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HeGotGame said:
Who is we? No one with functioning brain thought that.
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HeGotGame said:
That leaves Mac, not much to say except he’s one of the best rookie starting QBs, probably ever. Admittedly, he’s on a great team and most 1st round rookie starters are on horrible teams. His numbers are better than Brady’s were in 2001.
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donyell34 said:
Giant fans are just butt hurt. There season was over the first week in November. Every year there's a Giant thread and this year butkus.....wonder why that was oh 4-13. So all that's left is to slam a team that actually made the playoffs.
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There was a Giants thread this year just like every year
 
Mac Jones did have one of the better rookie QB seasons ever, but certainly not the best. He wasn’t the problem Saturday. Put Brady and the Bucs whole offense on the Pats and they still get steamrolled.

Defense is the problem. More specifically kudos to Buffalo and McDermott who built a team specifically to beat New England. Worst possible matchup, so much speed. Patriots are so slow on defense. Big changes are needed. Played on their heels all night.

Buffalo vs the Chiefs is going to be lit. Both teams built similarly and the two most creative and hard to defend QBs in the league. Should be game of the year in the NFL.
 
@Deepster I did search my posts to make sure I didn’t black out on here and post that, but even I don’t drink that much.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Mac Jones did have one of the better rookie QB seasons ever, but certainly not the best. He wasn’t the problem Saturday. Put Brady and the Bucs whole offense on the Pats and they still get steamrolled.

Defense is the problem. More specifically kudos to Buffalo and McDermott who built a team specifically to beat New England. Worst possible matchup, so much speed. Patriots are so slow on defense. Big changes are needed. Played on their heels all night.

Buffalo vs the Chiefs is going to be lit. Both teams built similarly and the two most creative and hard to defend QBs in the league. Should be game of the year in the NFL.
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Id love to hear the basis or metrics you are using for this.
 
HeGotGame said:
Id love to hear the basis or metrics you are using for this.
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11th most yards. 11th most TD. 2nd best completion %. 10th best QB rating. 7th most completions. And that’s with BB having him throw just 3 times in Buffalo.

No complaints. Glad the Pats drafted him. Many of the best QBs didn’t play as rookies. Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady and lots of others.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
11th most yards. 11th most TD. 2nd best completion %. 10th best QB rating. 7th most completions. And that’s with BB having him throw just 3 times in Buffalo.

No complaints. Glad the Pats drafted him. Many of the best QBs didn’t play as rookies. Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady and lots of others.
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I also think coming into Boston where Brady set the bar pretty high for QBs I think he did fine. Need to get him a Gronk Ettlmen or an Evans
 
donyell34 said:
Giant fans are just butt hurt. There season was over the first week in November. Every year there's a Giant thread and this year butkus.....wonder why that was oh 4-13. So all that's left is to slam a team that actually made the playoffs.
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A couple of posts you can’t handle get over it. As if Redsox fans wouldn’t be celebrating any Yankee playoff eliminations in years that Redsox had last place finishes. Btw the Giants welcome you to the couch so have a seat.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think "we" was you and me and I never thought Mac was the best rookie QB of all time. I just wished the Giants had not drafted a QB from Duke in the first round for a second time
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Judging a QB by where he went to school isn’t a great idea. Jack Frohm went to a UGA, you want him instead?
 
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Edward Sargent said:
I also think coming into Boston where Brady set the bar pretty high for QBs I think he did fine. Need to get him a Gronk Ettlmen or an Evans
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TE is fine. They need to use Smith better. They need speed in the slot and they need a speed RB as a change of pace. Jones had tough shoes to fill and seemed up to it mentally. He will get better.
 
Scoe said:
A couple of posts you can’t handle get over it. As if Redsox fans wouldn’t be celebrating any Yankee playoff eliminations in years that Redsox had last place finishes. Btw the Giants welcome you to the couch so have a seat.
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No problem, long time Yankee fan, Knicks and Ranger fan. Couple of shots taken both ways not a big deal. Peace.
 
donyell34 said:
No problem, long time Yankee fan, Knicks and Ranger fan. Couple of shots taken both ways not a big deal. Peace.
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I’m a fan of all those teams as well and unfortunately root for the Giants the worst franchise in the NFL. Crazy to think James Dolan might be the best owner in NY now.
 
HeGotGame said:
Judging a QB by where he went to school isn’t a great idea. Jack Frohm went to a UGA, you want him instead?
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It’s the reason why Rodgers and Mahomes fell in the draft, same with Josh Allen.
 
HuskyHawk said:
11th most yards. 11th most TD. 2nd best completion %. 10th best QB rating. 7th most completions. And that’s with BB having him throw just 3 times in Buffalo.

No complaints. Glad the Pats drafted him. Many of the best QBs didn’t play as rookies. Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady and lots of others.
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It is a 17 game season for the first time and he started all 17. Some of the guys ahead of him on those stats, like Herbert, Jones, and Mayfield, did it in 13 or 14 games. It was a good rookie year no doubt, but far from the best.
 
HeGotGame said:
It is a 17 game season for the first time and he started all 17. Some of the guys ahead of him on those stats, like Herbert, Jones, and Mayfield, did it in 13 or 14 games. It was a good rookie year no doubt, but far from the best.
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I didn't say it was the best. I said "one of the better". Stand by that. Herbert, Luck and Prescott were very good. Roethisberger was really good. There is plenty to be optimistic about, especially for a QB playing in the offense that demands the most of the position (mentally) in the entire league. Most teams have the center call the blocking scheme, Pats have the QB do it. They have more more pre-snap reads and adjustments than most. In fact, it's something I've complained about, because so many WR and TE struggle with the adjustments. They have to simplify it because nobody is doing it this way in the college game.
 
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Scoe said:
It’s the reason why Rodgers and Mahomes fell in the draft, same with Josh Allen.
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System and coaches more than the school itself.

Although Allen didn’t dominate at the lower level, can’t say that’s not a fair Red flag
 
Scoe said:
It’s the reason why Rodgers and Mahomes fell in the draft, same with Josh Allen.
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Rogers fell playing at Cal? Mahomes at TT, the most prolific passing offense in college football at the time? Allen was at a lower level of competition for sure, but he fell because despite insane tools and athleticism, he couldn't read defenses and process worth a damn. Nor could Mahomes when he got to the NFL. It's always a gamble with athletic "toolsy" QBs. High upside, but they may never figure it out. Wilson and Lance are this year's examples.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Rogers fell playing at Cal? Mahomes at TT, the most prolific passing offense in college football at the time? Allen was at a lower level of competition for sure, but he fell because despite insane tools and athleticism, he couldn't read defenses and process worth a damn. Nor could Mahomes when he got to the NFL. It's always a gamble with athletic "toolsy" QBs. High upside, but they may never figure it out. Wilson and Lance are this year's examples.
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Rodgers fell by playing for tedford.

They had articles and tv segments about tedford QBs were bad.

Rodgers broke that mold lol
 
the Q said:
Rodgers fell by playing for tedford.

They had articles and tv segments about tedford QBs were bad.

Rodgers broke that mold lol
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I knew Rodgers was different when I saw that game where he beat USC in 3 OT. got laughed at when I told one of my friends that Rodgers would be a better NFL qb then Matt Leinart.
 
Scoe said:
I knew Rodgers was different when I saw that game where he beat USC in 3 OT. got laughed at when I told one of my friends that Rodgers would be a better NFL qb then Matt Leinart.
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Most people thought he'd go #2, the info had leaked that SF wanted Smith. Miami needed a QB (this may have killed Saban as an NFL coach). I thought he was better than Smith. I think a lot of mock draft people did, but still, it happened. Details in the link.

 
Scoe said:
I knew Rodgers was different when I saw that game where he beat USC in 3 OT. got laughed at when I told one of my friends that Rodgers would be a better NFL qb then Matt Leinart.
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I knew it when he lost to usc.

He was so impressive even in defeat.
 
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the Q said:
I knew it when he lost to usc.

He was so impressive even in defeat.
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That was the following season, when Cal beat USC that was in 2003, last time USC lost until they lost to Vince Young and Texas.
 
49ers got the Pack where they want them. Do the Packers have a wr other then Adams.
 
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Both ones seeds with their hands firmly wrapped around their necks
 
Scoe said:
Rams are loaded a bad matchup for Brady.
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Can’t let them off the hook and can’t let the nfl get involved like they did in the sb when Brady played like trash and they bailed them out with nonsense
 
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