New PAC-12 Forming

[metsfan2323]

Tallying up the pluses and minuses of a football only membership in the PAC:

Pluses:

1) clear path to the playoff which

2) likely helps recruiting

3) More money (we can't make any less)

4) no longer have to deal with the scheduling nightmare which might get worse as landscape changes. A smart AD has to assume no P4 invite will ever come and plan accordingly. We are being blackballed folks.

Minuses:

1) More time flying (4 road games about 120 minutes of extra flying minutes per road game equals 480 extra minutes in the air)

2) Likely 3 basketball games per year against the likes of Gonzaga and San Diego State, Oregon State, Washington State.

3) Probably a more difficult to win football schedule. Let's not forget a lot of our wins the last two years have been against cupcakes. We will miss those games against Rice, FIU, Buffalo and Ball State, although we lose those games too.

4) Exit fees.


At the end of the day the AD has to listen and put much consideration into any invite that comes our way.

 

[mike012]

If we have to pay an exit fee we aren’t joining. At most it should be a 3-4 year deal. PAC gets someone with a pulse in football till they can figure out what they want to do for a long term 9th team. We get a conference schedule till Acc implosion.

 

[buddy]

No, it isn't. Say for example you wanna sell me your 2000 Chevy Cavalier for $100,000. Just because I don't want to buy it doesn't mean I'm blocking you from selling it. It is a perception of value issue.

I think they should consider UConn the Ferrari that is parked in the garage.

 

[Rdkid]

I’m not sure why football only is a problem. 4 road games, schedule BC, Cuse & a couple of cupcakes to keep regional travel & interest. I wouldn’t have Bball give them anything - except an MSG or TD trip for Gonzaga. Who is talking all sports including exit fee? That is nuts.

 

[uconnbill]

Playing the Zags in basketball is not bad, but the rest of the deal is crap. Football needs a conference, but unless this is paying $15 million a year plus for just football, and even then.

 

[Kolumbo]

I was willing to give football in the PAC 12 some consideration but after that video, ooph. If I were SDSU and Boise State I'd be trying to get back in the MWC or go indie. that 8 member conference is dog poop and even though there is a path to the playoffs, it's not coming from west of the Mississippi

 

[Fishy]

I’m not sure why football only is a problem. 4 road games, schedule BC, Cuse & a couple of cupcakes to keep regional travel & interest. I wouldn’t have Bball give them anything - except an MSG or TD trip for Gonzaga. Who is talking all sports including exit fee? That is nuts.

We can't "just schedule" BC and Syracuse or really anyone else. Our super power in scheduling is that we can fit anyone in anywhere. You'll notice how many of our ACC games are scheduled mid and late season.

Well, throw those out because the P12 crams all OOC games into weeks 1-4 and the weeks 5-12 are all conference games.

 

[Fishy]

I was willing to give football in the PAC 12 some consideration but after that video, ooph. If I were SDSU and Boise State I'd be trying to get back in the MWC or go indie. that 8 member conference is dog poop and even though there is a path to the playoffs, it's not coming from west of the Mississippi

Remember back to post-realignment and how miserable we were when faced with year one of the American. Remember how soul crushing all of that was.

That's where Washington State fans are now. Now, imagine you're a Washington State fan and you see that.

They're crawling into the oven.

 

[Kolumbo]

Remember back to post-realignment and how miserable we were when faced with year one of the American. Remember how soul crushing all of that was.

That's where Washington State fans are now. Now, imagine you're a Washington State fan and you see that.

They're crawling into the oven.

I would imagine if anyone has suffered as nearly a painful kick to the crotch as us, it might be wazzu. relegated to the G-X after decades in the conference of champions. there must be some interesting conversations going on up there. sashington in the big 10 and washington state is history. gotta love CR

 

[Kowalski]

Tallying up the pluses and minuses of a football only membership in the PAC:

Pluses:

1) clear path to the playoff which

2) likely helps recruiting

3) More money (we can't make any less)

4) no longer have to deal with the scheduling nightmare which might get worse as landscape changes. A smart AD has to assume no P4 invite will ever come and plan accordingly. We are being blackballed folks.

Minuses:

1) More time flying (4 road games about 120 minutes of extra flying minutes per road game equals 480 extra minutes in the air)

2) Likely 3 basketball games per year against the likes of Gonzaga and San Diego State, Oregon State, Washington State.

3) Probably a more difficult to win football schedule. Let's not forget a lot of our wins the last two years have been against cupcakes. We will miss those games against Rice, FIU, Buffalo and Ball State, although we lose those games too.

4) Exit fees.


At the end of the day the AD has to listen and put much consideration into any invite that comes our way.

Missing games against Rice, FIU, Buffalo and Ball State is in the Minus column? To me, playing now for a potential bid to the Fenway, Pin-Stripe or other mostly meaningless bowl should be high on the Minus list.

I agree with the football only Pluses. Path playoff & money being foremost but the devil’s in the details. And it has to effectively be no exit fee for a P4.

 

[UConnJim]

I'm OK with a scheduling arrangement with the Pac 12. Say 4 football games per year. As an offset, I would offer 1 men's and 1 women's basketball game per season. No way I owuld join the Pac 12 as a football only as it would be too much travel.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Missing games against Rice, FIU, Buffalo and Ball State is in the Minus column? To me, playing now for a potential bid to the Fenway, Pin-Stripe or other mostly meaningless bowl should be high on the Minus list.

I agree with the football only Pluses. Path playoff & money being foremost but the devil’s in the details. And it has to effectively be no exit fee for a P4.

Looking like the top rated G* program regardless of conference champ or not would go into the CFP so that plus likely to go out the window. And either way, it'll likely be only one spot for G* schools, so the odds of it being us is negligible anyway. Regardless, I don't see playoff path as a real big driver in our AD's thinking (though it won't be said publicly).

 

[Kowalski]

Looking like the top rated G* program regardless of conference champ or not would go into the CFP so that plus likely to go out the window. And either way, it'll likely be only one spot for G* schools, so the odds of it being us is negligible anyway. Regardless, I don't see playoff path as a real big driver in our AD's thinking (though it won't be said publicly).

If a G5 doesn’t keep an auto bid, it does take away a big plus. But if it does keep it, it’s exciting for teams in the running and I’d expect either the Pac or AAC champ to be favorites for it most years.

And a correction to my last post - I meant to say currently playing for a meaningless bowl spot (where half of players don’t even show) is on the PLUS list for weighing FB only to the Pac - i.e. only if G5 keeps an auto bid.

 

[BlueWolf25]

If a G5 doesn’t keep an auto bid, it does take away a big plus. But if it does keep it, it’s exciting for teams in the running and I’d expect either the Pac or AAC champ to be favorites for it most years.

And a correction to my last post - I meant to say currently playing for a meaningless bowl spot (where half of players don’t even show) is on the PLUS list for weighing FB only to the Pac - i.e. only if G5 keeps an auto bid.

The G5 will keep an auto bid, but it will likely now be the highest ranked G5 team regardless of whether they win their conference. Say Tulane goes 12-0 and is the only ranked G5 team, but then loses in the AAC championship to a 9-3 USF; Tulane still gets in. So in theory, we don’t need to be in a conference now to make the CFP if we were to go undefeated or maybe 11-1

 

[Kowalski]

The G5 will keep an auto bid, but it will likely now be the highest ranked G5 team regardless of whether they win their conference. Say Tulane goes 12-0 and is the only ranked G5 team, but then loses in the AAC championship to a 9-3 USF; Tulane still gets in. So in theory, we don’t need to be in a conference now to make the CFP if we were to go undefeated or maybe 11-1

I don’t know if it’s changing but the way if effectively works now is you have to be the highest rated G5 conference champion. The only other path is as an at large & UConn has zero shot at an at large bid with their schedule - even if they go undefeated. No non P4 outside of Notre Dane has a legit shot at an at large bid.