new seat selection email?

[BullDawg]

Thanks for sharing. Better late than never, but certainly late to the party. If the current staff can’t execute this no brainer low hanging fruit, please bring in attorneys who can get the job done.
So if head coach Dan Hurley is not a manager, what is he?

This is not how bargaining units are determined.

 

[Chief00]

This is not how bargaining units are determined.

I know the focus is how these bargaining units are built for professors, Hurley is a Manager of a multi million dollar program responsible for scores of people, so appeal it pass the academic isolated committee and it is a no brainer win for the University.
The idea that a committee of decision makers isolated to the bargaining process get to determine if Dan can be terminated after a 30 game loss season is legally crazy.

 

[Chief00]

If you know the answer then say it, stop self-aggrandizing, about stuff you pretend to know just create this myth of Chief being in the know.

Until you say what you know definitely, we all agree that you know about as much about this ticket process as you do Andre Drummond's whereabouts on any given weekend.

So if I organize an event for Andre Drummond, will you commit to attend?

 

[BullDawg]

I know the focus is how these bargaining units are built for professors, Hurley is a Manager of a multi million dollar program responsible for scores of people, so appeal it pass the academic isolated committee and it is a no brainer win for the University.
The idea that a committee of decision makers isolated to the bargaining process get to determine if Dan can be terminated after a 30 game loss season is legally crazy.

The University doesn’t unilaterally determine the bargaining unit. Although I’m not familiar with Connecticut Public Labor Law, but usually, the unit is determined as part of the Union election process.

 

[Ha Who]

 

[zls44]

Not particularly enthralled with the athletic department and how this whole thing went down, so until my annoyance level decreases we'll be directing discretionary donations to the academic side of the university (which arguably we should have been doing all along anyway), and won't be buying/donating bowl tickets like we've always done every time they earn a bowl bid.

Well, if you aren’t going to do the things required to have good seats, then your seats will get worse, yes.

 

[John]

Well, if you aren’t going to do the things required to have good seats, then your seats will get worse, yes.

If Hurley leaves or there’s a rough patch for a couple of seasons then the casuals/Johnny-come-latelys stop buying season tickets (and stop attending in general). The real fans who always stick with the program by buying season tickets will start to see their seat locations improve, and the AD is begging for attendance . It’s happened over and over again with the program, football too. By the way a fan doesn’t get point credit for buying/donating bowl games, so that part of your snark doesn’t hold water.

 

[Waquoit]

I was stuck with no computer available to me. But at least the ticket agent picked up on the second ring when I called during my time slot.

 

[Chief00]

The University doesn’t unilaterally determine the bargaining unit. Although I’m not familiar with Connecticut Public Labor Law, but usually, the unit is determined as part of the Union election process.

Hire the coach as a consultant then, if CT can’t get it done the normal employee way as the vast majority of our peers. I can’t tell you all the reasons we fail at something that the consensus is success elsewhere, but if we can’t produce solutions then let’s stop focusing on making excuses and bring in people talented enought (with support from above) to get it done.
Even given your background, which I applaud, I think you would agree a union collective bargaining panel should not be making the decision if the AD should fire a coach. That’s the AD’s job and if he can’t execute it he may lose his job.

 

[zls44]

If Hurley leaves or there’s a rough patch for a couple of seasons then the casuals/Johnny-come-latelys stop buying season tickets (and stop attending in general). The real fans who always stick with the program by buying season tickets will start to see their seat locations improve, and the AD is begging for attendance .

Yes.

But right now, that is extremely not the case. They are striking while the iron is hot.

 

[BullDawg]

Hire the coach as a consultant then, if CT can’t get it done the normal employee way as the vast majority of our peers. I can’t tell you all the reasons we fail at something that the consensus is success elsewhere, but if we can’t produce solutions then let’s stop focusing on making excuses and bring in people talented enought (with support from above) to get it done.
Even given your background, which I applaud, I think you would agree a union collective bargaining panel should not be making the decision if the AD should fire a coach. That’s the AD’s job and if he can’t execute it he may lose his job.

I think you’re referring to labor arbitration. (Don’t hit me, but I was a labor arbitrator for 30 years or so.).

 

[Chief00]

I think you’re referring to labor arbitration. (Don’t hit me, but I was a labor arbitrator for 30 years or so.).

Yes, that’s the official name.
Why is this such a big issue for the union?
It seems so out of step with the rest of the country in major sports given head and associate coach’s compensation today.

 

[BullDawg]

Yes, that’s the official name.
Why is this such a big issue for the union?
It seems so out of step with the rest of the country in major sports given head and associate coach’s compensation today.

In general, labor arbitration is the quid pro quo for giving up the right to strike for the duration of the contract. As to why coaches are in the bargaining unit, that likely goes back to the days when they on some sort of staff positions (paid partly out of state funds and also out of foundation funds). As has been stated, this can only been changed when the new contract is negotiated.

 

[Chief00]

In general, labor arbitration is the quid pro quo for giving up the right to strike for the duration of the contract. As to why coaches are in the bargaining unit, that likely goes back to the days when they on some sort of staff positions (paid partly out of state funds and also out of foundation funds). As has been stated, this can only been changed when the new contract is negotiated.

Form a new corporation or LLC and have them hire our major coaches.
If the CDRA can name the building we play in, a similar organization can hire our coaches?

 

[BullDawg]

Just looked at the Collective Bargaining Agreement and Coaches aren’t in bargaining unit now.

 

[huskymedic]

Just looked at the Collective Bargaining Agreement and Coaches aren’t in bargaining unit now.View attachment 109989

Head to Article 1 and Article 37 of current agreement w/ AAUP: https://hr.media.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2597/2024/04/AAUP-contract-7-1-21-6-30-25.pdf

 

[BullDawg]

Head to Article 1 and Article 37 of current agreement w/ AAUP: https://hr.media.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2597/2024/04/AAUP-contract-7-1-21-6-30-25.pdf

Thanks!

 

[BullDawg]

So, @Chief00, in light of what @huskymedic showed me, I see that coaches are in this bargaining unit. To respond to your previous question, most highly paid individuals would prefer to participate in the state run employee benefits (thinking about health insurance and pension plans here, most of these are partially funded by the state, at least that’s true here in Florida). So, there would be a need to have coverage of these by whatever entity did the hiring. There are likely other issues that would need to be considered, such as the status of non-state employees on campus. Interestingly, coaches at South Florida are not in the bargaining unit that covers faculty, etc. There must be an interesting history behind their original inclusion at UCONN. In Florida, employees can’t be required to pay union dues (a so-called Right to Work State), so there’s no financial incentive for the union to want to include them in the unit here; few, if any of them would become dues paying members. I would say that the interests of coaches are vastly different from others in this bargaining unit, but obviously, no one asked me.

 

[Rashadsmask]

FYI there is a new email to season ticket holders regarding the renovations to both facilities. If you have opinions regarding reseating, you can let them know how pleased that you are with your new seats!

 

[Chief00]

So, @Chief00, in light of what @huskymedic showed me, I see that coaches are in this bargaining unit. To respond to your previous question, most highly paid individuals would prefer to participate in the state run employee benefits (thinking about health insurance and pension plans here, most of these are partially funded by the state, at least that’s true here in Florida). So, there would be a need to have coverage of these by whatever entity did the hiring. There are likely other issues that would need to be considered, such as the status of non-state employees on campus. Interestingly, coaches at South Florida are not in the bargaining unit that covers faculty, etc. There must be an interesting history behind their original inclusion at UCONN. In Florida, employees can’t be required to pay union dues (a so-called Right to Work State), so there’s no financial incentive for the union to want to include them in the unit here; few, if any of them would become dues paying members. I would say that the interests of coaches are vastly different from others in this bargaining unit, but obviously, no one asked me.

Your conclusion is logical and unfortunately that’s not the operating mode here.

 

[husky8273]

Head to Article 1 and Article 37 of current agreement w/ AAUP: https://hr.media.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2597/2024/04/AAUP-contract-7-1-21-6-30-25.pdf

Do the termination provisions in Article 37 differ from those in effect when KO was fired? If so, would KO have won his award under Article 37 now in effect?

 

[husky8273]

Head to Article 1 and Article 37 of current agreement w/ AAUP: https://hr.media.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2597/2024/04/AAUP-contract-7-1-21-6-30-25.pdf

The current agreement expires in 3 weeks. Will the new agreement effective 7/1/25 have any changes to Article 37?

 

[Vuce]

good luck to everyone picking this week and next as the process starts up again! Keep us updated on how it's going and what kind of inventory you are looking at

 

[willie99]

I'd like to know what seats are still available, also want to see if the HCC will be sold out to season tickets (I know GP will be)

 

[gampelcrazies]

I'd like to know what seats are still available, also want to see if the HCC will be sold out to season tickets (I know GP will be)

I have access to the civic center through a friend (picked seats for her through my account 2 weeks ago). I will post some info later on when I’m on break