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New Head Coach Criteria/Wishes

Nobody knows (yet) how the Kiffin deal is going to play out; whether he takes his staff with him to LSU or chooses to stay at Ole Miss I can think of a lot worse things that giving Charlie Weiss Jr. a long look. Weiss has spent the far majority of his coaching career south of the Mason/Dixon; but, he has NFL experience as a QB coach and has recruiting ties in places where let's face it the best talent tends to germinate. Big green light in my book. Throw Shannon Dawson's (UM OC) name in the mix as well. Maybe Kane Wommack from Alabama. He reigned from South Alabama to take the Alabama DC job under DeBoer.

I've seen a lot of discussion around here about the notion of bringing in a coach that 'knows' the northeast/mid-atlantic region. Frankly, that's not important to me at all because that's not where you find the most competitive teams in college football, FBS or otherwise. We want the best candidate not the guy who appreciates the difference between NJ, NY and CT pizza for god's sake.

And let's be honest, the talent around these parts mostly stinks anyway; the kids that DO get FBS offers ususally never even sniff around UCONN and that's never going to change unless we change our perspective. If we truly want to compete for Big Prizes we are going to have to get more blue chip recruits in the door, through both the portal and HS/JUCO recruiting. More money in the banana stand would also help.

It bears mentioning that Brian Kelly's 'fit' issues at LSU would not at all apply to the reverse situation, where say we brought in a guy like Kane Wommack (Alabama's DC). We're just not that insular and frankly don't have the street cred or history to impose our New Englaned cultural pecularities on what we're looking for in a new head coach.
 
Devland said:
Patricia is an MIT grad. He would probably have the same problems as Belichick in college. I heard one analyst comparing Belichick to a College professor trying to teach PHD level engineering to a freshman science class and not understanding why he is just getting blank stares.
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People always expect instant results. A coach comes, 70 new players, people wonder why the team is losing. It takes a bit to turn a program around.

People should look at Nick Saban's career:

4 years hovering around .500 at MSU before a winning season.
7-6 first year at Alabama.

UNC is not Alabama, but that means UNC should have even MORE patience with anyone they hire.
 
upstater said:
People always expect instant results. A coach comes, 70 new players, people wonder why the team is losing. It takes a bit to turn a program around.

People should look at Nick Saban's career:

4 years hovering around .500 at MSU before a winning season.
7-6 first year at Alabama.

UNC is not Alabama, but that means UNC should have even MORE patience with anyone they hire.
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Saban left MSU for two reasons:

1) He had taken the program as far as he could go given the available resources and competitive landscape;
2) LSU offered him the chance to become Head Coach.

UNC is delusional if they believe BB or any other HC can produce a perennial playoff contender at that program. I see the Heels as a 8-9 win outfit in good years with an ACC championship maybe once or twice a decade. But that's the absolute ceiling. No one is coaching there thinking 'Natty or Bust'.
 
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noeynox said:
Please Lord, no!

Now ain't the time to roll the dice. We will never have OSU athletes across the board. It's not 50/50. Its 80/20 disaster/success. Not a risk i want at this time.
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What you’re telling me it is easy to play national championship caliber defense when you have the best athletes/players in college football. lol
 
LetsGoUC said:
I think Patricia is very high risk, high reward.

He probably has learned a lot after his Detroit stint and has OSU playing the best defense in the country. Obviously they have great talent though.

I could see it being an absolute disaster or being very very successful. no in between. I would be fine with the risk though.
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Really? I don't see much chance of a reward, no matter how big, and see a high chance of failure.
 
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JwittersPAC said:
I agree. There is a good chance Sammis looks like Brock between 2024 to 2025 seasons (Sammis 2025 to 2026). Everybody is now asking for Brock’s head. Next year it will be Sammis.
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It's not Brock. We need some cohesion in that defensive unit without kind of scheme (3-3-5 isn't that easy to master with a bunch of portal guys playing together for thec1st time...just sayin...)
 
It would be interesting to know who was on AD David Benedict's radar in 2021 before Mora reached out to him.
 
ktuck911 said:
That would be amazing... i bet we'd get legit recruits with him...my only concern is can he be that type of leader who's presence can move the needle on a conference affiliation bid? We need a guy like that I think with this new hire.
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We need to go to 3-5 mill a year and up the assistant coach salary pool too. If we want a big name coach UConn has to open the check book
 
metsfan2323 said:
With an NFL prospect at QB and one of the top WR's in the country, Mora lost to Rice, Delaware, got very lucky against FAU, and beat Lembo's Buffalo team by 3, so I guess Mora is incompetent too.

Lembo is highly regarded because he has produced winning records at 4 different stops as head coach, has a 126 - 76 career record and is known to be a special teams Guru.

I get it, we are very much a what have you done lately crowd and Lembo had a losing record this year. If Mora left last year Lembo would be a highly regarded candidate for us because he had a 9 win season in year one at Buffalo. You know who also had a losing record his second year? Jim Mora.

So fickle.
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I like Lembo too. He has won at places where winning is very tough. And in the MAC you usually y play 3 payday games and 1 home and home so a perfect season is 9-3.

He was the winningest coach in Lehigh history when he left. At Elon he had up to that point the school’s only conference winning records ever. Went to Ball State and had the first winning season in 15 years. Had 3 straight winning years and went to back to back bowl games. They had been to 1 in 90 years. Now at Buffalo where he went 9-4 last year. 5-7 this year.

He has been a very good coach for some time and knows how to put together good teams In tough places.
 
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Rich said:
Saban left MSU for two reasons:

1) He had taken the program as far as he could go given the available resources and competitive landscape;
2) LSU offered him the chance to become Head Coach.

UNC is delusional if they believe BB or any other HC can produce a perennial playoff contender at that program. I see the Heels as a 8-9 win outfit in good years with an ACC championship maybe once or twice a decade. But that's the absolute ceiling. No one is coaching there thinking 'Natty or Bust'.
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The reason they think UNC can take off is because of the huge amount of football talent in the Carolinas and Virginia.

But the school and the state are always going to take a chunk of the football budget and pour it into basketball. It's just the way it is.

Still, even if they poured everything they had into football, it takes a year at least to turn things around.
 
JVN said:
It would be interesting to know who was on AD David Benedict's radar in 2021 before Mora reached out to him.
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Sounded like Al Golden but that could have been Golden’s agent trying to get him more money at a different job.
 
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JwittersPAC said:
What you’re telling me it is easy to play national championship caliber defense when you have the best athletes/players in college football. lol
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I don't know what the hell you're trying to say here. What i am saying he sucked ass as a head coach. As a coordinator he won in the NFL with Brady and at Ohio State where they have premier athletes. But you probably think he's better than Mora.
 
Rich said:
Saban left MSU for two reasons:

1) He had taken the program as far as he could go given the available resources and competitive landscape;
2) LSU offered him the chance to become Head Coach.

UNC is delusional if they believe BB or any other HC can produce a perennial playoff contender at that program. I see the Heels as a 8-9 win outfit in good years with an ACC championship maybe once or twice a decade. But that's the absolute ceiling. No one is coaching there thinking 'Natty or Bust'.
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UNC has not won the ACC since Lawrence Taylor was there. It is the most underachieving football program in all of FBS.
 
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