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Yawkey Way said:
If Basketball was the driving force behind league realignments, then Uconn would be a P5 Conference, and BC probably not. I have already praised Uconn Basketball in this thread. I don't think you should need to have me repeat it again. However, if need be, I don't disagree that Uconn " won't get smoked by 30 points " in the B12 in basketball most years by most teams in that league.
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Never said BB wad the driving force of CR.
Why are you spending your day on Uconn's board? No sporting news on your board?
 
uchusky32 said:
Never said BB wad the driving force of CR.
Why are you spending your day on Uconn's board? No sporting news on your board?
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. My post numbers are far less than dozens of other posters here. I spend far less time on here than most here. I don't ask why others post as much as they do, nor why the they spend their time here. I assume its because they like the thread discussions. Its really none of my business however, and so I have never asked such a question of others on here, ( and don't ever intend to ). I do find some posters here engaging, respectful, and bright. I enjoy reading their thoughts and assessments, even when it might not jive with mine on occasion. ( I do agree more than you might think on some things said on here.. and express many a time where I might be in agreement.) As for the trolls, the personal insulters, the profane,...they are entitled to their arrogance, bitterness, or whatever ails them. They are found on most boards, and I'm able to avoid these people for the most part, so its no big deal, really.
 
Yawkey Way said:
Darwinism.

The effect was to destroy the BE, but debateable if that was the initial aim.

Should the B12 ( and/ or another league ) come in and poach the AAC teams, and the AAC football league then eventually collapses as a result, can we say that " it was readily apparent that the B12 truly wanted to destroy the AAC " ? or was it more the result, but not the aim ? Just asking. And if Uconn gets a B12 invite, accepts, then goes to the B12, and then the AAC league later collapses, does Uconn bear the responsibility for destroying a league ? Really ? Again, just asking.
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"Just asking" is well-known internet code for "I'm a troll."
 
Yawkey Way said:
If Basketball was the driving force behind league realignments, then Uconn would be in a P5 Conference by now, and BC, who knows, perhaps not. I have already praised Uconn Basketball in this thread. I don't think you should need to have me repeat it again. However, if need be, I don't disagree with you that Uconn " won't get smoked by 30 points " in the B12 in basketball most years by most teams in that league.
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You just won't quit.

This is like beating a puppy but here goes....

Below is BC's ACC conference record in basketball and overall football record since 2011...

Basketball Football

2011 4-12 4-8
2012 7-11 2-10
2013 4-14 7-5
2014 4-14 7-6
2015 0-10* 3-9

*massacre still pending

BC has not made the NCAA tournament since 2009 and has not won an NCAA tournament game since 1996. During that same period (from 2009) UConn has won 2 men's NCs in basketball and 4 NCs in women's bb (with a likely 5th to occur this year.) The UConn men's football team has won the BE and appeared in a BCS bowl.

There is no comparing BC to UConn. Why you want to I have no idea?

Clearly you (BC), the UVA dude, and the FSU dude have a lot of ACC issues to discuss. You should go over to the ACC board and work those out...

Now back to non- key tweets...and no soup for you
 
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Yawkey Way said:
If Uconn should get into the B12, will their chances of beating out Texas, Oklahoma to get to a B12 championship game, and then a National Championship game be any better than that of BC getting there from the ACC ? My guess, Uconn, as a New England School, will struggle just as mightily to beat out Texas, Oklahoma most years to get to both the B12 as well as the National Championship Game. This does not mean however that if Uconn gets to the B12, it won't be better than the AAC. Would you agree or disagree with that assessment ? Also, BC football is not " irrelevant " in the ACC. They have spent more times at or near the top of the ACC since their membership, than near the bottom. And as for " wins ",they have gone to bowl games more than the majority of ACC teams. I think you are on solid ground if you don't like BC for one reason or another, but you lose your sense of proper perspective when you say that BC has been " irrelevent " there since joining the ACC.
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BC has become irrelevant since joining the ACC. You wouldn't be spending so much time worrying about what UConn fans think if you didn't know it to be true.
 
dwalks93 said:
You just won't quit.

This is like beating a puppy but here goes....

Below is BC's ACC conference record in basketball and overall football record since 2011...
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BC did not join the ACC " in 2011". The unbiased, more legitimate assessment would be to evaluate the entire body of wins and losses of BC (both its good years and bad years ) since joining the ACC. While not spectacular by any measure, it does serve as a realistic asssessment that BC is not nearly the " suckiness " that has been portrayed here on kore than a few occasions. Taking the years " 2011 and onward " merely takes a much shorter ( and much unfairer) time frame in order to try and bolster what a longer time frame would not support. It would be like saying Nebraska sucks in football, and Baylor is great in football ( utilizing the years 2011 to now to support the claim ) By any objective, unbiased measure, the shorter time frame is an unfair measuring stick.
 
Yawkey Way said:
BC did not join the ACC " in 2011". The unbiased, more legitimate assessment would be to evaluate the entire body of wins and losses of BC (both its good years and bad years ) since joining the ACC. While not spectacular by any measure, it does serve as a realistic asssessment that BC is not nearly the " suckiness " that has been portrayed here on kore than a few occasions. Taking the years " 2011 and onward " merely takes a much shorter ( and much unfairer) time frame in order to try and bolster what a longer time frame would not support. It would be like saying Nebraska sucks in football, and Baylor is great in football ( utilizing the years 2011 to now to support the claim ) By any objective, unbiased measure, the shorter time frame is an unfair measuring stick.
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We'll that is how UConn is looked at in CR. What have you done for me lately. We were actually pretty decent a few years ago
 
BlueHen said:
BC has become irrelevant since joining the ACC. .
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We just disagree with this then. Heck, even some Uconn fans disagree with this. Recall, some said that BC had so much political influence and leverage within the ACC that it was able to single handedly keep Uconn out of the ACC. If a school is " irrelevent " within the league, then logically it would have absolutely no sway to do so. So we can't have it both ways. Either BC is " relevant " in the ACC, or it is " irrelevent ", in the ACC. But it can not be both. So which is it ? Just asking mind you.
 
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Wise2 said:
We'll that is how UConn is looked at in CR. What have you done for me lately. We were actually pretty decent a few years ago
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And that too is unfair, imo. 2 wrongs do not make a right. if it is unfair to judge Uconn on a " what have you done lately basis ", ( which it is ) it is equally unfair to utilize a " what have you done lately " to a BC football assessment as well,imo.
 
uconndogs said:
NO NCAA TOURNEY WINS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!
:p:p:p:p:D:D:D:D
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And Uconn football has just 3 Bowl Game wins in the last 50 years, ( BC has 4 times more Bowl Game wins than does Uconn ), but so what ?
 
Yawkey Way said:
And Uconn football has just 3 Bowl Game wins in the last 50 years, ( BC has 4 times more Bowl Game wins than does Uconn ), but so what ?
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And BC fans keep comparing their football team to UConn's football team prior to 1999 when UConn was D1-AA and did not become bowl eligible until 2002. Then again, some BC fans still think Holy Cross is their big football rival.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
some BC fans still think Holy Cross is their big football rival.
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I 've never met any BC fan thats still alive that thinks " Holy Cross is BC's big football Rival" .So I really don't know what you are talking about here regarding this. I don't believe that you even really believe this, as its so off the wall a comment for you to be making, imo.
 
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dwalks93 said:
...the CT lawsuit was stupid and it failed...
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I believe the University of Connecticut received a 7 figure payment as a result of that "failed" lawsuit.
 
billybud said:
You can't really have it both ways...

Proclaim that BC is worse off in a P5 than if it had stayed....

And yet yearn so for the same opportunity.

I do understand rivalry hatreds though, God bless "em.

Friends come and go but enemies are forever...and are thus a treasure.
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Not seeing how those are mutually exclusive positions.
 
CL82 said:
I believe the University of Connecticut received a 7 figure payment as a result of that "failed" lawsuit.
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I've posted this article before but it explains the dynamics of GORs and the response to conference lawsuits pretty well...

http://sportspolitico.com/2015/02/16/will-grant-of-rights-protect-big12-from-future-raids/

Even if UConn got a 7 figure payment the damage to our program perception and subsequent ill will was not worth it.

7 figure payment? The difference between G5 and P5 is over $20 million a year. 7 figures is nothing.

At the University President level, there is a certain level of camaraderie expected among the schools. They work in Ivy Towers and suing a fellow university in court for money is unsightly. Money may dominate college sports and thus conference affiliation but UConn was the first to take a fellow school to court.

UConn suing BC and its chancellor did not help us. Who knows how UConn's lawsuit effected the later ACC expansion votes but there is no angle where it was viewed as a positive. Did the lawsuit keep the BE together? Did the lawsuit get UConn in a P5 conference?

Blumenthal filing the lawsuit was more about promoting himself for future political ambitions....the lawsuit had less to do with helping UConn.

Whatever, it is done now. If UConn ends up in the BIG I'll be saying the lawsuit was the best thing that ever happened.
 
dwalks93 said:
I've posted this article before but it explains the dynamics of GORs and the response to conference lawsuits pretty well...

http://sportspolitico.com/2015/02/16/will-grant-of-rights-protect-big12-from-future-raids/

Even if UConn got a 7 figure payment the damage to our program perception and subsequent ill will was not worth it.

7 figure payment? The difference between G5 and P5 is over $20 million a year. 7 figures is nothing.

At the University President level, there is a certain level of camaraderie expected among the schools. They work in Ivy Towers and suing a fellow university in court for money is unsightly. Money may dominate college sports and thus conference affiliation but UConn was the first to take a fellow school to court.

UConn suing BC and its chancellor did not help us. Who knows how UConn's lawsuit effected the later ACC expansion votes but there is no angle where it was viewed as a positive. Did the lawsuit keep the BE together? Did the lawsuit get UConn in a P5 conference?

Blumenthal filing the lawsuit was more about promoting himself for future political ambitions....the lawsuit had less to do with helping UConn.

Whatever, it is done now. If UConn ends up in the BIG I'll be saying the lawsuit was the best thing that ever happened.
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God, these attacks on Blumenthal just show idiocy. Fact -- as Attorney General, Dick Blumenthal was a lawyer, not a principal. He didn't sue on his own. He sued because the University of Connecticut -- a state instrumentality -- asked him to.

Seriously, some of you don't deserve your friggin franchise.
 
CL82 said:
I believe the University of Connecticut received a 7 figure payment as a result of that "failed" lawsuit.
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Nobody knows. The lawsuit never went to Court. It was settled out of court, with an agreement by the parties that the terms of the settlement would never be revealed to the public. Besides, even if the settlement was for 7 figures, the expenses might've been pretty high. In any event, most people...including many in the Uconn community... freely admit by now in retrospect, that suing the ACC was a collosal mistake whose consequences may very well have been to the detriment of the School to this very day.
 
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businesslawyer said:
God, these attacks on Blumenthal just show idiocy. Fact -- as Attorney General, Dick Blumenthal was a lawyer, not a principal. He didn't sue on his own. He sued because the University of Connecticut -- a state instrumentality -- asked him to.

Seriously, some of you don't deserve your friggin franchise.
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Unless Richard Blumenthal was your father or something you need to calm down and take a deep breath. "Idiocy" and "not deserving your friggin franchise" is over the top. If you disagree with my opinion no issue but you don't need to make it personal.

For what it is worth I am an attorney as well although I am not egoistical enough to put it in my username. As such, I know exactly what the role of the Attorney General is. He is the primary advisor and lead counsel for the state of Connecticut. He is not some mindless suing instrument who sues when the state of Connecticut tells him to. The key words are advise and evaluate

There were clearly grounds for a lawsuit. But as lead counsel it was his job to determine the likely outcome and the public opinion costs of a victory. Additionally who was sued and whether to sue individuals as opposed to just the schools was his decision. Every attorney in America advises his/her clients and Blumenthal's client was Connecticut.

IMO The lawsuit did not benefit UConn. Maybe Blumenthal's hands were tied but he is an very aggressive litigator and seems to thrive on highly publicized lawsuits. He is now a US senator so clearly he had bigger aspirations than the AG.

At this point it no longer matters...time to move on
 
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dwalks93 said:
Unless Richard Blumenthal was your father or something you need to calm down and take a deep breath. "Idiocy" and "not deserving your friggin franchise" is over the top. If you disagree with my opinion no issue but you don't need to make it personal.

For what it is worth I am an attorney as well although I am not egoistical enough to put it in my username. As such, I know exactly what the role of the Attorney General is. He is the primary advisor and lead counsel for the state of Connecticut. He is not some mindless suing instrument who sues when the state of Connecticut tells him to. The key words are advise and evaluate

There were clearly grounds for a lawsuit. But as lead counsel it was his job to determine the likely outcome and the public opinion costs of a victory. Additionally who was sued and whether to sue individuals as opposed to just the schools was his decision. Every attorney in America advises his/her clients and Blumenthal's client was Connecticut.

IMO The lawsuit did not benefit UConn. Maybe Blumenthal's hands were tied but he is an very aggressive litigator and seems to thrive on highly publicized lawsuits. He is now a US senator so clearly he had bigger aspirations than the AG.

At this point it no longer matters...time to move on
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Oh great two lawyers arguing on the boneyard
 
dwalks93 said:
Unless Richard Blumenthal was your father or something you need to calm down and take a deep breath. "Idiocy" and "not deserving your friggin franchise" is over the top. If you disagree with my opinion no issue but you don't need to make it personal.

For what it is worth I am an attorney as well although I am not egoistical enough to put it in my username. As such, I know exactly what the role of the Attorney General is. He is the primary advisor and lead counsel for the state of Connecticut. He is not some mindless suing instrument who sues when the state of Connecticut tells him to. The key words are advise and evaluate

There were clearly grounds for a lawsuit. But as lead counsel it was his job to determine the likely outcome and the public opinion costs of a victory. Additionally who was sued and whether to sue individuals as opposed to just the schools was his decision. Every attorney in America advises his/her clients and Blumenthal's client was Connecticut.

IMO The lawsuit did not benefit UConn. Maybe Blumenthal's hands were tied but he is an very aggressive litigator and seems to thrive on highly publicized lawsuits. He is now a US senator so clearly he had bigger aspirations than the AG.

At this point it no longer matters...time to move on
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You are wrong. The BCS automatic bid would have been taken away in 2003 if not for the litigation and threat of more. And for those too stupid to remember, other schools were plaintiffs on that lawsuit.
 
Pitt, Rutgers, And WVU were also plaintiffs.....but Blumenthal was the voice of the suit.

When the accusation was made that BC's Athletic Director, Defillipo, deliberately misled Big East officials in a sort of conspiracy, it got personal with him, I think.

Nobody seemed to hold it against Pitt, and all we really know is that BC was the one publicly vocal and negative about UConn and the ACC

Other than Boston College, I wonder if the other programs really gave a rat's patootie.
 
Yawkey Way said:
I don't follow college basketball. (Nobody seems to in Greater Boston). I didn't even know who BC played yesterday in college basketball. I think the young Celtics are playing well of late now however, and Bradley's 3 pointer at the buzzer to beat Lebron and the Cavs was pretty nice. But I'd imagine you probably don't like and follow the pros, just the amateurs games ? ( which is fine and all too .)
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You made the case for why BC made a mistake. People used to follow college basketball in Boston. Hell, BC was even decent at it once upon a time. I live in metro Boston too, and it is frustrating. There are tons of college basketball fans here...they just don't follow the local teams, so sports bars and the like don't have a consistent fan base.
 
billybud said:
Pitt, Rutgers, And WVU were also plaintiffs.....but Blumenthal was the voice of the suit.

When the accusation was made that BC's Athletic Director, Defillipo, deliberately misled Big East officials in a sort of conspiracy, it got personal with him, I think.

Nobody seemed to hold it against Pitt, and all we really know is that BC was the one publicly vocal and negative about UConn and the ACC

Other than Boston College, I wonder if the other programs really gave a rat's patootie.
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Miami. While Shalala and Miami were not as publicly vocal as Flipper, Leahy, and BC; Shalala was pissed. She was definitely opposed to UConn after that. And I heard that directly from people in UConn and FSU's AD's, as well as a relatively big donor (not boats and hoes big) at Miami.
 
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