No, not TJ
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Husky25
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My guess is that Coach Weist does not get an interview. If he does, it will be for show only. I'll be willing to be that he will meet with Mr. Manuel next Sunday or Monday, at which point he will be told the direction the program is heading. During this meeting, Mr. Manuel will tell him the new Coach will have the opportunity to fill his own staff, but he will put in a good word on Weist's behalf as the offensive coordinator.
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Srqhusky said:
That's just what you want to be true.
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The entire case for Weist:
6 quarters against bad teams
He's here
Note you don't see a lot of chatter about schools that might want him if he ends up available.
It's so small minded and short sighted as to be painful but I'll try and let it go because I can't imagine Warde could blow this that badly.
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Srqhusky said:
Oh, we've all seen it. Some of us just aren't as impressed by it.
It's not like we've come close to what Ed O has done at USC. He's 50% to get that job and only because Sumlin re-upped at A&M.
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TJ has been here less than a year, and many of us still think he was Warde's hire not P's. Not sure why he is considered more of the same.
Dave Clawson appears to be a top candidate, my gut tells me that TJ is just as good as Clawson. After Lembo and Narduzzi I think our realistic candidate pool falls down in quality quickly.
If TJ were hired for less than a million per year and we used the money saved on the head coach to allow TJ to bring in top coordinators etc., I think TJ could build a good staff and it wouldn't be the same old thing.
I want Warde to interview all of the candidates, after the interview rounds are over with I want Warde to go with his gut, If TJ ends up being the guy I'm fine with it. It's Warde's call.
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I think he'll get an interview but mostly as a courtesy. He has done some nice things and he's a good guy but he isn't the guy you want leading the program at this point. We'll see who is available and when, but my guess is that by December 15 we have a new coach named.
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Here's the real reason why Weist should not be given the job, even though he's shown skill, talent and promise in turning around the season and our morale:
We can't afford to be wrong on this one.
The margin for error is so narrow that we have to get out there and make a decently sized splash with our next hire, either with a top-name coordinator or with a lower-level rising-star head coach. Weist could be a very good coach some day, but he might not. The sample size of his results is too small, and his performance is too inconclusive, for us to gamble the farm on him at this point.
We can't afford to be wrong on this one.
The margin for error is so narrow that we have to get out there and make a decently sized splash with our next hire, either with a top-name coordinator or with a lower-level rising-star head coach. Weist could be a very good coach some day, but he might not. The sample size of his results is too small, and his performance is too inconclusive, for us to gamble the farm on him at this point.
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This pretty much sums it up. I believe, based on just observing the guy and the way he handles his players, that he will be a good head coach once he improves his game management skills. But there is way too much uncertainty here . . .
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Look at Maryland, they had James Franklin on their staff but they went with the splash hire in Edsall. Franklin is better.
Look at Franklin's resume prior to taking over Vanderbilt and it is somewhat similar to TJ's.
If our top two or three get other offers and turn Warde down, I'm fine with TJ. I doubt TJ will be the top choice, but you don't always get your top choice.
Look at Franklin's resume prior to taking over Vanderbilt and it is somewhat similar to TJ's.
If our top two or three get other offers and turn Warde down, I'm fine with TJ. I doubt TJ will be the top choice, but you don't always get your top choice.
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Warde despite his Michigan resume, has not done much for UConn. Kevin Ollie was forced on him by JC. He could have done with PP a lot sooner but he didn't. What else did he do for UConn besides changing the logo?
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Despite what the unsophisticated reactionaries say, the Ollie situation was handled perfectly.
Yes, he could have fired P after last year. Maybe 10% of ADs make that decision at that time, so I won't criticize too much. It would have been nice to see him be more proactive, however.
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Honestly with the Ollie hiring......he managed to navigate the political waters, keep his autonomy, and ended up hiring the right guy. It was an impossible spot, but he pulled it off. Look at the disaster that RU hired.
Hey, I would've canned P at the end of last year, but I get why he didn't. The good news is that the job search began sometime in the 2nd half against Towson. He has to get this right. Just has to.
Hey, I would've canned P at the end of last year, but I get why he didn't. The good news is that the job search began sometime in the 2nd half against Towson. He has to get this right. Just has to.
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I think that what you hear of and/or from the athletic director, is indirectly related to the job he is doing. On the other hand, Mr. Manuel seemed to have more on his plate than the run of the mill 1st year AD.
Over the span of 20 months since his hiring, he's has had to fill 3 head coaching positions and is looking at a fourth. All the while he has filled the football schedule with competition perceived as more than marginally better than Buffalo, obtained appropriations for the basketball training facility (Something the previous AD could not do), presided over a perfect APR for a team banned from post season play due directly to APR issues and presided over a national championship, while being in contention for another. Oh, and he unified logos across all Athletic sports teams.
Just because UConn was not invited to the Big Ten (yet, but I believe this is the goal...and attainable, give academics) or the ACC (consolation prize at this point), he is a failure, without realizing that this decision is largely out of his hands and above his pay grade.
All fair points, and you always run the risk of Kragthorping when you hire the rising star. I just don't think the program, our fan base or our recruits will respond favorably to keeping Weist, even if we blow Memphis out by 50.
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It's recruiting. Anyone who takes out MD and puts LM in at running back on 1st and goal and has him as punt returner and kickoff returner is not the personnel evaluator that gives me confidence. If TJW ends up being the pick, it won't be because the Rock Star didn't check out who was available or money issues, it will be because he sees actions/improvement/ability that as a long distance fan am not privy to in TJW. If that's the case, ok. See more downside than upside for WM in picking TJW than going for one of several candidates so if he does pick TJW it won't be a WVU type case with DickRod leaving nor with the PP hire.
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Lemelle bailed them out with that catch. If we ended up losing, I had an entire rant ready for why they ran LM 2 times from the 3.
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That was a great catch, but like you, I was screaming for Delorenzo to get goal line carries in that spot.
TJ has done an admiral job and been decent lately.
However, we need a slam dunk. While our rivals are paying big bucks to lure in top coaching candidates, we can't go cheap and hire the guy one year removed from being Cinci's WR coach.
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Outside of Saban, Miles, and Meyer, there is no such thing as a slam dunk.
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Let's take an objective look at the 8 games of the TJ era. Before the season, the reasonable prediction was beating USF and Temple and Memphis and pick off SMU or UCF on the road for a 6-6 or 7-5 season depending on the MD game. A few optimists saw a 8-4 or 9-3 record as a possibility by upsetting UL, Cincy, or RU when people thought they might be good. So to recap, the consensus range for the final conference record was 4 to 6 conference wins. We'll have three at best.
If you want to give a pass for USF due to transition, bad FG kicking, fine. That still the bottom of the range. TJ showed some potential as a first year OC if you believe PP/GDL held him back (I do) and was able hold it together to avoid an 0-12 season. The on-field perfomance doesn't mean much in the overall selection process, but I suspect his behind the scenes work will earn him a fair interview. He's solidified his position as an up and coming young coach, even if he doesn't get the gig, this year has been a positive for his career. No, need to shed any tears for him. There is a decent chance he and Foley are retained by the new coach for continuity. The others should be working on resumes.
If you want to give a pass for USF due to transition, bad FG kicking, fine. That still the bottom of the range. TJ showed some potential as a first year OC if you believe PP/GDL held him back (I do) and was able hold it together to avoid an 0-12 season. The on-field perfomance doesn't mean much in the overall selection process, but I suspect his behind the scenes work will earn him a fair interview. He's solidified his position as an up and coming young coach, even if he doesn't get the gig, this year has been a positive for his career. No, need to shed any tears for him. There is a decent chance he and Foley are retained by the new coach for continuity. The others should be working on resumes.
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This is an untrue assertion based on Warde Manuel's press conference the day he released Former "Coach" Pasqualoni from his duties. Mr. Manuel was asked flat out what Coach Weist had to do to be considered for the permanent position. His response was an unconditional, "Win."
I think Weist's fate was sealed with the execution of the Parker consulting contract. He will be thanked for his services in a virtual no-win situation and dismissed as head coach. I further believe (as I stated above), that Mr. Manuel will put in a good word with the new coach on Weist's behalf as an offensive coach, up to and including the position of coordinator.
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Thought his UConn Hockey Coach hire was more than solid...
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OK, there are better choices than TJ ( half court shot).
Everybody keeps pointing out Saban, Meyer etc.
There exists an area between hall of fame coaches and guys with 6 good quarters.
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Let's not forget, Tj was not a coordinator at a big program before UConn. He was the WR coach at Cincy. He has had one disastrous year as a lead coordinator in a FBS program. Franklin had much more experience.
I like him....I think he is a good person and could be a great coach. But he isn't the right guy for UConn at this time. Not a bad choice as OC maybe, but definitely tier 3 as a HC.
I like him....I think he is a good person and could be a great coach. But he isn't the right guy for UConn at this time. Not a bad choice as OC maybe, but definitely tier 3 as a HC.
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If I were the new UConn head coach, he isn't even the first guy I'd consider keeping. Anybody noticed the improvement of the offensive line since Foley returned to that duty? Anybody seen how well the kid replacing Friend has played? I would give Foley serious consideration. After that, I'm not sure.
Exactly. Ideally, if it can be accomplished, the next guy has to have sex appeal that is perceived as being a sign that UCONN is serious about football. Again, UCONN has been a multiply passed-over college FB pariah since qualifying for a BCS game. UCONN is about to hire a person the New York Times has argued might be the "most important person on a college campus" (Academicians, please direct your ire at the NYT, not me.). We need the hire to elicit a "holy sh't" or, at least, an "OMG." From the outside, looking in, it seems that TJ has handled a difficult situation with professionalism, dignity and class. But, most of us figured that it would take seven or eight wins to make him a serious candidate. The record is the record.
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We don't need a Holy or OMG pick - we just need...
... or at least one that is universally acknowledged by their peers as solid.
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Not sure how TJ ended up here but don't think that it was PP's brainstorm Having said that, the mere coincidence of TJ coming here and replacing PP half way through the season makes me believe that he is Warde's hire here as OC. An in inquisitive mind would think that there is something more to this story. Not sure he ends up coach, but I have to believe that he is not ruled out.
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