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New! CT Scoreboard Pod with Joe Lunardi

Nice job .. When Joe L is bustin' on you.. You know you got something goin' on..

Special favor.. Need to do a Zoom call with @August_West and Joe.. I'm worried that AW is about to do something silly/irrational because he's worried about our guards.. Can you help the Yard with this ?? JK-LOL

BTW.. I'm with Joe.. I think UConn could run the table goin' into BET
 
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Umami Zen said:
Nice job .. When Joe L is bustin' on you.. You know you got something goin' on..

Special favor.. Need to do a Zoom call with @August_West and Joe.. I'm worried that AW is about to do something silly/irrational because he's worried about our guards.. Can you help the Yard with this ?? JK-LOL

BTW.. I'm with Joe.. I think UConn could run the table goin' into BET
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I’ll be fine. :).

I’m just in “ fool me a dozen times, shame on me “ portion of the season , I wish I was like the saying and stopped at twice.
 
@gwhuskyfan perhaps I need to rewind it but did he mention that we are likely to be in Albany but not likely to be in in the East/MSG region? I assumed everyone who plays in Albany is in the East Region.
 
UofCT said:
@gwhuskyfan perhaps I need to rewind it but did he mention that we are likely to be in Albany but not likely to be in in the East/MSG region? I assumed everyone who plays in Albany is in the East Region.
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Yes similar to last year we were in the West region and played our opening round in Buffalo. Providence was in the Midwest and played their opening round in Buffalo
 
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Enjoyed that....nice job. Joe has a good grasp of UConn.

Interesting about MSG prospects and being dependent on how many Big 12 teams are hovering in 3/4 seed range that need to split in different regions.

Ofcourse UConn would need to get out of Albany first if there so that's top of list before anything else.
 
UofCT said:
@gwhuskyfan perhaps I need to rewind it but did he mention that we are likely to be in Albany but not likely to be in in the East/MSG region? I assumed everyone who plays in Albany is in the East Region.
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Yeah they disentangled the "pod" cities from the regionals. Makes it easier to protect the top seeds for the first few rounds while adhering to the bracketing principles that may force them into a random regional.
 
He didn't really answer the metrics question about how it could impact our seeding, just explained how our metrics are calculated and how they are still high. He may think it'll work itself out (we'll play up to them the remainder of the season or they'll come down to us if we play mediocre).

If we stay top 8 in the metrics, I'll be pretty curious how the committee does treat them.
 
UofCT said:
@gwhuskyfan perhaps I need to rewind it but did he mention that we are likely to be in Albany but not likely to be in in the East/MSG region? I assumed everyone who plays in Albany is in the East Region.
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FWIW.. My interpretation of what Joe was saying is.. The value to UConn-- of MSG court--is much more significant to us than to have to travel (instead of playing in Albany) for the first weekend. ..As per his example--By virtue of a comparably seeded Big 12 team coming to Albany --thereby bumping UConn out of an Albany seeding position-- He felt we could still play well enough to get to MSG for the second weekend. The example that was used (hypothetically) was going to Vegas in first weekend instead of Albany. Home run if Albany-MSG.

All subject to change and surprises are going to happen.. Strictly speculation on his part prior to end of season/BET results.

My takeaway was that Joe could see UConn making it to their second home (his words) at MSG for the second weekend..
 
gwhuskyfan said:
Hi all,

Got some time with Joe Lunardi today to talk UConn and our March paths. Also get into the Big East from a national perspective. Check it out! Audio out in the AM

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You look like you have no neck for about 10% of that video. I found myself entirely too entertained by that 10% while watching.

Well done again, btw.
 
Umami Zen said:
The example that was used (hypothetically) was going to Vegas in first weekend instead of Albany. Homerun if Albany-MSG.
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They wouldn't be going to Vegas until the Sweet16. The first and second round games aren't being held in Vegas, only the West regional
 
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I posted CT Scoreboard at 6:25 this morning, my thread got high jacked. WTF. :-p
 
NotADime89 said:
They wouldn't be going to Vegas until the Sweet16. The first and second round games aren't being held in Vegas, only the West regional
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Was example used in pod ..Not mine..Think their point was someplace other than Albany to support their idea.
 
Umami Zen said:
Was example used in pod ..Not mine
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You must've misunderstood, that wasn't the example given. The example he gave was UConn going to another location for round 1 and 2 (i.e. OH, IA, FL) and ending up at MSG for the Regional.
 
Umami Zen said:
FWIW.. My interpretation of what Joe was saying is.. The value to UConn-- of MSG court--is much more significant to us than to have to travel (instead of playing in Albany) for the first weekend. ..As per his example--By virtue of a comparably seeded Big 12 team coming to Albany --thereby bumping UConn out of an Albany seeding position-- He felt we could still play well enough to get to MSG for the second weekend. The example that was used (hypothetically) was going to Vegas in first weekend instead of Albany. Home run if Albany-MSG.

All subject to change and surprises are going to happen.. Strictly speculation on his part prior to end of season/BET results.

My takeaway was that Joe could see UConn making it to their second home (his words) at MSG for the second weekend..
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Vegas is the West Regional (3rd & 4th rds)....Joe L was saying Albany is very likely for first 2 rounds but MSG is more precarious for 3rd & 4th. Vegas or any other Regional besides MSG may be more likely after Albany. All dependent on how UConn finishes up season....outside shot at 2 seed if win BET so if UConn a 2 or 3 seed maybe more likely to stay in East.

Everything is IF's right now depending on how next month goes so who knows....let's just make the Sweet 16, could be in Alaska for all I care.
 
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NotADime89 said:
You must've misunderstood, that wasn't the example given. The example he gave was UConn going to another location for round 1 and 2 (i.e. OH, IA, FL) and ending up at MSG for the Regional.
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I understood them to say..A potential for a non-Albany site -- for first weekend --If the right combination of things went down.. And then on to MSG.. They did not say a Vegas site for second weekend instead of MSG..

Believe based on your correction of your above post(to MSG) that we are agreeing

The choice of Vegas was theirs not mine.
 
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gwhuskyfan said:
To clarify, I had asked so Albany could lead to Vegas... to which his answer was yes. He was a lot more confident in Albany R1/2 than MSG for the next weekend.
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Thanks for clarification.. What I thought I heard was apparently misinterpreted by me.. My bad.
 
Umami Zen said:
I understood them to say..A potential for a non-Albany site -- for first weekend --If the right combination of things went down.. And then on to MSG.. They did not say a Vegas site for second weekend instead of MSG..

Believe based on your correction of your above post(to MSG) that we are agreeing

The choice of Vegas was theirs not mine.
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Go back and listen...Vegas was just thrown out as an example of another Regional besides MSG. The first 2 rounds they try to keep every school as close as possible to home regardless of seeding...hence likelihood of Alabany.
 
Hi-Low said:
Go back and listen...Vegas was just thrown out as an example of another Regional besides MSG. The first 2 rounds they try to keep every school as close as possible to home regardless of seeding...hence likelihood of Alabany.
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My interpretation was wrong.. Not dying on this hill.. Beat Seton Hill
 
Lunardi seems to indicate that UConn's chance of MSG for the regional is going to be heavily based on how UConn finishes season but also what happens in the Big 12.

The rule is if you face a team 3 times during the season you can't face them until the Elite Eight. If you face a team 2 times during the season you can't face them until the Sweet Sixteen.

So taking that into account, assuming the 6 really good teams at the top of the Big 12 are going to face each other a 3rd time in some cases in the Big 12 tournament., meaning let's say Kansas as a 1 seed cannot have a Big 12 team be a 4 or a 5 in their region so they would have to go somewhere outside the Midwest. At the same time take a Iowa State that is right around a 4 seed today cannot face Kansas State or Texas or Baylor or Kansas or TCU until the Sweet Sixteen or later.

This is a long winded way of saying it's going to get crowded in the Midwest, West and South regionals. Today, the schools that most conflict with UConn being a 4 or 5 in the West are Iowa State and TCU.

What I take from all of this is we need those schools to drop out a bit to more 6 seed or later so as to not interfere with UConn's placement while UConn needs to finish strong and secure a 4 seed or better and ensure placement in Albany at a minimum.

Might be other solutions to takeaway from this, but that's the easiest path to Albany / MSG: win and root against ISU, TCU and even Kansas State to an extent. ISU has lost 4 of their last 5, Kansas State has lost 3 of their last 4, and TCU has lost 4 of their last 5. All with worse NET and KP than UConn; all getting destroyed by their own conference. One of whom already lost head to head v UConn.

Another thing UConn has going for it as Lunardi notes is UConn is the only good team in the northeast. So the Big 12 (and UConn itself) are the only impediments.

Feel free to poke holes in this logic since I do not know all the intricacies of bracketology.
 
Storrs South said:
Lunardi seems to indicate that UConn's chance of MSG for the regional is going to be heavily based on how UConn finishes season but also what happens in the Big 12.

The rule is if you face a team 3 times during the season you can't face them until the Elite Eight. If you face a team 2 times during the season you can't face them until the Sweet Sixteen.

So taking that into account, assuming the 6 really good teams at the top of the Big 12 are going to face each other a 3rd time in some cases in the Big 12 tournament., meaning let's say Kansas as a 1 seed cannot have a Big 12 team be a 4 or a 5 in their region so they would have to go somewhere outside the Midwest. At the same time take a Iowa State that is right around a 4 seed today cannot face Kansas State or Texas or Baylor or Kansas or TCU until the Sweet Sixteen or later.

This is a long winded way of saying it's going to get crowded in the Midwest, West and South regionals. Today, the schools that most conflict with UConn being a 4 or 5 in the West are Iowa State and TCU.

What I take from all of this is we need those schools to drop out a bit to more 6 seed or later so as to not interfere with UConn's placement while UConn needs to finish strong and secure a 4 seed or better and ensure placement in Albany at a minimum.

Might be other solutions to takeaway from this, but that's the easiest path to Albany / MSG: win and root against ISU, TCU and even Kansas State to an extent. ISU has lost 4 of their last 5, Kansas State has lost 3 of their last 4, and TCU has lost 4 of their last 5. All with worse NET and KP than UConn; all getting destroyed by their own conference. One of whom already lost head to head v UConn.

Another thing UConn has going for it as Lunardi notes is UConn is the only good team in the northeast. So the Big 12 (and UConn itself) are the only impediments.

Feel free to poke holes in this logic since I do not know all the intricacies of bracketology.
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Thought you did an excellent job..More expansive and understandable.. First two paragraphs tell it all.. Not a bracketologist myself.. Gotta keep winning..
 
Storrs South said:
Lunardi seems to indicate that UConn's chance of MSG for the regional is going to be heavily based on how UConn finishes season but also what happens in the Big 12.

The rule is if you face a team 3 times during the season you can't face them until the Elite Eight. If you face a team 2 times during the season you can't face them until the Sweet Sixteen.

So taking that into account, assuming the 6 really good teams at the top of the Big 12 are going to face each other a 3rd time in some cases in the Big 12 tournament., meaning let's say Kansas as a 1 seed cannot have a Big 12 team be a 4 or a 5 in their region so they would have to go somewhere outside the Midwest. At the same time take a Iowa State that is right around a 4 seed today cannot face Kansas State or Texas or Baylor or Kansas or TCU until the Sweet Sixteen or later.

This is a long winded way of saying it's going to get crowded in the Midwest, West and South regionals. Today, the schools that most conflict with UConn being a 4 or 5 in the West are Iowa State and TCU.

What I take from all of this is we need those schools to drop out a bit to more 6 seed or later so as to not interfere with UConn's placement while UConn needs to finish strong and secure a 4 seed or better and ensure placement in Albany at a minimum.

Might be other solutions to takeaway from this, but that's the easiest path to Albany / MSG: win and root against ISU, TCU and even Kansas State to an extent. ISU has lost 4 of their last 5, Kansas State has lost 3 of their last 4, and TCU has lost 4 of their last 5. All with worse NET and KP than UConn; all getting destroyed by their own conference. One of whom already lost head to head v UConn.

Another thing UConn has going for it as Lunardi notes is UConn is the only good team in the northeast. So the Big 12 (and UConn itself) are the only impediments.

Feel free to poke holes in this logic since I do not know all the intricacies of bracketology.
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This is all too confusing for me. I hope the committee uses a software to help them with this. Doing all these mental gymnastics on paper would be difficult
 
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aburks41 said:
This is all too confusing for me. I hope the committee uses a software to help them with this. Doing all these mental gymnastics on paper would be difficult
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They do. It has conditional formatting built in that highlights when something is in conflict.
 
The way I understand it, if we get a top 4 seed we're guaranteed Albany, correct? Or is it just likely that we get our preferred pod?
 
An easier solution I just thought of: no Big 12 team gets a 1 seed (particularly Kansas and Texas who have the best shot at it). 2 and 3 seeds don't collide with 4 and 5 seeds until the Elite Eight so if there are no Big 12 1 seeds, that means all 4 and 5 seeds are unencumbered by conference conflicts of the Big 12. So the easiest is for Kansas to fall off the 1 line. Lunardi has Kansas as his last 1 seed today playing OKST tonight. Says they don't fall off 1 line even if they lose tonight. 3 really tough games coming up for them @ OKST, home v. Baylor, @ TCU.

 
Storrs South said:
An easier solution I just thought of: no Big 12 team gets a 1 seed (particularly Kansas and Texas who have the best shot at it). 2 and 3 seeds don't collide with 4 and 5 seeds until the Elite Eight so if there are no Big 12 1 seeds, that means all 4 and 5 seeds are unencumbered by conference conflicts of the Big 12. So the easiest is for Kansas to fall off the 1 line. Lunardi has Kansas as his last 1 seed today playing OKST tonight. Says they don't fall off 1 line even if they lose tonight. 3 really tough games coming up for them @ OKST, home v. Baylor, @ TCU.

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I like that Lunardi has UConn as the highest 4 seed....have a legit shot at a 3 seed if he's right or even a 2 seed if finish strong and win BET.
 
Hi-Low said:
I like that Lunardi has UConn as the highest 4 seed....have a legit shot at a 3 seed if he's right or even a 2 seed if finish strong and win BET.
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If we win out hard pressed not to be a 2 seed. Even say we win out but lose in BE final I would say a 3 seed gun to my head.

Of course depends on how we would win and what other teams do. Maybe a tall ask but doable. A 3 or 2 seed a fair bit easier path to the FF.
 
So much depends on the games that are left. If they go on a five game winning streak and by some miracle make a run to the final I think they have a legit shot at a 2 seed. If they were a poker player they would have a big range. 2 seed to 7 seed maybe 8 seed if we go 3-2 and then go 1-1 in BE tourney. That is way too many moving parts. Right now one game at a time and hopefully we can pile up some wins.
 
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