New signs of life in NE football (Blaudschun)

[Yawkey Way]

Would be great. As long as it was an ACC conference game. Otherwise not in favor. Too bad Flipper didn't understand the value of a near by conference rival.

Rightly or wrongly, BC sees ND as their Catholic school rival, but of course ND football thinks about BC football, the way BC looks upon Uconn football, as largely insignificant in their world. Its harsh, but its just the pecking order thats been established by the powers that be in college football.... as for a future local rival, it appears that BC and Syracuse will be football annual rivals in their division of the ACC. Syracuse, despite their recent down years, does have a long history of playing annual football games with BC going back to the 40's, and for decades the 2 schools often vied for the same northeast football recruits. So there is some long and traditional football history here between the 2 northeast private ( not public ) Universities.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Rightly or wrongly, BC sees ND as their Catholic school rival, but of course ND football thinks about BC football, the way BC looks upon Uconn football, as largely insignificant in their world. Its harsh, but its just the pecking order thats been established by the powers that be in college football.... as for a future local rival, it appears that BC and Syracuse will be football annual rivals in their division of the ACC. Syracuse, despite their recent down years, does have a long history of playing annual football games with BC going back to the 40's, and for decades the 2 schools often vied for the same northeast football recruits. So there is some long and traditional football history here between the 2 northeast private ( not public ) Universities.

You mean that Notre Dame views BC the way they view UConn - a football program that owns a winning record against the Irish? A football program that walked into TD Jesus's House, beat up the resident yokels, walked out with a win, and convinced them to fire their coach. And what do you mean the way BC looks upon UConn football? You mean they wonder how cool it would have been like to have been to a New Year's Day Bowl post-Doug Flutie? And that's not even getting into basketball comparisons. BC is an afterthought in the Boston market and distant cousin that the family doesn't talk about to the other ACC members.

 

[Confident Carl]

Great article. Couldn't agree more. UCONN should scheule Home and Homes with both UMASS and BC.
Good for NE football!

 

[Yawkey Way]

You mean that Notre Dame views BC the way they view UConn - a football program that owns a winning record against the Irish? A football program that walked into TD Jesus's House, beat up the resident yokels, walked out with a win, and convinced them to fire their coach. And what do you mean the way BC looks upon UConn football? You mean they wonder how cool it would have been like to have been to a New Year's Day Bowl post-Doug Flutie? And that's not even getting into basketball comparisons. BC is an afterthought in the Boston market and distant cousin that the family doesn't talk about to the other ACC members.

Yes, I do believe that most ND fans look at both UCONN and BC as insignificant to them. I would think you would tend to agree with this. And yes, as a non alum of BC, but born and raised and living now near Boston, my assessment is that the majority of casual sports fans in Greater Boston rarely think of BC Football at all. And I've yet to meet any casual non alum BC football fans from Greater Boston that thinks about Uconn football .. unless the subject is brought up to them. And few casual sports fans in Boston ( non BC football fans ) are interested in UCONN football and wouldn't want to talk about the subject frankly, no matter who brought the subject up.. As mentioned, few casual sports fans brought up and raised in Eastern Massachusetts care about college football (or college basketball for that matter )at all. I would much prefer to see BC play Uconn in football than BC play Umass in football. But I can tell you that I am a distinct minority in this region around Greater Boston. The vast majority could care less who BC plays, but given a choice between Umass or Uconn on their OOC schedule,, the vast majority that live in Greater Boston would prefer BC play Umass, for the simple understandable and logical reason that there are way, way more Umass ( or other schools in the Mass. college state system ) grads in the area than UCONN grads.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Great article. Couldn't agree more. UCONN should scheule Home and Homes with both UMASS and BC.
Good for NE football!

I am under no illusion however that if BC played UCONN in football that it would do anything at all for the interest level of college football in the region. Not insofar as the interest level for the college game in Greater Boston region anyway. UCONN could play BC...... even beat BC in the game... and hardly any sports fans would notice nor care in Greater Boston. The story might make the sports headlines in the New Haven Register and the Hartford Courant, but it would buried inside the Boston Globe on page 2 or page 3, with the Pro teams of Boston above the fold and what most sports fans in Greater Boston would be mostly interested in.

 

[Steve1981]

 

[Waquoit]

BCU lied the whole time while they were trying to destroy our program. And they are the one taking umbrage? I hate BCU, no bigger phonies in college sports.

 

[BlueMAB]

Why would casual sports fans in Boston be interested in UConn football?

They aren't even interested in Boston College football.

 

[uconndogs]

Rightly or wrongly, BC sees ND as their Catholic school rival, but of course ND football thinks about BC football, the way BC looks upon Uconn football, as largely insignificant in their world. Its harsh, but its just the pecking order thats been established by the powers that be in college football.... as for a future local rival, it appears that BC and Syracuse will be football annual rivals in their division of the ACC. Syracuse, despite their recent down years, does have a long history of playing annual football games with BC going back to the 40's, and for decades the 2 schools often vied for the same northeast football recruits. So there is some long and traditional football history here between the 2 northeast private ( not public ) Universities.

If BC "looks upon UCONN as insignificant" why has BC, by the admission of its former AD, been so adamant about making sure UCONN is left out of the ACC to lay claim to the New England market. I think UCONN scares BC to death and BC views UCONN as anything but insignificant.

As for BC and Syracuse, the fan bases had better hope those programs have some meaningful success. Without that, there will be no regional interest. Frankly, outside of Syracuse basketball, it looks pretty bleak for both in the ACC. It's been along time since Flutie or Jim Brown took a piss at BC or Syracuse and a real long time since either of those football programs have won a conference championship, let alone being relevant on a national level. They better figure out a way to win and win soon or Conte Forum may be the norm.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

BCU lied the whole time while they were trying to destroy our program. And they are the one taking umbrage? I hate BCU, no bigger phonies in college sports.

Agree. Well . . .. maybe a bigger phony would be ESPN, our good neighbor who took UConn under its wing during the formative years - NOT. Screw them. In fact post State Police at every entrance onto the premises and ticket the hell out of everyone associated with them.

 

[uconndogs]

Guys, guys, Fr. Leahy was very clear. The primary reason BC made the change was for academics. To join the legions like....................Louisville...............

 

[Yawkey Way]

Why would casual sports fans in Boston be interested in UConn football?

They aren't even interested in Boston College football.

Exactly.. that is my point. A BC- Uconn game would do little to change that perception of the college game for most casual sports fans around Boston either. It is what it is. Its a pro sports town. Blaudschun departed the Boston Globe and blogs from who know where now because there is no Big East and few people care about college football in the Greater Boston region.... BC included. Ergo, Blaud is history, and might be blogging now from his home basement now for all we know.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Exactly.. that is my point. A BC- Uconn game would do little to change that perception of the college game for most casual sports fans around Boston either. It is what it is. Its a pro sports town. Blaudschun departed the Boston Globe and blogs from who know where now because there is no Big East and few people care about college football in the Greater Boston region.... BC included. Ergo, Blaud is history, and might be blogging now from his home basement now for all we know.

Why are you here?

 

[Yawkey Way]

Why are you here?

Because I am interested in Uconn football, as I have family relatives in 3 communities in Connecticut, ( wife is from Connecticut, went to college in Connecticut ) and am a fan of BC football having been born and raised and currently live 8 miles from the BC campus... and this thread is about N.E. College football, including Umass, BC, and Uconn and it peaked my interest to chime in with my thoughts and observations re. this thread topic from a non BC Alums perspective living in Greater Boston.

 

[uconndogs]

Exactly.. that is my point. A BC- Uconn game would do little to change that perception of the college game for most casual sports fans around Boston either. It is what it is. Its a pro sports town. Blaudschun departed the Boston Globe and blogs from who know where now because there is no Big East and few people care about college football in the Greater Boston region.... BC included. Ergo, Blaud is history, and might be blogging now from his home basement now for all we know.

Typical BC. Insular, narrow focused and, frankly, intellectually dishonest.

BC in Boston is only part of the equation. Sure, it is what it is, a pro sports town that, outside of some time when Doug Flutie was under center, could give a rat's about BC.

But, UCONN has a big following in New England and a football game with BC would fill both the Rent and Alumni and if either or both program(s) started performing at a consistently high level, it could be a very big event. Hell, UCONN fans used to fill Conte to watch UCONN beat BC 40,000 times in a row.

BC's attitude towards UCONN in the ACC is classic small time thinking. The efforts to protect their interests are actually doing just the opposite.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Because I am interested in Uconn football, as I have family relatives in 3 communities in Connecticut, ( wife is from Connecticut, went to college in Connecticut ) and am a fan of BC football having been born and raised and currently live 8 miles from the BC campus... and this thread is about N.E. College football, including Umass, BC, and Uconn and it peaked my interest to chime in with my thoughts and observations re. this thread topic from a non BC Alums perspective living in Greater Boston.

Oh - in that case,....check this out....it will be well worth the 1hr 20 minute commute on game days to get together with family.

www.uconntickets.com

 

[BCINGYA]

If BC "looks upon UCONN as insignificant" why has BC, by the admission of its former AD, been so adamant about making sure UCONN is left out of the ACC to lay claim to the New England market. I think UCONN scares BC to death and BC views UCONN as anything but insignificant.

As for BC and Syracuse, the fan bases had better hope those programs have some meaningful success. Without that, there will be no regional interest. Frankly, outside of Syracuse basketball, it looks pretty bleak for both in the ACC. It's been along time since Flutie or Jim Brown took a piss at BC or Syracuse and a real long time since either of those football programs have won a conference championship, let alone being relevant on a national level. They better figure out a way to win and win soon or Conte Forum may be the norm.

You mean that Notre Dame views BC the way they view UConn - a football program that owns a winning record against the Irish? A football program that walked into TD Jesus's House, beat up the resident yokels, walked out with a win, and convinced them to fire their coach. And what do you mean the way BC looks upon UConn football? You mean they wonder how cool it would have been like to have been to a New Year's Day Bowl post-Doug Flutie? And that's not even getting into basketball comparisons. BC is an afterthought in the Boston market and distant cousin that the family doesn't talk about to the other ACC members.

A winning record against the Irish- seriously...one game.......not even a comparison.....yes so very cool and if bragging about an 8-4 team getting smoked in the Fiesta is your throw down, I will take the 12 consecutive bowl appearances in mediocre bowls any day. Im sure after the past three seasons .... any bowl would look great now. If we are a distant cousin I guess that makes you a red haired step child.

 

[Yawkey Way]

I do go to Uconn football games... ( and said so above ). I went to the last BC Game in Hartford( also said so above ) and also mentioned above that I'd much prefer to see BC opening the 2014 season vs. Uconn than Umass but that Umass has more interest in Greater Boston ( for obvious reasons ) than does Uconn as a BC opponent among the comparatively small niche market that enjoys college football in the Greater Boston region.

 

[uconndogs]

A winning record against the Irish- seriously...one game..not even a comparison.....yes so very cool and if bragging about an 8-4 team getting smoked in the Fiesta is your throw down, I will take the 12 consecutive bowl appearances in mediocre bowls any day. Im sure after the past three seasons .... any bowl would look great now. If we are a distant cousin I guess that makes you a red haired step child.

"Typical BC. Insular, narrow focused and, frankly, intellectually dishonest."...........I forgot childish and not too smart.............

 

[Carl Spackler]

A winning record against the Irish- seriously...one game..not even a comparison.....yes so very cool and if bragging about an 8-4 team getting smoked in the Fiesta is your throw down, I will take the 12 consecutive bowl appearances in mediocre bowls any day. Im sure after the past three seasons .... any bowl would look great now. If we are a distant cousin I guess that makes you a red haired step child.

can you go away please, there's a guy here with family in CT, that isn't actually a BC alum, and is interested in football, and if actually ever goes to a game at Rentschler, and has a family that enjoys football, and gets to enjoy the environemtn, the tailgate, and when we resurrect the program after Pasqualoni - good football on the field too - he'll be hooked for life.

So - yawkey - tickets - tailgate - get your family together at Rentschler - you won't regret it. You ever been to a game at Rentschler? I've been to games at BC, and honestly, it's probably tough to find a neutral observer - and my wife would be one, but the gameday at Rentschler blows BC's capability out of the water.

www.uconntickets.com

 

[Carl Spackler]

I do go to Uconn football games... ( and said so above ). I went to the last BC Game in Hartford( also said so above ) and also mentioned above that I'd much prefer to see BC opening the 2014 season vs. Uconn than Umass but that Umass has more interest in Greater Boston ( for obvious reasons ) than does Uconn as a BC opponent among the comparatively small niche market that enjoys college football in the Greater Boston region.

SOrry missed that. The last BC game at Rentschler was in 2004 if I'm not mistaken. How old are you? That's 10 years ago now. The tailgater's were still rookies. You should see the stadium now.

 

[uconndogs]

I do go to Uconn football games ( and said so above ). I went to the last BC Game in Hartford( also said so above ) and also mentioned above that I'd much prefer to see BC opening the 2014 season vs. Uconn than Umass ( but that Umass has more interest in Greater Boston ( for obvious reasons ) than does Uconn as a BC opponent among the comparatively small niche market that enjoys college football in the Greater Boston region.

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I seriously question whether UMASS is a better opponent than UCONN in the Boston area, but maybe. I think it's irrelevant anyway, because as you readily state, the Boston market has not, is not or going to be interested in BC football. UMASS may not even be playing FCS football for that much longer the way things are going. They are having just a miserable go of it.

If the BC leadership had any brains and balls they would schedule UCONN. I see evidence of neither.

 

[Carl Spackler]

new signs of life in NE college football....found right here...


www.uconntickets.com

 

[Nostical]

Yawk, there's a three sided monster at work. Vengeance, jealousy and hopefullness. I'm all for letting the past go--there are new folks in charge. If we can be friends now with Japan after Pearl Harbor….. As for the jealousy, many of us are simply so dissapointed with our being shut out of the ACC, we are lashing out at the folks who made the grade. The hopefullnness is what has people like me pushing for the rivalry. We need to raise the interest level around here in College Football. This game would garner more attention than you suspect--and I live in Boston----and it would help everyone.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Yes, because of my family thru marriage in Connecticut, I have been to several college football games in Connecticut, including games at Yale, hockey games at Qunnipiac ( beautiful campus and new indoor sports arena ), and enjoyed my trips to watch UConn Men and Woman's basketball. I have also been to ACC games at Tallahassee, Clemson, Maryland, Virginia, VT, and to 5 BC Bowl Games, and also the ACC Basketball League Championships 1 year in Tampa a few years back. I have also been to the Rent, but just for one game ( vs BC ) but the timing was not good, so the experience was unpleasant there for my wife and myself ( in retrospect, shoould not have worn my BC fan apparal to that one, but was not expecting the vitriol.. but it was my fault, and should have been aware of the feelings going there ). I do think that we'll eventually see BC play Uconn in football again. Bates is the new AD at BC, and BC does play Uconn in most other sports, including Hockey if I'm not mistaken. It just won't be for another 6-10 years or so, imo. But who knows, with any luck it'll be much sooner.

 

[4BostonEagle]

A winning record against the Irish- seriously...one game..not even a comparison.....yes so very cool and if bragging about an 8-4 team getting smoked in the Fiesta is your throw down, I will take the 12 consecutive bowl appearances in mediocre bowls any day. Im sure after the past three seasons .... any bowl would look great now. If we are a distant cousin I guess that makes you a red haired step child.

You're wrong! UCONN ended up 8-5 not 8-4 that year!

Clearly from the attitude of this board UCONN can conquer anything so they should need no help from BC or anyone else. No need to play nice with anyone because UCONN has beaten a bad ND team once, and played in a BCS Bowl that many believe helped kill the BCS system.

BC being Top 2 and ending the season in the Top 10 as recently as 2007-2008 season is pretty relevant nationally. Much more so than getting curb stomped in the Fiesta Bowl.

 

[John]

I'll assume you meant East Hartford (since I think it's been about 75 years since BC played in Storrs), but quick question: do you think that your fans were 100% hospitable to us when we went to Chestnut Hill?

I'll be honest, there were more than a few kids in collar-up Abercrombie shirts who deserved a punch in the face when I was there in 2004 - but I was more concerned with gift-wrapping a TD for you on the opening drive and not being able to move the ball in the first half than I was with what Thatcher and Bradford from Belmont had to say.

In any event, just how many BC fans do you think had to endure "what happened"? Year after year, the story gets worse, and BC fans make it sound like it was the Bataan death march. They should grow up and grow a pair.

I heard they got beaten with tire irons and then lit on fire.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Yes, because of my family thru marriage in Connecticut, I have been to several college football games in Connecticut, including games at Yale, hockey games at Qunnipiac ( beautiful campus and new indoor sports arena ), and enjoyed my trips to watch UConn Men and Woman's basketball. I have also been to ACC games at Tallahassee, Clemson, Maryland, Virginia, VT, and to 5 BC Bowl Games, and also the ACC Basketball League Championships 1 year in Tampa a few years back. I have also been to the Rent, but just for one game ( vs BC ) but the timing was not good, so the experience was unpleasant there for my wife and myself ( in retrospect, shoould not have worn my BC fan apparal to that one, but was not expecting the vitriol.. but it was my fault, and should have been aware of the feelings going there ). I do think that we'll eventually see BC play Uconn in football again. Bates is the new AD at BC, and BC does play Uconn in most other sports, including Hockey if I'm not mistaken. It just won't be for another 6-10 years or so, imo. But who knows, with any luck it'll be much sooner.

Well, I think it would be good for you to go to Rentschler, and take in a game - maybe UConn v BYU to open the season. Get a bunch of seats for you and your family members and pack up your cars for a tailgate. Going to that many games, you got to have some kind of rig to bring. It's going to be entirely different experience, and much better, I'd guarantee than what you experienced a decade ago. I've also been to college football games all over the country, and I know it's hard to believe, coming from a UCONN fan, but there are very, very few college football venues, that can put together the kind of game day atmosphere that exists at Rentschler. Have a nice day.

www.uconntickets.com

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

You're wrong! UCONN ended up 8-5 not 8-4 that year!

Clearly from the attitude of this board UCONN can conquer anything so they should need no help from BC or anyone else. No need to play nice with anyone because UCONN has beaten a bad ND team once, and played in a BCS Bowl that many believe helped kill the BCS system.

BC being Top 2 and ending the season in the Top 10 as recently as 2007-2008 season is pretty relevant nationally. Much more so than getting curb stomped in the Fiesta Bowl.

Oh boy.

Looks like we have ourselves an internet badass over here.

 

[John]

Oh boy.

Looks like we have ourselves an internet badass over here.

well he does have a point, BC did great in that BCS bowl they went to, right?