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[CoastAtlantic]

Jeff Johnston ‏@twojman 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV network is tough, ala cart is coming. Essentially taxing non sports fans will not last.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@twojman Did you see the details. New thinking... apps & individual subscriptions.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@twojman Let me point this out. If networks become individual subscription based then who will make the most money?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@twojman The conferences with football crazy fans or the ones who favor hoops?

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 44m44 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @twojman they won't. It's bad for conferences. No unique viewership

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 39m39 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @twojman people don't seem to understand that what makes live TV, no DVR, worth so much money is unique viewership.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 38m38 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @twojman subscription based Internet does not have unique viewers. That's why the pay per view model in CFB didn't work

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@twojman My bet is under that model the Big 12 and SEC lead in subscriptions.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 45m45 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @twojman the population and alumni bases of SEC and B12 lag behind the B10 and ACC. ACC is the demographic king

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 51m51 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV you are forgetting that the price of data will rapidly increase causing "unique viewership" to disappear. TV will still rule

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 49m49 minutes ago
@NebGradDubDub That's why the B12 model will also have cable provider model.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 41m41 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV a network will not help the B12 now. The size of the schools, repetitive geography, and demographics have doomed it

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 34m 34 minutes ago
The notion that Big 10 will suffer vs other conferences due to the cord cutting of the consumers of cable is incorrect.

 

[The Funster]

My God, this stream of consciousness tweeting is such BS.

 

[buddy]

Eh, I don't know. Louisville supposedly showed pause at the 20 million dollar exit fee WVU agreed to pay. That was Louisville. Keep in mind there were only three BE schools left behind. UCONN Cincinnati and USF. Four with loisville.

Remember that Sue Herbst was quoted publicly questioning whether sending student athletes out to Iowa was the best thing for student athletes. I think people misremember the sequence of events as they went down. Wvu went all in securing their bid to big 12.

So basically you are saying that she (and Warde, by association), basically flubbed UConn's chances at that time. Am I reading this thread correctly? I am now redeemed after being crucified a thousand posts ago?

 

[noeynox]

So basically you are saying that she (and Warde, by association), basically flubbed UConn's chances at that time. Am I reading this thread correctly? I am now redeemed after being crucified a thousand posts ago?

I wouldn't go that far. But she did say something to the effect that bussing student athletes to Iowa might not be in their best interest. Of course that comment came while we were in a BCS conference and there was no P5, so you have to keep it in context. She'd bus them out UCLA and drive the bus herself, given our current conference affiliation.

 

[buddy]

I wouldn't go that far. But she did say something to the effect that bussing student athletes to Iowa might not be in their best interest. Of course that comment came while we were in a BCS conference and there was no P5, so you have to keep it in context. She'd bus them out UCLA and drive the bus herself, given our current conference affiliation.

I would drive them for free.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub Whatever package of Big Ten games FOX does acquire it will have greater ratings than Big 12. Big 12 needs to grow footprint..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub I think its so obvious that the Big 12 is in need of increasing footprint that when it doesn't it has to be OU/UT eyeing exit

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @thedudeofwv Remember, it was Oliver Luck who said in 2012 the Big 12 needs to grow to 12 or 14 or end up like Big East

 

[whaler11]

I think it's pretty funny that anyone would think that the direct marketing of a conference network to end users would ever in a million years generate revenue higher than what the networks pay in aggregate.

The second the costs can't be spread to the 90% who don't watch sports the economics of college conferences collapse.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Do you think it hurt them that they made it abundantly clear, that they would start play the following fall come hell or high water? I think you're underestimating where that placed them in the jockeying for position to get in. The Big 12 was desperate to add a team.

That was helpful. The fact that the ACC and SEC had both turned them down was also helpful. The Big Ten started laughing as soon as they saw the WV area code on the phone.

 

[kyleslamb]

I think it's pretty funny that anyone would think that the direct marketing of a conference network to end users would ever in a million years generate revenue higher than what the networks pay in aggregate.

The second the costs can't be spread to the 90% who don't watch sports the economics of college conferences collapse.

Eh, the math suggests it's actually very attainable with proper marketing and quality content.

You're forgetting that currently there's a middle man on advertising dollars: the networks. If the leagues went to a direct-to-consumer model where they produced their own subscriber network, all those advertising dollars would go straight to them on top of the fractional portion of folks that are paying a monthly subscription to access the network.

The major leagues are currently bringing in, what, $250 million in media revenue? Heck, that's a piece of cake. Let's just take your 10% of those watching sports at face value, as that is a pretty reasonable estimate; With 120 million households, that gives us roughly 12 million potential subscribers. Split that into five major leagues for simplicity, you're looking at about 2.4 million (though the Big Ten and SEC would obviously have more than the Big 12, for example). Also, though, we should assume some of those 12 million are hardcore fans that would subscribe to multiple channels. Let's round it off to an even 2.5 million, shall we?

To reach $250 million a year, a network would only need to charge $8.33 a month. But that's without ANY advertising factored in. At $5 cpm, which is pretty small for sports programming, the league network could yield $5,000-10,000 apiece for some 90+ 30-second spots that happen in a college football game. That's about a half million in revenue or more per game (the actual networks are bringing in much, much more than that because of higher ratings, so I'm being conservative). For some 100 games in a year, plus all the other basketball, baseball, hockey, recruiting, etc. inventory, they could crack $100 million in ad revenue alone. That means a subscription model could supplement the cable-based model by charging about $5/mo.

It wouldn't be easy, but the idea that leagues could supplement media revenue with a subscription model isn't pie in the sky, either.

 

[whaler11]

Eh, the math suggests it's actually very attainable with proper marketing and quality content.

You're forgetting that currently there's a middle man on advertising dollars: the networks. If the leagues went to a direct-to-consumer model where they produced their own subscriber network, all those advertising dollars would go straight to them on top of the fractional portion of folks that are paying a monthly subscription to access the network.

The major leagues are currently bringing in, what, $250 million in media revenue? Heck, that's a piece of cake. Let's just take your 10% of those watching sports at face value, as that is a pretty reasonable estimate; With 120 million households, that gives us roughly 12 million potential subscribers. Split that into five major leagues for simplicity, you're looking at about 2.4 million (though the Big Ten and SEC would obviously have more than the Big 12, for example). Also, though, we should assume some of those 12 million are hardcore fans that would subscribe to multiple channels. Let's round it off to an even 2.5 million, shall we?

To reach $250 million a year, a network would only need to charge $8.33 a month. But that's without ANY advertising factored in. At $5 cpm, which is pretty small for sports programming, the league network could yield $5,000-10,000 apiece for some 90+ 30-second spots that happen in a college football game. That's about a half million in revenue or more per game (the actual networks are bringing in much, much more than that because of higher ratings, so I'm being conservative). For some 100 games in a year, plus all the other basketball, baseball, hockey, recruiting, etc. inventory, they could crack $100 million in ad revenue alone. That means a subscription model could supplement the cable-based model by charging about $5/mo.

It wouldn't be easy, but the idea that leagues could supplement media revenue with a subscription model isn't pie in the sky, either.

The BTN in 2013 only projected $29 million in advertising revenue for the entire year - 60% of which was realized on 14 Saturdays.

That's 33k a DAY for the television network the balance of the year, but online they can generate a half a million a game? With lesser content?

Um ok.

2.5 million subscribers is pie in the sky stuff. Just read this very board and listen to the people who won't pay $10 a month for a suite of stations that includes where UConn games are broadcast.

 

[pj]

The economics of bundling is well understood. People will much more readily buy a bundle than a similar collection of items sold a la carte; and they will end up spending much more on the bundle than on a la carte items.

 

[kyleslamb]

The BTN in 2013 only projected $29 million in advertising revenue for the entire year - 60% of which was realized on 14 Saturdays.

That's 33k a DAY for the television network the balance of the year, but online they can generate a half a million a game? With lesser content?

Um ok.

2.5 million subscribers is pie in the sky stuff. Just read this very board and listen to the people who won't pay $10 a month for a suite of stations that includes where UConn games are broadcast.

It's not pie in the sky stuff. If you took away all games on the networks, there are most certainly 2.5 million people out there that would subscribe to a channel a la carte.

Also, your mentioning BTN is silly. It's apples to oranges. You're conveniently leaving out 40+ of the league's best football games not airing on BTN due to the deal with ESPN/ABC as well as the best basketball games that are on CBS/ESPN. Of course BTN isn't making much in advertising without the league's prime content. ESPN is paying big bucks for those games. You think it might have to do with how much those big ones generate in advertising?

I floated the $100 million in advertising. You mentioned $29 million, but that doesn't include the 40+ best football games and 50+ best basketball games. Yes, naturally, those games are where the biggest ad dollars are hiding.

 

[whaler11]

It's not pie in the sky stuff. If you took away all games on the networks, there are most certainly 2.5 million people out there that would subscribe to a channel a la carte.

Also, your mentioning BTN is silly. It's apples to oranges. You're conveniently leaving out 40+ of the league's best football games not airing on BTN due to the deal with ESPN/ABC as well as the best basketball games that are on CBS/ESPN. Of course BTN isn't making much in advertising without the league's prime content. ESPN is paying big bucks for those games. You think it might have to do with how much those big ones generate in advertising?

I floated the $100 million in advertising. You mentioned $29 million, but that doesn't include the 40+ best football games and 50+ best basketball games. Yes, naturally, those games are where the biggest ad dollars are hiding.

2.5 million subscribers at $8 a month - which is really more like $16 a month since there is nothing on for pretty much half the year is far from a given.

The audiences in that scenario would be nothing like what a network gets. You aren't drawing 7 figure viewership online for Northwestern vs Illinois. So what ESPN can generate in advertising isn't even related.

That's against the current Big Ten payouts: When we hear the projections with the next tier 1 contract we hear something like $40 per school.

So this new model would have to throw off $560 million a year to the schools. Which brings it back to my original point. Without being able to stick millions of subscribers for $6 a month for ESPN, $1 for BTN, whatever FOX gets for FS1 etc
- good luck coming up with a half a billion in profits to distribute a year.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 20h20 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @twojman The B1G have more alumni, but there will be huge numbers of non-alumni SEC fans purchasing subs.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 19h19 hours ago
@mkw_14 @theDudeofWV @twojman no there won't. SEC currently gets lots of unique viewers due to ESPN. They won't with subscriptions

Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 19h19 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @twojman ESPN did not turn the SEC into a ratings monster.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 19h19 hours ago
@mkw_14 @theDudeofWV @twojman CBS national game of the week has made the SEC. ESPN has highlighted it.

Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 19h19 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @twojman The B1G has plenty of nationally televised games on ESPN, ABC, FOX...

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 18h18 hours ago
@mkw_14 @theDudeofWV @twojman the consistency of a national game of the week is a huge marketing advantage that Roy Kramer created

Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 18h18 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @twojman There was a time when ABC & ESPN(before their merger) both favored the B1G.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 17h17 hours ago
@mkw_14 @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @twojman Can't deny it

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8h8 hours ago
@expansion_crush @mkw_14 @NebGradDubDub @twojman If the population model is replaced by an actual interest model?

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 8h8 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @NebGradDubDub @twojman That is called ratings. Ratings eventually holds key to $ in future tv cont

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 7h7 hours ago
@flugempire @theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman look at the no playoff bowl ratings and you will see that the B10 does very well

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 8h8 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @NebGradDubDub @twojman Big 12 has an opening to get into Orlando...make it Big 12 country = >ratings

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire ucf struggles to sell out anything. Anytime gators play in Orlando they can sell every ticket and name the price for those

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball UCF is not 3rd in Orlando. UCF does not have BYU local ratings...but much better than USF-Cincy-Memp-Houston.

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire But again I would disagree, Memphis and cincy have much more support compared to ucf vs UF.Uf is a massive brand in a huge state

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire they're 4th in Orlando. Look at ratings, or look at their attendance and lack of money. They are not a factor, would be like me

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire telling you that adding northern Illinois brings Chicago market. Ucf not a factor, I would argue that usf as good an option

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Look up TV ratings in Orlando for UCF for last 2 years. Compare them to other candidates. UCF on top. I agree to larger pt

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Ohio St. dominates Cincy in tv ratings much more than gators over UCF in Orlando...not even close

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Where do think UT eventually lands in?.....PAC?.....INDY?.....SEC? I would like to get your opinion. Thanks

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire they aren't even on network tv lol. Their biggest rating game will be less than FSU or Miami on a Thursday night

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire I've always thought Texas would end up in B1G. 0 chance sec. I could see pac or acc if they could bring teams and assert control

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire the big 10 is their best option to get their attention back. They're obsessed with power and crave attention from dc and nyc

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire they actually stack up well against most P5 teams. Couldn't find 2014 #'s but here's 2013 pic.twitter.com/JWPtdCGShl

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire below vandy is well? Lol.

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire Vandy also plays a schedule full of SEC teams. UCF is doing it versus Temple, UCONN, etc. Big difference

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @TexasRoundball Those numbers are without the help of being in a P5. You are short selling UCF tv ratings in a hindered environ..

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire you also picked a year when they were in bcs and played sc, psu. And only 6 of 12 were rated

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire @C_Bolanos they got a 0.9 against penn state in Ireland. A 0.9 against byu on Thursday . Meanwhile usf pulled more against uconn

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire You're proving my point. They only played 2 big non conf teams and were top40 in ratings the rest were AAC teams

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire 0.5 against Houston, meanwhile FSU is getting a 3.1. It's triple the viewers, ucf has no market

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire UCF vs Penn State had 1.29 million. 9th most viewers on 2014 opening weekend. It was a 7:30AM kickoff by the way

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire bowl games Ucf/ncst Friday prime time 3.27 Miami/sc Saturday afternoon 4.11 mil UF/ east Carolina sat aft. 4.48 mil

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire yup ucf penn state got the same ratings as Appalachian state Michigan. Chew on that lol

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire look I like ucf, grew up in Orlando, have relatives that are grads. But they do not move the needle in interest

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire that's a national power noon kickoff. Doesn't matter who the opponent is. Chew on this.. pic.twitter.com/3rc69JxlaS

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire check that stat... FSU hammered those ratings check your facts

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire byu played ucf, uconn, Houston, Utah state on Similar time week nights, no significant ratings differences.

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire Idc where u grew up. This isn't 20 years ago. Market is only growing and will get bigger pic.twitter.com/1KyjDEQ067

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire lolol. So why isn't ucf in the sec or acc? Hint no one knows who they are, they don't draw, it's a commuter school

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire as I've said before ucf is maybe 4th in Orlando. Not even a thought elsewhere in Florida.

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire because they are young. You're comparing them to programs that have been around over 100 years

Carlos Bolanos ‏@C_Bolanos 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire whatever you say...

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire FSU hasn't been. It's just not going to happen. Every fan base thinks this. Houston and cincy think it , but you are

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire Houston and cincy. You are usf. They will never have the money, resources and prestige to do it. You are trying to

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire lif the big 12 thinks ucf or usf gets any in Florida,might as well add niu, temple,buffalo to take over the north

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire @C_Bolanos but their power 5 numbers don't compare either. They are in a good spot against similar schools, cincy, usf, memp

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire maps like this are absurd. Florida fans stretch the entire state in the largest numbers. Then FSU, then Miami

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire there is no area where a ucf or usf has as many fans. Even among students at ucf most are gator or Seminole fans

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 4h4 hours ago
@C_Bolanos @flugempire that tells us is that about 4 times as many watched UF play ecu than watched ucf play them and that ncst has juice

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Jason Clerkin ‏@jmclerkin 4h4 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @C_Bolanos @flugempire no point in fighting with the ignorant... This guy clearly has 0 facts if he's calling UCF a commuter

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire guys ucf has 21,000 part time students, 5k more than UF (8k), FSU (6k), and Miami (1200) combined

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire that equals commuter school.

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire Over 1/3 of the ucf student body is part-time. = commuter school, low graduation rates, etc

Jason Clerkin ‏@jmclerkin 3h3 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @C_Bolanos @flugempire lmao okay. And where r u pulling these numbers? When's the last time u even saw UCF?

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire Been about a year now. Stats From their common data sets that the schools report: https://ikm.ucf.edu/files/2013/07/Common-Data-Set-2014-2015.pdf…

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire http://www.ir.ufl.edu/CDS/cds2014-2015.pdf… http://www.ir.fsu.edu/surveys.cfm?ID=common_data… https://umshare.miami.edu/web/wda/planningresearch/CDS1415.pdf…

Jason Clerkin ‏@jmclerkin 3h3 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @C_Bolanos @flugempire just what I thought... no way to show that its a "commuter school" other than your opinion

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire fact that they ucf has more part-time students than most anyone in the country is plenty of commuter proof

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 3h3 hours ago
@jmclerkin @C_Bolanos @flugempire usf another urban commuter school, has 12k part timers, still less % wise than ucf

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h9 hours ago
@expansion_crush @mkw_14 @NebGradDubDub @twojman If the population model is replaced by an actual interest model?

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 8h8 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman yes, and my argument is there is very little interest in the B12 nationally. Small alumni

Texas Roundball‏@TexasRoundball 6h6 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman Big 12 tiny footprint, low fan support,low alumni,worst academics, least money

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 7h7 hours ago
@flugempire Lol Orlando will never be Big 12 anything unless they're adding the Gators. Adding ucf is like adding western Michigan

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
@TexasRoundball But I largely agree with you. UT & OU must have eyes on the exits...but I don't think Big Ten has a chance to acquire UT

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Where do think UT eventually lands in?.....PAC?.....INDY?.....SEC? I would like to get your opinion. Thanks

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire I've always thought Texas would end up in B1G. 0 chance sec. I could see pac or acc if they could bring teams and assert control

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire the big 10 is their best option to get their attention back. They're obsessed with power and crave attention from dc and nyc

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 7h7 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman The Big 12 is dead,no chance to survive.TU and OU have options,rest hello AAC

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 6h6 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman Oklahoma is the one to watch

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 6h6 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @expansion_crush @mkw_14 @twojman Ty finally someone with sense. Ou is the big piece, sec, pac,b1g all want em

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman I think the current Big Ten fan base would've gone nuts with OK & KU

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 5h5 hours ago
@expansion_crush @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman they could still add them to the west

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @expansion_crush @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman Delany could make it happen...Boren is under pressure at OU

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman Oklahoma ' stadium would be filled for every game, and Kansas BB 2

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman BTN wants more east coast eyebals..UVA/VT

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman Blah, he needs to worry about the eyeballs in the rest o the states

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman I don't see vpi as a big ten option. Doesn't give them much

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman We still have a lot of potential growth in existing footprint

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman Virginia will never leave the ACC

Jeff Johnston ‏@twojman 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 please remove me for all that os holy

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @mkw_14 @twojman I think GT is in crosshairs and don't be shocked if FSU or Miami begs to be in

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @flugempire @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman I hope they don't. That would leave expansion in the Midwest.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @NebGradDubDub @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman It needs to stop at 16 so as to not water down the product.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@twojman @TexasRoundball @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 done

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman again..VPI >UVA in tv ratings..VPI has 10 B1G sch for peers

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@expansion_crush @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I don't see any way it stops at 16 for b1g. Maybe 18

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 VPI is ranked higher than a few Big schools in research.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 @twojman VPI is bigger research school...Timothy Sands as pres (Purdue)

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@expansion_crush @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I think they'll get some combo of uconn, unc, gt, FSU, Miami, Texas, ou

Jeff Johnston ‏@twojman 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 stop, I want out, remove my Twitter handle

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 We need to go to 10 Con games and stop at 16. 2 ooc games against p5

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 but what does either Virginia school bring? Esp. vpi buried in mountains

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 Rabid fan base and good all around athletics, high research.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 Virgin Conference network country. Think NJ with Rutgers. Money

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@expansion_crush @flugempire @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 that rabid base would be mid to bottom of sec. Adding Hampton/Richmond <

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 they already have dc, it's a large double down overlap for a mid level team

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I think unc is tough to pry bc of hoops.Ncst, clem,gt,FSU more valuable imo

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 No they don't. Can't get BTN on basic coverage while charging $1 in VA

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 Plus Big Ten Presidents are very aware of the rise of VPI research

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire @TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I would argue annual games with NE and Texas would increase TV package

Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 5h5 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @flugempire @TexasRoundball @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 you gotta think that Delaney still wants UNC

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @NebGradDubDub @flugempire @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I just don't see unc basketball leaving acc

Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 5h5 hours ago
@TexasRoundball @NebGradDubDub @flugempire @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 perhaps but I'm sure he would like to have them.

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @NebGradDubDub @flugempire @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 for sure they'd kill to get Carolina

Texas Roundball ‏@TexasRoundball 5h5 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @NebGradDubDub @flugempire @expansion_crush @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 I just think acc is positioned as a ball league

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 5h5 hours ago
OmegaSupreme914 @NebGradDubDub @flugempire @TexasRoundball @theDudeofWV @mkw_14 Delaney AKA Captain Ahab

 

[Husky25]

Can someone just "bottom line" that diarrhea of the keyboard?

 

[CTMike]

Is there a TL;DR version?

 

[whaler11]

Can someone just "bottom line" that diarrhea of the keyboard?

Some poor guy named Jeff Johnson had his cellphone blown up by Dood, The Flug and Texas Roundball.

There was a disagreement about the value of UCF and if VPI or Carolina would leave the ACC.

Bout it.

 

[dayooper]

Is there a TL;DR version?

Ok, what I deciphered, I think.

Texas Guy thinks UCF is a commuter school and is useless, UCF people disagree.

Texas Guy thinks B12 is a goner, Texas will eventually be in Big10, gives them what they want as far exposure in NYC and DC. Never go to SEC and the only way they would go with ACC is if they could bring enough friend to have power.

Some guy thinks OU is the big prize because they could go to SEC, PAC, or Big10. Thinks they might move because Boren (OU pres) is under pressure.

Flugs says VPI is big, Texas Guy Disagrees.

Some idiot thinks Northern Illinois would bring Chicago.

 

[huskyniner]

@jpl04002 27s27 seconds ago
Hi @BigTenNetwork RT @ESPNRachel: ESPN2 avgs 1,136,000 viewers for @UConnWBB over @GamecockWBB, net's highest reg-season wbb game since 2010

(Non-key tweet, as that's me)

 

[Kolumbo]

Ok, what I deciphered, I think.

Texas Guy thinks UCF is a commuter school and is useless, UCF people disagree.

Texas Guy thinks B12 is a goner, Texas will eventually be in Big10, gives them what they want as far exposure in NYC and DC. Never go to SEC and the only way they would go with ACC is if they could bring enough friend to have power.

Some guy thinks OU is the big prize because they could go to SEC, PAC, or Big10. Thinks they might move because Boren (OU pres) is under pressure.

Flugs says VPI is big, Texas Guy Disagrees.

Some idiot thinks Northern Illinois would bring Chicago.

Well, if Northern Illinois changed its name to Illinois State...

 

[nd73]

Well, if Northern Illinois changed its name to Illinois State...

University of Chicago of Northern Illinois is what they need to brand themselves as