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Nice job building the culture Danny

Hard to say that right now since we’ve lost SEVEN players off our team from last year and so far replaced them with ONE. And with oodles of guard minutes available, ALL of our returning scholarship guards have decided to transfer.

Are you people for real?? This doesn’t concern anyone???
It’s legit not hard to say this at all.

I’m saying the track record year to year is we’ve been better. Let it play out. Because we’ve continually got better, they at least earned the right to build their roster before judgment.

Again, no one is saying transfers are good, but the world isn’t burning
 
Where did you see that he’s reclassifying?? And even if he is, so what?? How does that scare away another top rated guard when we have no one else on the roster and the coach was just singing his praises a week ago??
It's in a separate thread however if true that would be a significant bump in talent level at a key position needed for the future. Some would say the most important position. We haven't had an elite guard on paper since Adams and Napier / Boatright before that. It's been quite a while. Elite guard play used to be a signature for the UCONN's men's program.
 
By the end of Gaffney’s freshman year he was starting and the Boneyard loved his upside. Only to never actually invest in it. Those guys got NBA minutes because they were coached and developed to do so. Outside of Kemba none of those guys were burger boys. They got better every year consistently. Every single guard because there was a plan for them. Hurley has not shown that he has a true plan to develop guys yet.

According to Hurley Gaffney had all the talent in the world too. He showed it in flashes, it was all mental with him. Which could be a result of not managing him the right way. Gaffney did nothing wrong his freshman year to be recruited over and not have the reigns handed to him.

All this to say I’m still not out on Hurley. I just hope he learns his lesson in investing in his players or else the portal is going to became our best recruiting source.
I hear you to a degree.

Who is the recruit though that Hurley brought in & recruited over Gaff after his freshman year?
 
cant pass judgment until the roster is set for next season. the way i'm looking at it for now is that 5 of the bottom 6 players on the team are transferring.

this happens at kentucky every year. people were saying hurley was too loyal, well be careful what you wish for. if we get newton, ramey, castle, and two depth pieces the offseason will have been a huge success in my book and everyone can eat crow.
Wish we had Kentucky's problem of loading up on 7 stars and having high 4 star recruits transfer out. One can dream.
 
By the end of Gaffney’s freshman year he was starting and the Boneyard loved his upside. Only to never actually invest in it. Those guys got NBA minutes because they were coached and developed to do so. Outside of Kemba none of those guys were burger boys. They got better every year consistently. Every single guard because there was a plan for them. Hurley has not shown that he has a true plan to develop guys yet.

According to Hurley Gaffney had all the talent in the world too. He showed it in flashes, it was all mental with him. Which could be a result of not managing him the right way. Gaffney did nothing wrong his freshman year to be recruited over and not have the reigns handed to him.

All this to say I’m still not out on Hurley. I just hope he learns his lesson in investing in his players or else the portal is going to became our best recruiting source.

Gaff was completely overrated by many on the Boneyard his freshman year based only on the fact he made less mistakes than AG who many began to dislike. He had a couple of flashes of good games but by no means was he anything more than solid, couldn’t defend and way too much East West offense. Vital got hot as hell and made many weaknesses on the team fade. They had to find better talent to compete at a higher level entering the Big East there was nothing he ever showed to believe otherwise. Holding pat last year while leaving Cole as our only go to definitely hurt.
 
Granted, this is totally your baseless armchair psychoanalysis but your conclusion is that Gaffney didn't get enough of an opportunity to succeed here? Really? It "rubbed him the wrong way" that he was "outside of Hurley world looking in"? If anything Hurley was overly loyal to Gaffney to the detriment of the team. That is, frankly, an absurd conclusion based on the available evidence.

And I'm legitimately curious where you get the idea that he doesn't "apply" the culture of "hard work, dedication and commitment" to Jackson and Sanogo, two guys whose work ethics are pretty well-regarded. Is this based on anything or are you just typing stuff to say it? Could it be that they were just better than Gaffney and Diggins?

You really enjoy going out of your way to berate people and puff your chest, don’t you? Please tell me where I wrote that Hurley didn’t give Gaffney enough of an opportunity. Take a reading comprehension test and come back and see me. Take a reading comprehension test and come back and see me. You really are an incorrigible bully and blowhard on this board.
 
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Hurley homers are like Brian Cashman homers. Yankee fans who settle for mediocrity.
 
Keep attacking. But again…..give me an explanation of why this development is a positive. You’ve all taken your pot shots at me. But still not one person has been able to answer that question.
You keep repeating this like it is some amazing gotcha moment. No one thinks this is good but this is the first transfer of anyone looking at meaningful minutes next year. You can understand this is not good and also understand there’s a path forward that we need to see play out.
 
My spin is this board kept complaining that we didn't use the portal enough last year so this year we are going to make up for it and we will just have to wait and see what the results are next season won't we.
 
At least wait to see how everything shakes out before we crucify Hurley. Just might have better options for our program in his plans, we know that good players continue to enter the portal daily. I'll admit I wanted to see more time for a few players and it didn't happen.
 
My spin is this board kept complaining that we didn't use the portal enough last year so this year we are going to make up for it and we will just have to wait and see what the results are next season won't we.
That’s a bit of an oversimplification.

Last year’s team had one consistent ball handler and no true point guard that got minutes regularly. As a result, a lot of people on here (fairly) criticized Hurley for neither using the portal nor developing the top-50 recruit he brought in.

At the same time, I don’t think anyone wants to see UConn rely on the transfer portal to build a roster. It’s great for adding a couple pieces that will plug in roster holes and/or put an already great team over the top. But as we saw with Ollie, relying on transfers on a year-to-year basis isn’t a sustainable way to build a program.
 
So now he's run off 2 highly touted recruits that never were given a chance to see the floor. All while giving undeserved minutes to upper-classmen in exchange for the 2nd consecutive 1st round NCAA flameout. And in the interest of building culture? Well guess what? Now he's gonna have to fill his team with a bunch of transfers or face next season with his son as our #1 option at point guard. Well done Dan Hurley. Can't wait to see what you have in store next.

It worked for Boeheim, except for losing in the 1st round.
 
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You all can drop off now. Road mostly for free through Jim Calhoun's HOF rising. Do you think Jim was easy? Gave hugs and bon bons. Bob Hurley HOF ride? I am gonna say RJ felt Danny has a lot of his Dad in his behavior - practice and on court presence. You all are welcome to jump and throw all your negative dismissive know nothing takes here. I am going nowhere. We develop kids. Polley & Whaley; Martin & Cole all improved dramatically. Someone questioned Cole's emergence this year: watch some games from 2020-2021 and you see a great progression of skills and leadership. Floyd? Brown who went to Texas A&M? Diggins? I saw nothing. They aren't staying around for the growth - in themselves and this UCONN team.

Danny Hurley is still a relatively new HC. Where was Calhoun after a decade? Dan Hurley has to get better to meet my expectations. He will.

We are in a new era in CBB. It is obvious for me - who watched Bill Musselman play roster games in the Continental minor basketball leagues in Albany - that his son Eric is well situated to play similar roster moves at our new college paradigm. Same same. But I think there's another way.
 
I hear you to a degree.

Who is the recruit though that Hurley brought in & recruited over Gaff after his freshman year?
It’s Cole.
Gaff was completely overrated by many on the Boneyard his freshman year based only on the fact he made less mistakes than AG who many began to dislike. He had a couple of flashes of good games but by no means was he anything more than solid, couldn’t defend and way too much East West offense. Vital got hot as hell and made many weaknesses on the team fade. They had to find better talent to compete at a higher level entering the Big East there was nothing he ever showed to believe otherwise. Holding pat last year while leaving Cole as our only go to definitely hurt.
I don’t think another player outside of Cole would’ve helped to be honest. We had nobody who was the best player on the court in the last 5 minutes. That’s what most of our season boiled down to. I kinda wish Hurley would’ve just took whatever lumps this year with not going all in on the senior players.

We were a true high floor low ceiling team. Now I hope we can start building our roster around guys we recruited.
 
This post is kinda BS and I've been a pretty big critic of Hurley myself. The reality is, Gaffney and Floyd were low-rated recruits and I think they saw the writing on the wall when rumors started flying about Newton committing. The fact that Diggins could not sniff the floor, at all, over Gaffney was a pretty big red-flag.

Look forward to seeing this forum do a 180 in terms of expectations for next season once Newton and Ramey commit.
 
It’s Cole.

I don’t think another player outside of Cole would’ve helped to be honest. We had nobody who was the best player on the court in the last 5 minutes. That’s what most of our season boiled down to. I kinda wish Hurley would’ve just took whatever lumps this year with not going all in on the senior players.

We were a true high floor low ceiling team. Now I hope we can start building our roster around guys we recruited.
Cole & Gaff got here the same year. Cole literally was with the team the same amount of time as Gaff
 
It’s Cole.

I don’t think another player outside of Cole would’ve helped to be honest. We had nobody who was the best player on the court in the last 5 minutes. That’s what most of our season boiled down to. I kinda wish Hurley would’ve just took whatever lumps this year with not going all in on the senior players.

We were a true high floor low ceiling team. Now I hope we can start building our roster around guys we recruited.
Hurley thought he was going to the final 4 last year. KO did every year too. This is why they keep running players like Brimah, Polley and Whaley out there for big minutes while guys like Carlton steam on the bench.
 
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By the end of Gaffney’s freshman year he was starting and the Boneyard loved his upside. Only to never actually invest in it. Those guys got NBA minutes because they were coached and developed to do so. Outside of Kemba none of those guys were burger boys. They got better every year consistently. Every single guard because there was a plan for them. Hurley has not shown that he has a true plan to develop guys yet.

According to Hurley Gaffney had all the talent in the world too. He showed it in flashes, it was all mental with him. Which could be a result of not managing him the right way. Gaffney did nothing wrong his freshman year to be recruited over and not have the reigns handed to him.

All this to say I’m still not out on Hurley. I just hope he learns his lesson in investing in his players or else the portal is going to became our best recruiting source.
Gaffney wasn’t recruited over. Cole was on the team his freshman year
 
Since we're talking about lifetime bans for fake husky fans, can I finally change my dumb name back to Cuse Sucks without it being changed to Cuse Socks? :mad:
 
So now he's run off 2 highly touted recruits that never were given a chance to see the floor. All while giving undeserved minutes to upper-classmen in exchange for the 2nd consecutive 1st round NCAA flameout. And in the interest of building culture? Well guess what? Now he's gonna have to fill his team with a bunch of transfers or face next season with his son as our #1 option at point guard. Well done Dan Hurley. Can't wait to see what you have in store next.
The whole CBB is changed now ..adapt or die..recruiting and transfers will be a 50/50 proposition ..if a kid is good and you do well he stays..U can't get to the tournament and be one and done..players will decide year to year if they are committed. Who knows what it will bring in the future. Culture will matter!
 
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So now he's run off 2 highly touted recruits that never were given a chance to see the floor. All while giving undeserved minutes to upper-classmen in exchange for the 2nd consecutive 1st round NCAA flameout. And in the interest of building culture? Well guess what? Now he's gonna have to fill his team with a bunch of transfers or face next season with his son as our #1 option at point guard. Well done Dan Hurley. Can't wait to see what you have in store next.
I'm not sure it's entirely fair to blame Dan Hurley for this. I have to assume if Diggins was good enough to play he would have. And when he did hit the floor, you have to admit his play was atrocious. It's what it would have looked like if I took your minutes on the floor.
No clue why Floyd left, but it appears to me that he's afraid of competition for time, a seemingly common theme for young players these days. Even if he didn't redshirt, my guess is he still would have left. Appears butthurt that Dan Hurley is hitting the portal.
My Q for you is what should he have done differently? Should he not hit the portal for the guard we desperately need? I know you don't like him, but I don't see what Dan Hurley has done wrong with how he handled the players or situation.
My belief is that this generation of kids feel they deserve to play. The see their ranking, their mix tapes, and believe their own hype. When things don't go their way because they didn't earn their time, they storm off to the portal like little children.
 
I'm not sure it's entirely fair to blame Dan Hurley for this. I have to assume if Diggins was good enough to play he would have. And when he did hit the floor, you have to admit his play was atrocious. It's what it would have looked like if I took your minutes on the floor.
No clue why Floyd left, but it appears to me that he's afraid of competition for time, a seemingly common theme for young players these days. Even if he didn't redshirt, my guess is he still would have left. Appears butthurt that Dan Hurley is hitting the portal.
My Q for you is what should he have done differently? Should he not hit the portal for the guard we desperately need? I know you don't like him, but I don't see what Dan Hurley has done wrong with how he handled the players or situation.
My belief is that this generation of kids feel they deserve to play. The see their ranking, their mix tapes, and believe their own hype. When things don't go their way because they didn't earn their time, they storm off to the portal like little children.
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying, the new transfer rules have obviously changed the landscape completely. Everyone wants instant gratification and now they are completely free to roam if they don't get it. So Jalen and Rahsool I can understand (although I think he completely mismanaged both of them). But the Floyd thing is odd and troubling. Why bring him in a year early to redshirt? Why sing his praises as recently as a week or two ago? Something just doesn't smell right. Even if we are bringing in an elite guard or two, there would still be ample playing time available. There is something else afoot here, maybe we find out, maybe we don't. But I think everyone here would admit this one came straight out of left field while the other two were not much of a surprise.
 
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Yard be freakin' out! Breathe in to a count of four, breathe out to a count of four.
 
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying, the new transfer rules have obviously changed the landscape completely. Everyone wants instant gratification and now they are completely free to roam if they don't get it. So Jalen and Rahsool I can understand (although I think he completely mismanaged both of them). But the Floyd thing is odd and troubling. Why bring him in a year early to redshirt? Why sing his praises as recently as a week or two ago? Something just doesn't smell right. Even if we are bringing in an elite guard or two, there would still be ample playing time available. There is something else afoot here, maybe we find out, maybe we don't. But I think everyone here would admit this one came straight out of left field while the other two were not much of a surprise.
It is odd and troubling for sure. I think we’re all trying to be patient and see how this shakes out, but there’s really no way to sugarcoat it. Let’s not forget Dan Hurley was singing this kid’s praises just a couple of weeks ago. If we do end up with the other choices in the portal, that’ll be great. But how this is playing out screams another red flag to me.
 
We just lost 5 guards in two weeks. We need 4-5 guards to replace that. That’s not normal at all. There’s a reason to panic.
 
This has to be a culture shock to Hurley and he has to change. Or maybe he did change dramatically in the past 6 weeks.

One thing he needs to learn is you can't please all the people all the time. Even if you try you will not get through to all of the players.

Yes, in the grown up world of sports you have to pick favorites and establish a clear pecking order based on measurable standards which are transparent to everyone.

Kumbaya doesn't work.
 
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying, the new transfer rules have obviously changed the landscape completely. Everyone wants instant gratification and now they are completely free to roam if they don't get it. So Jalen and Rahsool I can understand (although I think he completely mismanaged both of them). But the Floyd thing is odd and troubling. Why bring him in a year early to redshirt? Why sing his praises as recently as a week or two ago? Something just doesn't smell right. Even if we are bringing in an elite guard or two, there would still be ample playing time available. There is something else afoot here, maybe we find out, maybe we don't. But I think everyone here would admit this one came straight out of left field while the other two were not much of a surprise.
Until we hear it from Floyd's mouth, we have no idea why he left. As I said, my guess is I think he didn't like what he perceived as being "recruited over". But you're right, it doesn't smell right. Very odd situation.
As for why bring him in early, I wish more would do that. It gives you a head start on learning the system and get used to the speed of the game. They do it in football as well.
 
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