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New XL Renovations

Waquoit said:
The Wolf Pack gets good crowds and the games are fun. That's a problem how? Most of the cities teams in our cohort have a similar arena situation. But the XL makes you embarrassed to live here? Silly. We live in one of the best states in the country.
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
It's a state funded economic development agency.
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That doesn't actually develop the economy. Every single venture they've ever operated has been run at a loss. Every single one.

Maybe try something new?
 
CL82 said:
That doesn't actually develop the economy. Every single venture they've ever operated has been run at a loss. Every single one.

Maybe try something new?
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Ok, so they oversee three venues (and loan monies to developers to build housing):

1. XL
2. The Rent
3. CT Convention Center

The first two don't have a top tier pro team tenant. Most buildings of that ilk don't turn profits. XL has not been upgraded through no fault of the CRDA but rather Fairfield County legislators' opposition. The Rent (another building ignored by legislators) sure would've been much better off if its major tenant of 6 or 7 dates a year could've hired competent head coaches.

The convention center is typical of convention centers across the country - they're loss leaders (maybe 10 buildings make a profit).

What do you suggest the CRDA do differently? Mind you, I'm not saying they're without faults here and there.
 
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UCann said:
High crime rate??? Are you kidding me? Why has the world moved away from facts? See the screen shot, all I had to do was google it.
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They hide stats just ask those fighting crime and they will tell you how much gets swept under the carpet.
Theft is up, car jackings are up, assaults are up. Again the numbers are not being reported. Ask any beat cop who is not polticial
 
uconnbill said:
They hide stats just ask those fighting crime and they will tell you how much gets swept under the carpet.
Theft is up, car jackings are up, assaults are up. Again the numbers are not being reported. Ask any beat cop who is not polticial
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Are other states not doing the same thing? Seems unlikely
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Ok, so they oversee three venues (and loan monies to developers to build housing):

1. XL
2. The Rent
3. CT Convention Center

The first two don't have a top tier pro team tenant. Most buildings of that ilk don't turn profits. XL has not been upgraded through no fault of the CRDA but rather Fairfield County legislators' opposition. The Rent (anotger building ignored by legilators) sure would've been much better off if its major tenant of 6 or 7 dates a year could've hired competent head coaches.

The convention center is typical of Convention centers across the country - they're loss leaders (maybe 10 buildings make a profit).

What do you suggest the CRDA do differently? Mind you, I'm not saying they're without faults here and there.
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Don don't forget Dillan stadium and Showcase Cinemas.

I'd suggest that they disband and eliminate their salaries since they hire professional management anyway. I'd also suggest that they stop hiding their losses in the university of Connecticut athletic department by overcharging us. That's the thing that bugs me. They hide their ineptitude by shifting losses to our athletic department, which intern makes us less desirable for conference alignment.
 
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uconnbill said:
They hide stats just ask those fighting crime and they will tell you how much gets swept under the carpet.
Theft is up, car jackings are up, assaults are up. Again the numbers are not being reported. Ask any beat cop who is not polticial
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Connecticut is one of the safest states in the country. The cities are dangerous but not as bad as many cities in the Midwest and South. Connecticut has always had the largest wealth gap or one of the largest wealth gaps in the country. Extreme poverty right next to some of the most extreme wealth you'll ever see.
 
CL82 said:
Don don't forget Dillan stadium and Showcase Cinemas.

I'd suggest that they disband and eliminate their salaries since they hire professional management anyway. I'd also suggest that they stop hiding their losses in the university of Connecticut athletic department by overcharging us. That's the thing that bugs me. They hide their ineptitude by shifting losses to our athletic department, which intern makes us less desirable for conference alignment.
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I wasn't aware the CRDA was involved with Dillon Stadium - I know it is a City of Hartford property but didn't think CRDA got involved?

What is the issue with Showcase Cinemas?

I know it's all state government accounting regarding rent/etc arrangements between UConn and XL/Rent, so not really sure it matters much. And one thing that UConn has never carried on its books has been debt service for the Rent, so that has obviously been a plus for UConn (many state universities around the country carry large debt loads on their athletic department books for their football stadiums). Maybe that was part of the "deal" for the Rent?
 
CL82 said:
Don don't forget Dillan stadium and Showcase Cinemas.

I'd suggest that they disband and eliminate their salaries since they hire professional management anyway. I'd also suggest that they stop hiding their losses in the university of Connecticut athletic department by overcharging us. That's the thing that bugs me. They hide their ineptitude by shifting losses to our athletic department, which intern makes us less desirable for conference alignment.
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Exactly right - the CRDA increases our AD deficit m.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I wasn't aware the CRDA was involved with Dillon Stadium - I know it is a City of Hartford property but didn't think CRDA got involved?

What is the issue with Showcase Cinemas?

I know it's all state government accounting regarding rent/etc arrangements between UConn and XL/Rent, so not really sure it matters much. And one thing that UConn has never carried on its books has been debt service for the Rent, so that has obviously been a plus for UConn (many state universities around the country carry large debt loads on their athletic department books for their football stadiums). Maybe that was part of the "deal" for the Rent?
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Many stadiums have been paid off for decades. I am not certain about the funding on The Rent. At the time didn’t UTC give the state the land? Was it bonded or paid for out of the general fund? And it has been used for many non UConn purposes - Covid Vaccines etc.
 
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For years I have said, game day experience is most important. More bathrooms to cut down lines, great wifi and a stadium app for your phone so you can see replays and highlights at any angle from your phone
 
hardcorehusky said:
For years I have said, game day experience is most important. More bathrooms to cut down lines, great wifi and a stadium app for your phone so you can see replays and highlights at any angle from your phone
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More bathrooms create quicker lines for concessions stands, amazing isn't it.
 
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As long as there is a court and some seats I'm happy. I could care less about any thing else.
 
Shrug. That's helpful, I guess, but the notion that Connecticut coaches are going to drive perspective recruits from Storrs to Hartford to show them the "UConn compound" as a recruiting tool is pretty unlikely.

Personally, I think it makes zero sense for the state to pay the university so that the university can pay the athletic department so that the athletic department can pay the XL center so that the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit is artificially decreased. Instead, if the state believes that UConn playing in Hartford helps the finances of the state capital, they should offer us use of the XL without charge and just pay the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit directly without routing a portion through the university.

All the money is still coming from Connecticut taxpayers either way in it avoids hiding a portion of the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit in the athletics departments budget, which makes it less attractive as a potential P4 candidate.
 
CL82 said:
Shrug. That's helpful, I guess, but the notion that Connecticut coaches are going to drive perspective recruits from Storrs to Hartford to show them the "UConn compound" as a recruiting tool is pretty unlikely.

Personally, I think it makes zero sense for the state to pay the university so that the university can pay the athletic department so that the athletic department can pay the XL center so that the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit is artificially decreased. Instead, if the state believes that UConn playing in Hartford helps the finances of the state capital, they should offer us use of the XL without charge and just pay the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit directly without routing a portion through the university.

All the money is still coming from Connecticut taxpayers either way in it avoids hiding a portion of the CDRA's annual multi million dollar budget deficit in the athletics departments budget, which makes it less attractive as a potential P4 candidate.
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It is my understanding they always take recruits to the XL Center. These renovations can’t hurt.
 
LIUCHusky said:
It is my understanding they always take recruits to the XL Center. These renovations can’t hurt.
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The renovations can't hurt, but I've never heard that they take recruits to the XL center
 
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There’s a difference having a recruit attend a game and be given a tour of a facility. On game day, the focus of the staff is to win the game, as it should be.
 
CL82 said:
The renovations can't hurt, but I've never heard that they take recruits to the XL center
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They take recruits to The Capital Grille right down the street. The XL can be a stop on the way.
 
From the CRDA March 20th meeting minutes:
"UConn women’s basketball finished up their season at XL, having played seven games with an average attendance of 11,000 fans. The men played eight games with an average attendance of 11,800."

that's not accurate, is it?
 
husky8273 said:
From the CRDA March 20th meeting minutes:
"UConn women’s basketball finished up their season at XL, having played seven games with an average attendance of 11,000 fans. The men played eight games with an average attendance of 11,800."

that's not accurate, is it?
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2023–present15,684
 
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