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[itgoeslike]

If the Big Ten takes OU and Kansas as some have suggested, and Texas follows, they'll need a fourth. It's unlikely that the B1G will take another from the Big 12, or Missouri/Vanderbilt, or a strengthened ACC school. That leaves Connecticut. If the B1G shakes loose a Virginia school, or more, UConn has an opportunity to move to the ACC.

 

[woomba]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

 

[itgoeslike]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

Texas Tech? Baylor? SMU? TCU? Houston? I don't think so.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Bingo. No chance UConn gets its ticket punched if it's KU and OU.

UConn's best bet is that OU jumps to the SEC.

If that happens enough gets shaken up that maybe we have a chance because than the SEC would need a 16th from either the Big 12 or ACC. KU gets the B1G invite at 15 and we get a either a B1G invite at 16 or an ACC invite to backfill an ACC team that jumped to the SEC.

UConn's best chance is that the Big 12 holds together. It did last time it's imminent demise was rumored. As did the ACC when it's demise was rumored. I'll say it again, 4 X 16 is not enough schools. It has to be closer to 5 X 16 or 4 X 20.

 

[FDNY99]

IMHO Texas either goes west to the Pac...or most likely goes to the ACC with ND...with both schools keeping their tv deals. This puts the ACC at 16. They stop there. That will be enough to either get the ACCN off the ground or up the $$ from ESPN. It also gives the ACC a little more time to launch the ACCN.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

 

[UConn9604]

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

I think this is very true. A&M is already gone to the SEC and not leaving anytime soon. So which other Texas school has substantial value? Not Baylor, which has a lot in common with Wake Forest, and definitely not Texas Tech (not to mention TCU, Houston, etc.).

 

[itgoeslike]

If the PAC takes the four Texas schools; the Big takes Kansas and OU; the SEC takes OK State and K State, and the ACC takes WVU and holds or adds Iowa State too; then UConn is screwed. . .

 

[FDNY99]

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

What FfldCntyFan says here!!!!! UT looks out for one thing and one thing ONLY...UT! If every school in Texas was left out by CR tomorrow they would be doing cartwheels in Austin! They showed how they look at all the other schools in that state when they started the LHN. A&M couldn't wait to get away from them...just like OU has had enough. If you look at UT rationally you quickly realize they look at themselves as above everyone else and equal to ND. That's what makes me think that those 2 schools will be 15 & 16 in the ACC...with the special privilege of keeping their tv deals.

 

[Exit 4]

If the PAC takes the four Texas schools; the Big takes Kansas and OU; the SEC takes OK State and K State, and the ACC takes WVU and holds or adds Iowa State too; then UConn is screwed. . .

the cable box revenue model is becoming less predictable.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/cord-cutters-weights-on-pay-tv-1438820384


“I was shocked at how far the ratings across the board have fallen this spring, and you can’t really explain that easily. It’s not just Netflix,” said Mike White, the former chief executive of DirecTV. “It’s clear that the millennial generation is having an impact, and every media company is trying to figure out how to connect with them.”

In addition, for June through mid-July, the top 30 cable networks were down more than 10% in viewers in prime time and 20% among adults 18-49 compared with the same period a year ago, according to data from Nielsen.

Cable networks that have lost a significant amount of subscribers over the past four years include ESPN, Viacom Inc.’s Nickelodeon and Time Warner’s TNT, according to Nielsen data. Disney CEORobert Iger acknowledged ESPN has lost customers, but told analysts Tuesday that Nielsen’s estimate of a 7% decline was inaccurately large and that no one was hitting the panic button.

 

[itgoeslike]

What FfldCntyFan says here!!!!! UT looks out for one thing and one thing ONLY...UT! If every school in Texas was left out by CR tomorrow they would be doing cartwheels in Austin! They showed how they look at all the other schools in that state when they started the LHN. A&M couldn't wait to get away from them...just like OU has had enough. If you look at UT rationally you quickly realize they look at themselves as above everyone else and equal to ND. That's what makes me think that those 2 schools will be 15 & 16 in the ACC...with the special privilege of keeping their tv deals.

Does LHN work if their bulk of their sports are in the ACC or do they look to craft their own football deal similar to ND?

 

[FDNY99]

Does LHN work if their bulk of their sports are in the ACC or do they look to craft their own football deal similar to ND?

IMHO LHN works because outside of basketball they will have enough content to still be viable. And even then if the ACC let's them keep the LHN as terms of UT agreeing to join the Conference...they can still put their hoops games that aren't on ESPN. Thing is ESPN has a stake in the LHN so that stuff would be pretty easy.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

If the Big 12 completely implodes, we are beyond screwed.

We're already beyond , but we would be so far beyond that it'd take some sort of NASA rover launching from regular to find us in our new orbit.

We'd be in a slightly prettier version of the AAC, but we'd likely be there for the rest of time.

If this is true, then we are already banished for the rest of time.

Seriously, what far fetched but plausible scenario gets us in the P4? Other than mass chaos of the B12 implosion and the half dozen permutations it might create, are we waiting on Notre Dame to join the ACC (pipe dream)? B1G invite in ten years (same likelihood as a B12 implosion)? I'm coming up blank on something else?

 

[CallMeBruce]

If this is true, then we are already banished for the rest of time.

Seriously, what far fetched but plausible scenario gets us in the P4? Other than mass chaos of the B12 implosion and the half dozen permutations it might create, are we waiting on Notre Dame to join the ACC (pipe dream)? B1G invite in ten years (same likelihood as a B12 implosion)? I'm coming up blank on something else?

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

The B12 losing OU, Kansas, and Texas equals "implosion."

 

[Adios]

Once again, Delany said as of this year that the Big Ten is expanding east...........

Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas A&M already tried. The Big Ten went with Maryland and Rutgers.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...a-state-sought-to-join-big-ten-in-2010-072615

 

[CL82]

Once again, Delany said as of this year that the Big Ten is expanding east......

Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas A&M already tried. The Big Ten went with Maryland and Rutgers.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...a-state-sought-to-join-big-ten-in-2010-072615

(I don't believe ESPN or Fox would stop paying the Big 12's television rights fee because they could be sued for helping to encourage the existing Big 12 schools to change conferences. Why would the schools be leaving for the Pac 12 and the Big Ten? For more TV money. Where does that money come from? ESPN and Fox's deals with the two conferences. It's no surprise that no conference has ever lost its television package over the loss of members. Now what would happen when the TV contracts ran out? The conference might well die). ​

Yeah and ESPN would never fund the evisceration of a conference leaving it to whither and die.

 

[CallMeBruce]

The B12 losing OU, Kansas, and Texas equals "implosion."

I don't think I disputed that anywhere. I'm just saying what I think the result would be. I don't think a Big 12 implosion necessarily creates a horrible, dire situation for UConn.

 

[TRest]

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

There is no real reason a conference like the ACC needs to backfill if it loses a couple of members. As long as they have 12, they have their championship game. Why add more schools when you already have plenty of dead weight as it is? I just don't think there is some end game where there will be 4 or 5 power conferences with 16 teams each.

 

[don356]

Tcu and Baylor are arguably the two best fball schools in the b12 right now.

 

[CallMeBruce]

There is no real reason a conference like the ACC needs to backfill if it loses a couple of members. As long as they have 12, they have their championship game. Why add more schools when you already have plenty of dead weight as it is? I just don't think there is some end game where there will be 4 or 5 power conferences with 16 teams each.

Well, they did it last time they lost someone.

 

[whaler11]

(I don't believe ESPN or Fox would stop paying the Big 12's television rights fee because they could be sued for helping to encourage the existing Big 12 schools to change conferences. Why would the schools be leaving for the Pac 12 and the Big Ten? For more TV money. Where does that money come from? ESPN and Fox's deals with the two conferences. It's no surprise that no conference has ever lost its television package over the loss of members. Now what would happen when the TV contracts ran out? The conference might well die). ​

Yeah and ESPN would never fund the evisceration of a conference leaving it to whither and die.

That came after ESPN offered the Big East a fair deal they turned down. The Big East committed suicide.

ESPN was just the pharmacist who filled the RX for the sleeping pills.

 

[TRest]

Well, they did it last time they lost someone.

Supposedly it's like a chess game where conferences are grabbing schools to capture or block others from entering markets. UL was a possibility to the B12 or SEC (long shot), so was snatched up. Pitt was supposedly looked at as a possibility to the B12, so also snatched up. And the ACC strategy always seems to be looking for football relevance by addition, since the existing schools can never get it done. So add FSU, Miami, UL, in a constant attempt to stay relevant in football. We have correctly been perceived as a school that will always be available if the situation presents itself.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Supposedly it's like a chess game where conferences are grabbing schools to capture or block others from entering markets. UL was a possibility to the B12 or SEC (long shot), so was snatched up. Pitt was supposedly looked at as a possibility to the B12, so also snatched up. And the ACC strategy always seems to be looking for football relevance by addition, since the existing schools can never get it done. So add FSU, Miami, UL, in a constant attempt to stay relevant in football. We have correctly been perceived as a school that will always be available if the situation presents itself.

This would be that situation. If the B1G and SEC are encroaching on the ACC's territory from both sides, then adding WVU and UConn would be the best way for them to patch the holes made and shore up their weak spots.

 

[CL82]

That came after ESPN offered the Big East a fair deal they turned down. The Big East committed suicide.

ESPN was just the pharmacist who filled the RX for the sleeping pills.

Disagree. The deal was worst of "P6." In an era where each deal was making more than the last, ESPN offered them a worse deal that the ACC, a conference that we outperformed consistently. Now as it turned out is was the wrong decision but it wasn't suicide.

If you are selling a car with an FMV $15,000 and guy comes up and offers you $5,000 and then shoots you when you say no, your decision turned out to be the wrong one but it wasn't suicide.