 12 and risk losing them on a basketball side? Do they let UCF get a foothold in Florida? Both are home bases?
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Sure ESPN will let UConn play in the Big 12...they can't stop it anyway. And how could they stop it...the ACC can't play divisions at 15 so adding one to the ACC is out of the question. ESPN, can I suppose, whine to the Big 12, support another program, etc..but ultimately they have no say in the vote.

I think that ESPN had zero problems with UConn being added to the ACC, it was internal conference politics that dictated other choices. And, I suspect that it will be internal conference politics that decide Big 12 entrants.

The B1G wanted to go east and UConn had the market and athletics, you would have thought that (AAU being the difference) that the B1G wouldn't have taken Rutgers. I was somewhat surprised that AAU was valued over athletics (internal conference politics).
 
billybud said:
Sure ESPN will let UConn play in the Big 12...they can't stop it anyway. And how could they stop it...the ACC can't play divisions at 15 so adding one to the ACC is out of the question. ESPN, can I suppose, whine to the Big 12, support another program, etc..but ultimately they have no say in the vote.

I think that ESPN had zero problems with UConn being added to the ACC, it was internal conference politics that dictated other choices. And, I suspect that it will be internal conference politics that decide Big 12 entrants.

The B1G wanted to go east and UConn had the market and athletics, you would have thought that (AAU being the difference) that the B1G wouldn't have taken Rutgers. I was somewhat surprised that AAU was valued over athletics (internal conference politics).
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Rutgers allowed the B1G to strip the entire mid-Atlantic away from the ACC.

New Jersey -- a huge state with one school. Pennsylvania, Maryland, gone. And the ACC has nothing of New England except for a patch of grass somewhere.

This is why Rutgers is key for the B1G.
 
sportsart said:
I found the thread from the FB board and all it was was one comment in a positive story, and someone started a thread like the writer peed all over UConn FB. A sensitive bunch we can be.

Of course 4 posts in the thread gets sidetracked. :rolleyes:

Hey Ken Davis - go away
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Actually the fourth post was mine and was a direct response to the original thread topic. ;)
 
Dennis Dodd‏@dennisdoddcbs
A case for Houston in the @Big12Conference. Recruiting slipping in the conference.
The Big 12's biggest concern should be its football talent drain

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 1h1 hour ago
Interesting argument, but I think it makes more of a case for Cincinnati/UCF/USF/Memphis for new recruiting regions.

AZ‏@azescobar1
@frankthetank111 @dennisdoddcbs @Big12Conference -
Memphis and UCF now leap frogged UConn?

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 1h1 hour ago
I wouldn't say that. The column was about recruiting and those are the candidates in top recruiting areas.

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 1h1 hour ago
Many reasons why UConn would be attractive to Big 12 (academics, TV market, brand), but recruiting isn't one of them

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 1h1 hour ago
I've long thought that Big 12 is too reliant on state of Texas (whose growth masks poor demographics elsewhere).

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 1h1 hour ago
Houston's argument for Big 12 is less about recruiting and more about (a) shoring up its TV market and (b) politics.
 
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