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James said:
Purvis in 2015. Stone and Hamilton in 2016. Brimah i see as first round in 2016 but not lotto. Jalen Adams aka Devin harris 2.0 in 2017.
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I don't understand why everyone thinks Purvis is going to (1) leave after this year, and (2) be a lottery pick. He hasn't played in 1.5 years, is coming off of surgery, and, honestly, didn't exactly kill it in his one year at NC State.

I think he's more likely to struggle than to come in and dominate right away. Most likely he'll be a solid contributor -- think 2009 Dyson -- but isn't going to be the next Ben Gordon, at least not this year.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks Purvis is going to (1) leave after this year, and (2) be a lottery pick. He hasn't played in 1.5 years, is coming off of surgery, and, honestly, didn't exactly kill it in his one year at NC State.

I think he's more likely to struggle than to come in and dominate right away. Most likely he'll be a solid contributor -- think 2009 Dyson -- but isn't going to be the next Ben Gordon, at least not this year.
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he was misused @ nc state and still had a decent year. you compare him to dyson, but dyson never sniffed 44% from the field ( purvis frosh fg%). His surgery should have no effect on his run and jump ability, which is why consider him a lotto pick. I dont think he will necessarily dominate, but he'll show enough to excite scouts. Strength, defense, and shooting.
 
BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
I think the jump we see in Brimah as it relates to skill set and physical maturity from his Soph. to Jr. year will be the most noticeable improvement in the history of the program. My expectations are somewhat tempered for this year based on his offseason rehab. It is all relative though and this year we will see repeated glimpses of his untapped lottery potential.
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Dunno about that. Kemba when from good to God from sophomore to junior year.
 
Strummer said:
No thank you.
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Actually, I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. In 2009, Dyson played under control, didn't hog the ball, wasn't a turnover machine, and was generally a productive member of the team as our second or third option on offense.

Now, if I said 2010 Dyson...that would be a problem.
 
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popcorn said:
I see Brimah getting some love from this board.
Are you sure he wouldn't be Thabeet the second?
I think if we can get a BIG into the lottery it will help
with recruiting
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In my opinion, he has surpassed Thabeet. He's not quite as dominant on the boards as I'd like to see, but man can he block shots. Very quick ups. And he runs well too.
 
uconnfan68 said:
In my opinion, he has surpassed Thabeet. He's not quite as dominant on the boards as I'd like to see, but man can he block shots. Very quick ups. And he runs well too.
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Whoa. No chance. Potential is there but you've completely forgotten how dominant Hasheem was.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Whoa. No chance. Potential is there but you've completely forgotten how dominant Hasheem was.
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Hasheem is the most underrated player in UConn history, was in the NPOY discussion his junior year
 
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uconnfan68 said:
In my opinion, he has surpassed Thabeet. He's not quite as dominant on the boards as I'd like to see, but man can he block shots. Very quick ups. And he runs well too.
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Yup, he's already surpassed the co-defensive poy. Brilliant.
 
uconnfan68 said:
In my opinion, he has surpassed Thabeet. He's not quite as dominant on the boards as I'd like to see, but man can he block shots. Very quick ups. And he runs well too.
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Thabeet was one of the best defensive players ever in the history of college basketball. He truly struck fear into opposing players. I've never seen it's like since. Thabeet was:
Brimah doesn't sniff Thabeet yet.
 
intlzncster said:
Dunno about that. Kemba when from good to God from sophomore to junior year.
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Kemba went from good to Great from a leadership perspective (from Soph. to Jr. year). EZ pass shot twice as many 3's his Jr. year and his 3 point shooting % was lower than his Soph. year. His 2 point field goal % increased marginally. If I'm not mistaken his assist #'s also decreased his Jr. year (played some off the ball). This of course is just a statistical comparison which is not all inclusive when evaluating a players growth. Kemba was amazing and his improvement noticeable.

I just don't think it is unreasonable at all to think Brimah will show more upside growth than Kemba during that time period (Soph. to Jr. year).
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Actually, I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. In 2009, Dyson played under control, didn't hog the ball, wasn't a turnover machine, and was generally a productive member of the team as our second or third option on offense.

Now, if I said 2010 Dyson...that would be a problem.
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Dyson in 2009 deferred to A.J. ,As Price was the clear leader of that team and 1st crunch time option.
2010 Dyson tried to assume that role. But as a 2 with just an average handle and questionable decision making he wasn't the right guy. Kemba even as a Soph was a better choice. But it's tough for a star senior to defer to a Soph.
2011 there was no doubt about who was in charge.
2012 again there was no clear guy ,Bazz tried but as a Soph and lacking Kemba's carisma he never succeeded. Probably even hurt.
2013 and 2014 were successful as Bazz matured into that roll and he actually was the upper class men.
2015 success will be determined as much on RB taking control of the team
A conflict similar to 2010,and 2012 will result in repeating those years.
Anyone see the pattern between clear leader and success.
I'm not sure Rodney is any better than Dyson , if he as good ,I will be thrilled.
It's understanding that this is Ryan 's team that will mean success or failure.
 
I agree with much of your analysis with some significant difference which I don't have the time to get into.
Shabazz made such a transformation between 2012 and 2014 that it's possible Boatright might do the same, I suppose. He did make a defensive transformation at the end of last season and I think that is one of the most underrated reasons why we won the NC. More than any other guy he took whole teams out of their game plan - as someone who loves the game itself I was amazed at how he was able to do that.
I don't think Boat is quite the long range shooter Bazz was but he is probably better off the dribble. He improved in decision making while Bazz was truly elite in that area last season.
I like his reported work dedication that's a sign of increase maturity.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
A conflict similar to 2010,and 2012 will result in repeating those years.
Anyone see the pattern between clear leader and success.
I'm not sure Rodney is any better than Dyson , if he as good ,I will be thrilled.
It's understanding that this is Ryan 's team that will mean success or failure.
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I largely share your concerns. Our success next year will hinge on how Boat and Purvis can coexist in the backcourt in their first and only year together. Piece of Jeff Goodman has expressed deep skepticism of those two and Hamilton being able to share the ball.

We'll see how it unfolds, but I think by mid-December we'll have a good idea of how this year is going to go.
 
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BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
Kemba went from good to Great from a leadership perspective (from Soph. to Jr. year). EZ pass shot twice as many 3's his Jr. year and his 3 point shooting % was lower than his Soph. year. His 2 point field goal % increased marginally. If I'm not mistaken his assist #'s also decreased his Jr. year (played some off the ball). This of course is just a statistical comparison which is not all inclusive when evaluating a players growth. Kemba was amazing and his improvement noticeable.

I just don't think it is unreasonable at all to think Brimah will show more upside growth than Kemba during that time period (Soph. to Jr. year).
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His field goal %'s went down because he was playing with a bunch of kids. He was an entire team for most of the year. It was more than just leadership, he literally became the best player in the country from a fringe all conference player.

If Brimah improves at the same rate, he will be the equivalent of Patrick Ewing. I'm all for this mind you.
 
If AB develops into a lottery pick, we are going to be one awesome team.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I largely share your concerns. Our success next year will hinge on how Boat and Purvis can coexist in the backcourt in their first and only year together. Piece of Jeff Goodman has expressed deep skepticism of those two and Hamilton being able to share the ball.

We'll see how it unfolds, but I think by mid-December we'll have a good idea of how this year is going to go.
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We won't know anything by mid Dec imo. Lot of new pieces and not a lot of good games. It's going to be a late developing team this year imo.
 
Boats transition should be made easier with the other guards being able to handle the ball (3 of them) and a 3/4 who can handle it really well too in Hamilton. While it is Ryan's team I don't believe that crowning is like Kemba or Shabazz as far as THE guy. He needs help for sure considering his inexperience as a true PG and because of that at times he will need to relinquish some of that leadership to others.
 
Intizncster, do you really believe that Brimah is going to improve to the point where as he's going to reach Ewing status.
That would be a lot for him to accomplish. Middle to late first round by junior year.
 
popcorn said:
Intizncster, do you really believe that Brimah is going to improve to the point where as he's going to reach Ewing status.
That would be a lot for him to accomplish. Middle to late first round by junior year.
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No I don't. That was my whole point.
 
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RP was the leading scorer in the Mickey D's game and now has had over a year to learn the UConn system, under Coach Ollie's tutelage. Not that it means much but he also tied Bazz as leading scorer in the pre-season scrimmage last year.
I think many are selling him far short!
I could easily see him scoring in the 13 to 15 ppg range, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.5 steals, 38% from 3 pt, 75% for FT (big step up from freshman year)
 
huskyharry said:
RP was the leading scorer in the Mickey D's game and now has had over a year to learn the UConn system, under Coach Ollie's tutelage. Not that it means much but he also tied Bazz as leading scorer in the pre-season scrimmage last year.
I think many are selling him far short!
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No one is selling him short. Purvis obviously has a lot of potential, but those who are certain that he's going to be dominant this year are getting ahead of themselves. He's played one thoroughly mediocre season of college basketball. Yes, it was in a broken system with an incompetent coach, but given the data we currently have, the assumption that Purvis is sure to be a star this season is hard to justify.
 
CallMeBruce said:
No one is selling him short. Purvis obviously has a lot of potential, but those who are certain that he's going to be dominant this year are getting ahead of themselves. He's played one thoroughly mediocre season of college basketball. Yes, it was in a broken system with an incompetent coach, but given the data we currently have, the assumption that Purvis is sure to be a star this season is hard to justify.
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lotto picks are drafted on potential, and thats what this thread is about. its not about who is going to be our next star, its who has most potential to be a lotto pick. Purvis has all the physical tools to be a 1-14 selection.
 
  • 1994 #4 Donyell Marshall
  • 1996 #5 Ray Allen (3x NBA Champ )
  • 1999 #7 Richard Hamilton ( NBA Champ )
  • 2002 #10 Caron Butler
  • 2004 #2 Emeka Okafor
  • 2004 #3 Ben Gordon
  • 2005 #7 Charlie Villanueva
  • 2006 #8 Rudy Gay
  • 2006 #12 Hilton Armstrong
  • 2011 #9 Kemba Walker
  • 2012 #9 Andre Drummond
  • 2012 #12 Jeremy Lamb
 
popcorn said:
  • 1994 #4 Donyell Marshall
  • 1996 #5 Ray Allen (3x NBA Champ )
  • 1999 #7 Richard Hamilton ( NBA Champ )
  • 2002 #10 Caron Butler
  • 2004 #2 Emeka Okafor
  • 2004 #3 Ben Gordon
  • 2005 #7 Charlie Villanueva
  • 2006 #8 Rudy Gay
  • 2006 #12 Hilton Armstrong
  • 2009 #2 Hasheem Thabeet
  • 2011 #9 Kemba Walker
  • 2012 #9 Andre Drummond
  • 2012 #12 Jeremy Lamb
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Missed one
 
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