NIL issues

[HooperScooper]

People on here have brought up the issue of players being jealous of each other's NIL packages and it causing internal chemistry issues. Cetainly a concern.

Another issue will be when the school doesn't live up to their NIL promises. So when does this issue impact college basketball? What schools will be guilty of this?

UNLV starting quarterback Matthew Sluka said he will not play any more games this season for the undefeated Rebels, citing "certain representations" not being upheld by the program.

"I committed to UNLV based on certain representations that were made to me, which were not upheld after I enrolled," Sluka posted on X. "Despite discussions, it became clear that these commitments would not be fulfilled in the future. I wish my teammates the best of luck this season and hope for the continued success of the program."

QB Matthew Sluka to exit UNLV, says 'representations' not upheld

UNLV starting quarterback Matthew Sluka announced Tuesday night on social media that he will not play in any more games this season.

www.espn.com

 

[GemParty]

Business cuts both ways. No longer amateurs, just kids growing up fa$t.

 

[HooperScooper]

 

[RuffRuff]

Time to get multi year contracts going where the school owns up to their end, and no more transferring whenever you want. Ninkumpoopery.

 

[How Sway?!]

Bad bad look on all sides.

Bad on Sulka and his agent for not getting the agreement in writing

Bad on UNLV coaches who lose recruiring credibility if a promise by the OC can't be trusted

Bad on the UNLV collective for not being able to put up $100k for your starting QB when you have a good shot at the CFP

 

[NJHusky]

Will be interesting when the QB of a team in the NC game decides he's going to sit out to "preserve his draft status" unless he gets another 2-3 Mil before the game!

 

[ec33]

If my agent didn't understand that coaches cannot make that commitment, only collectives can, then I would be wondering just exactly what my agent was doing.

Florida screwing Jaden Rashada in the early days of NIL and players acquiring agents should have ended these kinds of things.

 

[temery]

$100k doesn't sound like much for a quality player. I doubt that that was even the going rate when they weren't allowed to be paid.

 

[lateralous]

NIL is literally the Wild West right now.

 

[LandOtter]

There seems to be some belief that another school liked what they saw out of him through the first few weeks, and offered him a much more lucrative NIL promise for next season if he agreed to sit and red shirt.

Will be difficult to prove, if true. However, with no concrete rules in place, this kind of maneuver could become an unfortunate byproduct of the NIL era.

 

[UCTitleTown]

I liked college sports much better when it was just an envelope in a player's locker or a no-show job at a car dealership.

 

[UCHuskies08]

I liked college sports much better when it was just an envelope in a player's locker or a no-show job at a car dealership.

Ahh, the good ol' days

 

[Gutter King]

UNLV just needs to pay this if they think they actually have a team. They will make their money back if they continue to win, and they also will profit the sooner the story goes away.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Bad bad look on all sides.

Bad on Sulka and his agent for not getting the agreement in writing

Bad on UNLV coaches who lose recruiring credibility if a promise by the OC can't be trusted

Bad on the UNLV collective for not being able to put up $100k for your starting QB when you have a good shot at the CFP

When I initially heard this story it sounded like the agent came into the picture after the season started.

Incidentally this kid has 21 completions in three games at a 43% clip, he’s not exactly Arch Manning.

 

[McLovin]

Seeing how NCAA rules are supposed to prohibit coaches from guaranteeing NIL, this kid may be SOL if the guarantee came from the staff and not the collective.

Coaches are only allowed to talk NIL in general terms “QBs who come here typically make 100K” not specific terms “if you come here we’ll pay you 100k” per the rule of the NCAA.

 

[Kenny11]

I liked college sports much better when it was just an envelope in a player's locker or a no-show job at a car dealership.

C’mon. They showed up once in a while lol

 

[UConnJim]

It's unfortunate that the story facts dripped out and people on social media ran with their thoughts on the issue. According to Sluka's agent, NIL contracts are not signed until you are enrolled at a school. Sluka stayed at Holy Cross last spring to finish his degree and graduate. When he arrived at UNLV for fall practice, he and his agent asked for an NIL contract, but got the runaround. They even tried to negotiate down the NIL promise, but UNLV basically wanted to offer $3k/month over 4 months or $12k instead of the $100k promise mad by the Offensive Coordinator.

In my view, UNLV and their collective are at fault, not the kid and his agent.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Probably a great life lesson for this young man for when he gets into the real world.

Like when you’re on a company call and the the CEO, CFO or whoever just gushes about how great the company numbers are, how we exceeded expectations, beat all estimates, etc, but then a few months later when bonus time comes around and the discussion becomes well we actually didn’t do THAT well….so don’t expect much.

 

[AllHusky]

I liked college sports much better when it was just an envelope in a player's locker or a no-show job at a car dealership.

Joe Theisman VP at local bank

 

[UCTitleTown]

Probably a great life lesson for this young man for when he gets into the real world.

Like when you’re on a company call and the the CEO, CFO or whoever just gushes about how great the company numbers are, how we exceeded expectations, beat all estimates, etc, but then a few months later when bonus time comes around and the discussion becomes well we actually didn’t do THAT well….so don’t expect much.

Or you take a job based on salary without knowing they only match 1.5% on 401K and medical insurance premiums cost twice what you paid at the job you left. Get it in writing.

 

[HooperScooper]

Seeing how NCAA rules are supposed to prohibit coaches from guaranteeing NIL, this kid may be SOL if the guarantee came from the staff and not the collective.

Coaches are only allowed to talk NIL in general terms “QBs who come here typically make 100K” not specific terms “if you come here we’ll pay you 100k” per the rule of the NCAA.

There are NCAA rules surrounding NIL? Doesn't seem like it! Lol

 

[UCTitleTown]

There are NCAA rules surrounding NIL? Doesn't seem like it! Lol

Imagine, UNLV actually following rules! Tark must be rolling over in his grave.

 

[McLovin]

Imagine, UNLV actually following rules! Tark must be rolling over in his grave.

No one said they are following any rules, just using them to their advantage lol

 

[HooperScooper]

Oh this will become an issue in college basketball also. Interesting quotes from agents representing players. Worth a read.

"I think the biggest misconception is that there's so much money out there," said Marc Hsu, a former DePaul and Western Kentucky assistant who is now the VP for the agency Verus Basketball. "There's not. There are a few schools that have a handful of money and it's not what people think schools have. For example, one school is two million dollars over what they've committed to on that roster. They thought they were going to get donations from people, but it didn't come in. There's not all this money that everyone thinks.

"Most Power Five basketball collectives are between $2.5 and $4 million on the average. Do the math, if you have 13 scholarship guys, that's about $300,000 each. Some guys get $600,000, some guys get $900,000. That's not as much as everyone thinks is out there."

College basketball braces for a fiasco of its own in the wake of UNLV QB Matthew Sluka quitting team midseason

A player quitting the team in the middle of an undefeated season is unprecedented, but multiple NIL agents shared accounts of similar financial promises not being kept behind the scenes in college basketball.

www.cbssports.com

 

[HooperScooper]

Oh this will become an issue in college basketball also. Interesting quotes from agents representing players. Worth a read.

"I think the biggest misconception is that there's so much money out there," said Marc Hsu, a former DePaul and Western Kentucky assistant who is now the VP for the agency Verus Basketball. "There's not. There are a few schools that have a handful of money and it's not what people think schools have. For example, one school is two million dollars over what they've committed to on that roster. They thought they were going to get donations from people, but it didn't come in. There's not all this money that everyone thinks.

"Most Power Five basketball collectives are between $2.5 and $4 million on the average. Do the math, if you have 13 scholarship guys, that's about $300,000 each. Some guys get $600,000, some guys get $900,000. That's not as much as everyone thinks is out there."

College basketball braces for a fiasco of its own in the wake of UNLV QB Matthew Sluka quitting team midseason

A player quitting the team in the middle of an undefeated season is unprecedented, but multiple NIL agents shared accounts of similar financial promises not being kept behind the scenes in college basketball.

www.cbssports.com

You should read this article. Very interesting. All kinds of issues will come up because of NIL.

Who is UConn's NIL collective director?

"Bad collective directors are the most dangerous thing to a success of a program. Imagine you're a head coach at a high-major school, you've worked so hard to build relationships with agents, AAU coaches, players and build a reputation, and there's some guy who you didn't hire and has a big ego and he's trying to battle agents over details that don't matter. This guy is undermining the ability of the program to recruit top players. I've seen one collective where the top guy got fired because he was being such a pain in the ass to me. I'd had it. And they were like, 'If you're taking this power that we gave you and undermined our ability to recruit more great players in the future, then you're doing more harm than good.'"

 

[HooperScooper]

The president of the NCAA lashed out at "evidence of dysfunction in today's NIL environment" while reiterating his desire to see Congress create national guidelines to shape so-called name, image and likeness endorsement deals that are reshaping college sports.

Dysfunction? You don't say?! I know a lot of this is because of the courts but it seems only the NCAA could ---- something up so badly.

NCAA's Charlie Baker urges Congress to act amid NIL 'dysfunction'

NCAA president Charlie Baker urged Congress to create national guidelines amid what he called "evidence of dysfunction in today's NIL environment."

www.espn.com

 

[djct1999]

This happens all the time. Coaches throw numbers out there that a recruit wants to hear. Many of them don’t see anything close to what is promised. I am just shocked it’s taken this long for an athlete to push back. Good for him. I don’t know anything about the situation, but even with that, I would comfortably bet the coach at unlv promised 100k.

 

[Kitaman]

I still wonder how a 20 year old football senior whose assignment is to block, feels about a freshman coming into school driving a Mercedes Benz, and expects you to help him secure more. Or a Junior with an uncertain future sees a freshman kid walk in to first team practice having already earned a years salary.

I originally thought the NIL money would be pooled into a pot for all to share.

 

[mussels]

I still wonder how a 20 year old football senior whose assignment is to block, feels about a freshman coming into school driving a Mercedes Benz, and expects you to help him secure more. Or a Junior with an uncertain future sees a freshman kid walk in to first team practice having already earned a years salary.

I originally thought the NIL money would be pooled into a pot for all to share.

that why the first rule of NIL is ..

 

[Mazhude]

The hidden NIL economy of college sports

"Three main marketplaces emerge. Athletes earn money from corporate brands paying for their endorsement, from sales of merchandise and signed memorabilia and from booster-led NIL collectives. Collectives often pay de facto salaries in exchange for various services, such as charity work or meet and greets. Most of the biggest single payments came from corporations, which pay typically based on social media clout...

With brands paying for marketing potential, players with robust online engagement naturally can out-earn teammates who outperform them in games. LSU men’s basketball player Trace Young, for instance, played a total of two minutes last season. But with more than 350,000 followers across social media platforms, he scored endorsement deals that enabled him to gift all of his teammates with electric scooters each worth around $1,000, according to two of his teammates. (LSU provided only aggregated data, not information about individual deals.)

Shelomi Sanders, the daughter of Colorado football coach Deion Sanders, played 11 minutes for the Colorado women’s basketball team last season. But she had nearly 700,000 followers across TikTok and Instagram, where she posted ads for Marriott and Meta. The school’s NIL records show that a women’s basketball player signed deals with those companies that added up to $42,500. That’s 42 percent of the total NIL income disclosed by last season’s team, which reached the Sweet 16..."