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Why does anyone think the Big 12 is adding Memphis? Because the Dood said so?

They aren't adding anyone.
 
Football:
Memphis -
All-time record 455–504–33 (.475)
Postseason bowl record 4–3 (.571)

UConn -
All-time record 502–541–38 (.482)
Postseason bowl record 3–2 (.600)

Everything else: hoops, academics, markets, Olympic sports, endowment, student/alumni size, territorial flagship, etc is a very solid lean to UConn.

Yet, Memphis is about to get their escape ticket punched ahead of us because they won a few football games last season, has a larger capacity football stadium, and would bring TN football recruiting?? I have a hard time believing this one. If the FedEx dude buys their way into the B12, that's one thing. But I refuse to believe that Memphis brings any P5 conference any value whatsoever. TN recruiting??? The B12 could invite MTSU and get the same exposure.

Again, if Memphis gets into a P5 conference before we do, I think our entire state will go into a meltdown. UConn leadership should have a PR at the ready to try to keep this region from going full riot. That is an INCREDIBLY tough sell.

If Memphis and especially Houston get into the XII, it will have little to do with UConn's strengths and weaknesses and everything to do with Texas politics. Nothing Herbst nor Warde or anyone outside of Austin have any say in.
 
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV By the way a gentleman who claims connections to Memphis contacted me and said my info on Memphis & the Big 12 is accurate.

 
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV @Frogman87 Big 12 likes Memphis. Memphis is a top TV market for football viewing. Likes the commitment to facilities and buzz around program

The Dude also said:

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 22h22 hours ago
@StrengthOfSpear Just me...no one has told me this...but I think BYU is a lock for #11 and #12 is down to Memphis. Cincy, ECU or UCF.

He is throwing out a lot of names. I doubt it would be Memphis over the other choices.

I get that it is a bummer for us, but geography is against us.
 
If the Big 12 is smart, and they're not, they'll take BYU and Cincinnati.

Memphis has had a good year, but they are historically a pure train wreck and an absolute cesspool.

They'd Rutgers themselves two seconds after getting an invite.

Cincinnati is a real, live P5 program and they make sense given the conference footprint.
 
If the Big 12 is smart, and they're not, they'll take BYU and Cincinnati.

Memphis has had a good year, but they are historically a pure train wreck and an absolute cesspool.

They'd Rutgers themselves two seconds after getting an invite.

Cincinnati is a real, live P5 program and they make sense given the conference footprint.

If they were smart, they would have added Utah before they lost Colorado and would have had a chance to hold A&M and Mizzou. They have botched things pretty badly.
 
The Dude also said:

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 22h22 hours ago
@StrengthOfSpear Just me...no one has told me this...but I think BYU is a lock for #11 and #12 is down to Memphis. Cincy, ECU or UCF.

He is throwing out a lot of names. I doubt it would be Memphis over the other choices.

I get that it is a bummer for us, but geography is against us.

While at the end of the day you're right that geography is probably against UConn, keep in mind you're rationalizing news delivered by The Dude. That's like ducking for cover at darts being thrown against a wall on another end of a building.
 
Depends on the kind of darts.
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I can't even begin to imagine why the Big 12 would consider adding ECU. Their only appeal would be a decent football program. Why would you take them over Cincinnati, who has a better football program, is good in other sports of note, and is way closer to your footprint. Not to mention that Ohio recruiting >>>>>>>> North Carolina recruiting.
 
The whole thing is absurd. There are 3 P5 schools currently not in P5 conferences: BYU, Cincy, UConn. Even within this, BYU and UConn are a half a tier above Cincy in terms of overall value.

Memphis, Temple, UCF, USF, and Houston are urban schools--a couple of them quite large--that might be able to wedge their way into a conference that's desperate, but they feel like the next tier for a whole host of reasons.

All the other American schools really have no shot and are out of those schools' league.
 
If they were smart, they would have added Utah before they lost Colorado and would have had a chance to hold A&M and Mizzou. They have botched things pretty badly.

Utah doesn't really mean s--- to anyone. A&M and Missouri do not turn down the SEC because Utah joins the Big 12.

Pac 12 took them because their initial options did not materialize.

The Big 12 was going to take a hit once Nebraska left and they did.

What they should have done was invite Louisville, West Virginia and Cincy when s--- started to go south.
 
I got this in the mail today. I know it's not a tweet, but look how they spelled Big. It has to be a message, right? They are telling me something, right? I think non key tweets should now include car washes, liquor/package stores and, on the coattails of the BTM dinner, restaurants.
Maybe I should take a break from the board. I think I'm losing it.
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Utah doesn't really mean s--- to anyone. A&M and Missouri do not turn down the SEC because Utah joins the Big 12.

Pac 12 took them because their initial options did not materialize.

The Big 12 was going to take a hit once Nebraska left and they did.

What they should have done was invite Louisville, West Virginia and Cincy when s--- started to go south.
I would add Pitt to that trio
Cinn-Ville
Pitt-WVA were terrific rivalries and next door to each other.
 
The B12 really fahqed up by not inviting Louisville. They're really good at both of the sports that matter and would've given someone for Kansas to play once football season is over. Not to mention, WVU wouldn't be out on its own island any more.
 
The B12 really fahqed up by not inviting Louisville. They're really good at both of the sports that matter and would've given someone for Kansas to play once football season is over. Not to mention, WVU wouldn't be out on its own island any more.
they should have added Pitt too.
 
The B12 really fahqed up by not inviting Louisville. They're really good at both of the sports that matter and would've given someone for Kansas to play once football season is over. Not to mention, WVU wouldn't be out on its own island any more.
they should have added Pitt too.
But then who could the ACC have added? Oh wait
 
Without Louisville or Pitt, the ACC could have stayed at 12.
They needed to increase membership to trigger a TV contract update/increase.
 
I would add Pitt to that trio
Cinn-Ville
Pitt-WVA were terrific rivalries and next door to each other.

That would have tied the Acc's hands and kind of flipped the table so to speak, but the B12 is/was obviously not a visionary or preemptive group. When you really look at all these realignment moves that have been made by all the conferences that have done it, nobody has hit a grand slam. Lousiville and Missou started well and now have cooled off somewhat. TCU is probably the top add, and they were headed to the Big East, ha. There have been decent adds, or in some cases non events/turds. However, by doing it quickly and avoiding all the scrutiny, the conference(s) are rewarded with their expansion while the b12 blows out in the wind. A lot of really good programs get stones cast at them unfairly simply because they got left out when the music stopped. Now geography and politics is clouding the process which is never a good thing.
 
They needed to increase membership to trigger a TV contract update/increase.

Hello UConn and Rutgers. And how much better off would both the ACC and Big XII had it all gone down this way. Pitt, WVU, Cinci and Louiville in the Big XII, UConn and Rutgers in the ACC. Maryland might still be there too.
 
Hello UConn and Rutgers. And how much better off would both the ACC and Big XII had it all gone down this way. Pitt, WVU, Cinci and Louiville in the Big XII, UConn and Rutgers in the ACC. Maryland might still be there too.
And then the Big Ten would have been in weakest position moving forward? That just was not going to happen.
 
Troy Willardson ‏@CougarFan_ · 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV in your opinion when will the B12 expand and who will they add?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@CougarFan_ Just my opinion based on conversations I've had... 2017 at the earliest. BYU should be a lock at #11 with their metrics.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@CougarFan_ #12 will come from Memphis, Cincy, UCF, ECU, or UCONN. That's the order I THINK the B12 has them ranked by preference right now

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@CougarFan_ And only if the Big 12 misses the playoffs in 2016.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@TheBenBoothShow Big 12 expansion, or lack thereof, will tell us if the Big 12 survives beyond the GoR.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@TheBenBoothShow I have no worries about WVU if the B12 falls apart in 2025. Dr. Gee has it coverd.
 

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