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No Full Contact High School Football in CT this year...

I certainly wouldn’t promise anyone a full season, but I think there is room here to start a season. They could play games every other week with schedules based on keeping schools in pods (teams only play each other) coupled with some sort of protocols for testing/ tracing/recovery and with some understanding that if a town or county has spike over a certain TBD percentage of the population over a [10 day] period they will have to suspend that team or implement enhanced testing.
 
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Can anyone here cite the current limitation on group events in CT?

There is your answer on FB. Youth FB is not worth another potential outbreak that will force potentially thousands of people to get sick, lose their source if income, suffer longer term health consequences or even death.

My advice is to grow up and think like responsible adults. Is there some hypocrisy regarding youth sports, sure is. That's not an excuse to add more dumb things to the to do list.
 
SubbaBub said:
Can anyone here cite the current limitation on group events in CT?

There is your answer on FB. Youth FB is not worth another potential outbreak that will force potentially thousands of people to get sick, lose their source if income, suffer longer term health consequences or even death.

My advice is to grow up and think like responsible adults. Is there some hypocrisy regarding youth sports, sure is. That's not an excuse to add more dumb things to the to do list.
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Ah the tyranny of the 'never-evers' - are you also leading the charge to disband live school? Across this state we have about 500k kids now attending live school instruction again. The schools have made great efforts to reduce circulation, create spacing, enhance cleaning, etc. Could it fail? Maybe...might even fail spectacularly... but we have to try first because it also just might work and work better than April-May-June's full distance learning environment where many kids got left behind. Point is- there is room to try in a responsible way.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Ah the tyranny of the 'never-evers' - are you also leading the charge to disband live school? Across this state we have about 500k kids now attending live school instruction again. The schools have made great efforts to reduce circulation, create spacing, enhance cleaning, etc. Could it fail? Maybe...might even fail spectacularly... but we have to try first because it also just might work and work better than April-May-June's full distance learning environment where many kids get left behind. Point is- there is room to try in a responsible way.
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In person schooling while problematic without an adequate testing and quarantine regime, is a far cry from youth football.

We also still go to work and grocery stores.

Like I said, grow up.
 
SubbaBub said:
In person schooling while problematic without an adequate testing and quarantine regime, is a far cry from youth football.

We also still go to work and grocery stores.

Like I said, grow up.
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After witnessing my kid's first two days of public school in fall 2020 there is actually not as much difference between live public school and youth football as you would like to think there is. My kids are getting exposure to about 60 to 80 people daily now. Youth football would certainly be higher, but not by leaps and bounds.

If you have a hard line on football, you better take the same position on basketball or else you will need to "Grow Up." In the meantime, some people want to try things and trying things doesn't mean they are stupid.
 
With live public school now underway, seems like if you are going to try football we might as well set the start up for around 10/1, do 1 game every two weeks through mid December and play 6 games. Maybe have a single championship game for the top two using a formula or ranking.
 
To borrow a quote from another thread... please stop w/ the pure partisan/political sniping.
temery said:
This thread is not a debate about COVID-19 nor how the gov is dealing with the pandemic. Take it to the cesspool. I'm tired of cleaning up after the same people hijacking threads in the sports forums.
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SubbaBub said:
In person schooling while problematic without an adequate testing and quarantine regime, is a far cry from youth football.

We also still go to work and grocery stores.

Like I said, grow up.
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Indeed. Football, since it is outside, is safer.
 
Exit 4 said:
After witnessing my kid's first two days of public school in fall 2020 there is actually not as much difference between live public school and youth football as you would like to think there is. My kids are getting exposure to about 60 to 80 people daily now. Youth football would certainly be higher, but not by leaps and bounds.

If you have a hard line on football, you better take the same position on basketball or else you will need to "Grow Up." In the meantime, some people want to try things and trying things doesn't mean they are stupid.
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Kids need an education they don't need to play youth football. That's a difference, regardless of how poorly they are executing a haphazard and inadequate plan for in-person learning.

In theory, you can isolate 25 kids and their teacher in a classroom during the day with minimum interactions from other staff only as necessary. You can test them regularly, alternating in-person and remote learning to contain potential out breaks. Having kids breakout of those bubbles to intermingle then return to their bubbles is problematic and completely unnecessary.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Kids need an education they don't need to play youth football. That's a difference, regardless of how poorly they are executing a haphazard and inadequate plan for in-person learning.

In theory, you can isolate 25 kids and their teacher in a classroom during the day with minimum interactions from other staff only as necessary. You can test them regularly, alternating in-person and remote learning to contain potential out breaks. Having kids breakout of those bubbles to intermingle then return to their bubbles is problematic and completely unnecessary.
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Welp, you obviously know nothing about how a modern high or middle school education works. Kids dont have one teacher all day, instead they have about 5 to 8 (math, science, history, writing, language, elective, gym and some take music). And then like it or not, kids grade out to at least three levels from advanced to remedial which you need to account for as well. The administrators are doing the best they can to put kids in pools to limit mass interaction, but the reality is they are in pools of about 60 to 120 kids not 25. And then you have the teachers and support admin, some of whom have to teach specialty subjects across these new pods, albeit they limit it as best as possible. All in all, at the medium and large high and middle schools the kids are already mixing in pools of humanity on a scale near what football operates.

As for need, frankly we dont need a lot of things. Look around.
 
Thinking about this more - the solutions oriented idea would be to require the football players to take the distance learning option, which I think is pretty much an option offered at all HS this fall, during the football season.
 
Exit 4 said:
Thinking about this more - the solutions oriented idea would be to require the football players to take the distance learning option, which I think is pretty much an option offered at all HS this fall, during the football season.
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Not necessarily. We have been having football practice for a month where I am at and there hasn't been any interruptions.

Games start next Friday.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Not necessarily. We have been having football practice for a month where I am at and there hasn't been any interruptions.

Games start next Friday.
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Yeah, well maybe. Unlike some, I'm looking for solutions.

The next 30-45 days will be interesting now that public school has restarted in CT. Of course public school restarted in many other states weeks ago, so looking elsewhere at youth numbers might be telling.
 
Exit 4 said:
Welp, you obviously know nothing about how a modern high or middle school education works. Kids dont have one teacher all day, instead they have about 5 to 8 (math, science, history, writing, language, elective, gym and some take music). And then like it or not, kids grade out to at least three levels from advanced to remedial which you need to account for as well. The administrators are doing the best they can to put kids in pools to limit mass interaction, but the reality is they are in pools of about 60 to 120 kids not 25. And then you have the teachers and support admin, some of whom have to teach specialty subjects across these new pods, albeit they limit it as best as possible. All in all, at the medium and large high and middle schools the kids are already mixing in pools of humanity on a scale near what football operates.

As for need, frankly we dont need a lot of things. Look around.
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Welp, obviously you don't understand how communicable diseases and 8th grade math work. Having kids roam between classes is a poor decision during a pandemic. Having kids in a scrum breathing heavily is worse with far less social value. Two wrongs don't make a right and I don't care what Jimmy's mom says are 3rd grade level idioms. Maybe more people will understand that. I'll skip logarithmic growth for now.

Your priorities are out of whack.
 
SubbaBub said:
Welp, obviously you don't understand how communicable diseases and 8th grade math work. Having kids roam between classes is a poor decision during a pandemic. Having kids in a scrum breathing heavily is worse with far less social value. Two wrongs don't make a right and I don't care what Jimmy's mom says are 3rd grade level idioms. Maybe more people will understand that. I'll skip logarithmic growth for now.

Your priorities are out of whack.
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Watching sports tonight or too disgusted?

This isn’t even my priority... my kids don’t play football.

I’m making the argument for the 1200 kids, parents and coaches that went to Hartford on Wednesday. High school football is not really my thing at all.

What I am pushing back is against are the zealots...zealots that have their slice of life under COVid and don’t really think about ways to make things work for others.

I’d be quick to pull the plug if things went awry.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Watching sports tonight or too disgusted?
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Only 1 Chief took a knee the Texans stayed in locker room for anthem and there are fans in the stands. The mob will be out in full force tomorrow.
 
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"Gifford notes there’s limited data on the effectiveness of the strategies CIAC presented."

Isn't that just a nice way of saying these jamokes don't know what they are talking about?
 
Waquoit said:
"Gifford notes there’s limited data on the effectiveness of the strategies CIAC presented."

Isn't that just a nice way of saying these jamokes don't know what they are talking about?
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I think it's more like they're admitting it's all a SWAG.
 
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So they got a nicely worded letter politely asking for scientific data on plastic face shields. At least it was prompt, respectful and encouraging of further discussion. Unfortunately for CT high school football looks like that data will have to come other states from the very season they cannot play. In a few weeks it will be time to shift the discussion to saving a possible spring season even if many dont want it. The window for a fall season is rapidly coming to a close.
 
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