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You guys are placing a lot of hope on the portal, if Karaban goes we have to replace 5 starters
 
JohnnyJr said:
You guys are placing a lot of hope on the portal, if Karaban goes we have to replace 5 starters
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That's true, but we're not going to need to find 5 starters in the portal. There's a good chance Solo Ball is starting at the 2, one or both of Ross and Stewart are starting on the wing, and Samson Johnson is our starting center
 
navery12 said:
That's true, but we're not going to need to find 5 starters in the portal. There's a good chance Solo Ball is starting at the 2, one or both of Ross and Stewart are starting on the wing, and Samson Johnson is our starting center
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Ball sure sounds like the real deal, Johnson I gotta see it before I believe it. But we are banking on the other freshmen developing quick enough to start as sophomores, if they need longer that’s where we’re in trouble
 
navery12 said:
That's true, but we're not going to need to find 5 starters in the portal. There's a good chance Solo Ball is starting at the 2, one or both of Ross and Stewart are starting on the wing, and Samson Johnson is our starting center
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I would be pretty surprised if Alex left. I think we'll need a top point guard in the portal, I'm not comfortable having the reins handed over to a freshman or Diarra. I have trouble buying that Solo is a point guard or will become one quickly as someone else said here.

It's fun to speculate but we have a national championship to defend.
 
superjohn said:
I would be pretty surprised if Alex left. I think we'll need a top point guard in the portal, I'm not comfortable having the reins handed over to a freshman or Diarra. I have trouble buying that Solo is a point guard or will become one quickly as someone else said here.

It's fun to speculate but we have a national championship to defend.
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It really depends on how you view that season. The truth is that it's incredibly hard to run out final four level teams year after year. Sometimes you decide that you are just going to make the tournament with a higher seed while your young guys develop, and if they surprise you, they surprise you.

Sure, you can portal guys, but if you portal a starting PG, does Nowell head to the portal himself? I'm ok rolling with him and Diarra or another veteran non-starter. We'd need another SG behind Solo as well.
 
superjohn said:
I would be pretty surprised if Alex left. I think we'll need a top point guard in the portal, I'm not comfortable having the reins handed over to a freshman or Diarra. I have trouble buying that Solo is a point guard or will become one quickly as someone else said here.

It's fun to speculate but we have a national championship to defend.
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If Alex stays we’ll be in better shape but I think you can only pencil in him and Ball as starters right now at least.
 
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MDHuskFan said:
Officially picked Dook
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Will be interesting to see if they recruit a top center for 2025

Their nil must be insane. The uptick in recruiting from where they were going from arguably the best coach ever to an unproven one is only explainable by the change in nil rules.
 
Duke’s collection of talent is preposterous.

Oh and so much for relationships meaning jack….UConn and KState both get the cold shoulder

On the flip side where else will this kid get to experience brotherhood. So there is that.
 
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Flagg and him were probably coordinating. I don't get all these top recruits going to one school. There's only one ball, they split the points and drop in the draft. Why not go somewhere and be the star?
 
JohnnyJr said:
You guys are placing a lot of hope on the portal, if Karaban goes we have to replace 5 starters
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You do realize that we have done great in the portal the last 2 years, right? We do not win the National Championship without the 4 additions last year... and this year we brought in one of the top 5 transferring guards who is going to be a starter on our pre-season top 10 team.

With this coaching staff... I am willing to place my faith in them that they will find most if not all of the missing pieces they believe we have going into next year in the portal. My question to you is... After their recent track record, you don't?
 
LStudfellow said:
You do realize that we have done great in the portal the last 2 years, right? We do not win the National Championship without the 4 additions last year... and this year we brought in one of the top 5 transferring guards who is going to be a starter on our pre-season top 10 team.

With this coaching staff... I am willing to place my faith in them that they will find most if not all of the missing pieces they believe we have going into next year in the portal. My question to you is... After their recent track record, you don't?
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Great is quite the stretch. We have used it to fill in holes. But this will be quite the jump. Hurley has shown the ability to adapt and I expect him to do the same here.
 
kansashusky said:
Great is quite the stretch. We have used it to fill in holes. But this will be quite the jump. Hurley has shown the ability to adapt and I expect him to do the same here.
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I think he’s done very well but I’d much rather have preferred if we could have recruited an Austin Swartz for multiple years than find a 2 guard in the portal. Who knows if he would have come here with a full court prioritization, but I wish we had gotten him.
 
kansashusky said:
Great is quite the stretch. We have used it to fill in holes. But this will be quite the jump. Hurley has shown the ability to adapt and I expect him to do the same here.
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We'll see this year. But Newton was objectively a great addition. I'd say Martin and Cole were damn good as well.

This team will almost certainly lose all three ofNewton, Clingan, and Castle. I'll worry about other things if we lose more (doubtful it would be to the draft). As of right now, if everyone comes back and performs around expectations, I'm not overly worried. Would have been nice to snag Ngongba and Flagg, but we have a lot of young kids on this team and Hurley has shown an ability to get the best out of kids.
 
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I just don’t get it. Given all the obvious facts Duke is still piling up 5* and we are getting the next level. We are clearly the better program not even close since the turn of the century. We develop players as well as any program. And this has bothered me a lot with this last recruiting period. Now there is always more than one reason or answer to a complex issue. However, I offer the following as a major contributing factor. 4 out of 5, of these 5* may say they want tough coaching but that is just stock media answer. They have been catered to their whole lives and they truly don’t want any tough love. They want to strut through their one year in school. We just have never sold that cruise life story. No matter how much they say they do want to be coached hard, they just don’t. The only fact I have to support this theory is our success at winning national titles. Character and teamwork still trumps talent in college basketball.
 
LStudfellow said:
You do realize that we have done great in the portal the last 2 years, right? We do not win the National Championship without the 4 additions last year... and this year we brought in one of the top 5 transferring guards who is going to be a starter on our pre-season top 10 team.

With this coaching staff... I am willing to place my faith in them that they will find most if not all of the missing pieces they believe we have going into next year in the portal. My question to you is... After their recent track record, you don't?
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Spencer is a great addition and Newton was last year as well. I think some of us are just saying we have a lot of needs to fill for next year if all starters are gone and it looks like 4 are at a minimum. What if the portal class is weak as some have said the high school class was? If we had another couple 4 stars coming in we’d have more options. We might need a Newton, Spencer and a starting Center next year in the portal.
 
Beachview said:
How can duke lose with that kind of talent?
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Eventually a team that starts 5 Freshman meets a team that has more experience, stronger, and almost as athletic. You can only teach Freshman so much in a year. When a team of Freshman get rattled they do what Freshman do. Start going one on one and take crazy shots. The only championship Kentucky won with all that talent was when their 5 stars came back for year 2.
 
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Enjoy the ride people, we're fine, we'll always be fine, we're UCONN

Stop worrying about what we don't have, embrace what we do have

PS: And for the record, we're not winning the National Title every year, we're just going to win more than our fair share.

Arrogant and spoiled
 
SilentDog said:
Given all the obvious facts Duke is still piling up 5* and we are getting the next level. We are clearly the better program not even close since the turn of the century.
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How many games do we have on national TV or ESPN relative to Duke? How hyped are our games on the networks that drive sports media?

I'm also skeptical our NIL is as good as Duke's.

Here's the thing: if you're a one-and-done, you're only going to college because you have to. You want to be drafted highly and build a brand. Duke has more games on channels that people watch (as opposed to Fox Sports) and their conference is owned by the major sports network so they are always front and center.

The Big East is a fantastic basketball conference, and if you want to play great ball and develop into a pro when you are borderline, UConn looks like it's probably a better bet. If you have one year, why not be on TV constantly, talked about constantly, and play in the best rivalry the sport has (Duke-UNC). It's like you get the college experience squished into bite-sized form.
 
We rarely land burger boys, we've had very few five star recruits, we've NEVER land the number one ranked player, NEVER, and yet we've had the most titles in the last 25 years. C'mon man

Love the one you're with

Dance with who brought you to the party

We are family

Don't worry, be happy

Y'know all those schools that keep landing all those incredible classes wish they had our rings
 
tzznandrew said:
AHow many games do we have on national TV or ESPN relative to Duke? How hyped are our games on the networks that drive sports media?

I'm also skeptical our NIL is as good as Duke's.

Here's the thing: if you're a one-and-done, you're only going to college because you have to. You want to be drafted highly and build a brand. Duke has more games on channels that people watch (as opposed to Fox Sports) and their conference is owned by the major sports network so they are always front and center.

The Big East is a fantastic basketball conference, and if you want to play great ball and develop into a pro when you are borderline, UConn looks like it's probably a better bet. If you have one year, why not be on TV constantly, talked about constantly, and play in the best rivalry the sport has (Duke-UNC). It's like you get the college experience squished into bite-sized form.
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Duke has 0 games on the major broadcast newtorks. They do have 3 games on The CW. After that, they have 10 games for sure on ESPN, and 2 games for sure on ESPN2. And then another 7 that are flexed between ESPN/2/U, definitely some of which will end up on ESPN since they're Duke. The rest are ACC Network (11).

We have 8* games this season on the major broadcast networks (7* Fox, 1 CBS). We have 11 games on FS1, which is in exactly as many households as ESPN, and 3 on FS2. We do have 2 on ESPN, 2 on ESPN2, 1 ESPNU. And 3 on CBS Sports Net.

I would argue we have more exposure this season than Duke.
 
tzznandrew said:
How many games do we have on national TV or ESPN relative to Duke? How hyped are our games on the networks that drive sports media?

I'm also skeptical our NIL is as good as Duke's.

Here's the thing: if you're a one-and-done, you're only going to college because you have to. You want to be drafted highly and build a brand. Duke has more games on channels that people watch (as opposed to Fox Sports) and their conference is owned by the major sports network so they are always front and center.

The Big East is a fantastic basketball conference, and if you want to play great ball and develop into a pro when you are borderline, UConn looks like it's probably a better bet. If you have one year, why not be on TV constantly, talked about constantly, and play in the best rivalry the sport has (Duke-UNC). It's like you get the college experience squished into bite-sized form.
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I don't think being on television matters with NBA teams; the scouts beat the bushes and know where the good players are regardless of conferences. In this year's draft, only one of the top ten had the kind of network exposure you describe.

I'm also not that sure that where you play your college ball matters much for your brand in the long run - many of the best brands today (Dame, Luka, LeBron, Steph, Giannis) didn't go to an ACC school or a one-and-done factory. Flagg, like Wemby, will get attention regardless of where he spends the 9 months before the 2025 draft.

I think they are 17-year-old young men, one of the most fickle creatures on the planet.
 
auror said:
Duke has 0 games on the major broadcast newtorks. They do have 3 games on The CW. After that, they have 10 games for sure on ESPN, and 2 games for sure on ESPN2. And then another 7 that are flexed between ESPN/2/U, definitely some of which will end up on ESPN since they're Duke. The rest are ACC Network (11).

We have 8* games this season on the major broadcast networks (7* Fox, 1 CBS). We have 11 games on FS1, which is in exactly as many households as ESPN, and 3 on FS2. We do have 2 on ESPN, 2 on ESPN2, 1 ESPNU. And 3 on CBS Sports Net.

I would argue we have more exposure this season than Duke.
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Yeah, I think we're going to disagree in terms of exposure. ESPN may be in a terminal decline, it seems, but for the time being they still control the sports narratives, particularly CBB. It's where the hype comes from, and if you're only doing one year, getting that narrative I think helps.

While Fox Sports may be in as many households as ESPN, we all know there's a difference in viewership numbers just in terms of games, not getting into the rest of the talking head shows, etc.
 
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