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Can anyone explain how we‘re ranked higher than Purdue with 3 Q1 wins?
 
big east rankings:

uconn - #2
creighton - #33
marquette - #37
xavier - #48
butler - #63
sju - #71
shu - #121
peecee - #145
nova - #160
depaul - #161
georgetown - yikes
 
mussels said:
Can anyone explain how we‘re ranked higher than Purdue with 3 Q1 wins?
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NET includes winning margin, as well as offensive and defensive effeciency.

i think it's actually one of the reasons we choose to schedule weaker opponents in the OOC and play our starters for longer. putting up huge margins of victory improves our metrics -- my understanding is that uconn studies the analytics closely and is very cognizant of this.

EDIT: disregard the second part -- i guess NET caps margin of victory at 10 points.

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Our opponents so far:
Alabama (8)-Quad 1
Iowa State (22)-Quad 1
Oklahoma State (74)-Quad 2
Oregon (91)-Quad 2
UNC Wilmington (102)-Quad 3
Buffalo (185)-Quad 4
BU (218)-Quad 4
Stonehill (252)-Quad 4
Delaware State (354)-Quad 4

I fear that the Oregon and Okie State wins are going to drop to Quad 3. Need Florida (69)-Quad 1 to stay in the top 75.
 
elmcityboy said:
NET includes winning margin, as well as offensive and defensive effeciency.

i think it's actually one of the reasons we choose to schedule weaker opponents in the OOC and play our starters for longer. putting up huge margins of victory improves our metrics -- my understanding is that uconn studies the analytics closely and is very cognizant of this.

www.ncaa.com

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.
www.ncaa.com www.ncaa.com
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Glad you posted this. Be prepared for a debate. My advice is don’t respond.
 
elmcityboy said:
NET includes winning margin, as well as offensive and defensive effeciency.

i think it's actually one of the reasons we choose to schedule weaker opponents in the OOC and play our starters for longer. putting up huge margins of victory improves our metrics -- my understanding is that uconn studies the analytics closely and is very cognizant of this.

www.ncaa.com

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.
www.ncaa.com www.ncaa.com
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NET stops counting after a margin of 10. It works out well this season as we have beaten everyone by at least 10. However, in the future substituting a team or two from the Ivy, Southern, CAA, or MAAC in place of Patriot, NEC, and MEAC is still going to result in 10+ point wins against potential Quad 3 teams instead of Quad 4.
 
elmcityboy said:
big east rankings:

uconn - #2
creighton - #33
marquette - #37
xavier - #48
butler - #63
sju - #71
shu - #121
peecee - #145
nova - #160
depaul - #161
georgetown - yikes
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No Quad 1 home wins in the BE as of right now.
 
shizzle787 said:
NET stops counting after a margin of 10. It works out well this season as we have beaten everyone by at least 10. However, in the future substituting a team or two from the Ivy, Southern, CAA, or MAAC in place of Patriot, NEC, and MEAC is still going to result in 10+ point wins against potential Quad 3 teams instead of Quad 4.
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interesting, i actually didn't know this. editing my original post.

obviously, MOV still factors into our high ranking, but has less to do with how we performed in the early season games.
 
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Sam Houston is 7-1 with two wins v. D2 teams and they’re ranked Top 10 in NET lol
 
CTBasketball said:
Sam Houston is 7-1 with two wins v. D2 teams and they’re ranked Top 10 in NET lol
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yeah this is insane, but they also have some crazy numbers! top 5 in all or most defensive and rebouding metrics and #1 in scoring margin somehow.
 
shizzle787 said:
Our opponents so far:
Alabama (8)-Quad 1
Iowa State (22)-Quad 1
Oklahoma State (74)-Quad 2
Oregon (91)-Quad 2
UNC Wilmington (102)-Quad 3
Buffalo (185)-Quad 4
BU (218)-Quad 4
Stonehill (252)-Quad 4
Delaware State (354)-Quad 4

I fear that the Oregon and Okie State wins are going to drop to Quad 3. Need Florida (69)-Quad 1 to stay in the top 75.
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Oregon will get better as they get healthy. Oklahoma State will pick up some big wins in the B12 and bump their rating up too. I wouldn't be worried about those
 
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With the way this season is going and our expectations, I don’t think we need to worry about Q2 games going into Q3.

We know Alabama and ISU will remain Q1 wins all season barring any crazy meltdowns

We need to beat Florida, but it’s a coin flip if that will be Q1 or Q2 as the season goes on.

We get Q1’s on the road vs Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, and as it stands Butler and SJU. So that’s 3 guaranteed Q1’s and up to 5. I’m confident Creighton will end up being a Q1 game at home. That loss yesterday hurt, but was uncharacteristic

So as few as 5, as many as 8. Win the ones we’re supposed to win (Florida and every road BE game not named Creighton) and we could see anywhere from 4-1 to 7-1 Q1 record.

Let’s average it out and round it up to 7. Worst case 4-3, best case 6-1 (obviously 7-0 is best case but I’m counting @ Creighton as a loss)

Pretty solid
 
shizzle787 said:
NET stops counting after a margin of 10. It works out well this season as we have beaten everyone by at least 10. However, in the future substituting a team or two from the Ivy, Southern, CAA, or MAAC in place of Patriot, NEC, and MEAC is still going to result in 10+ point wins against potential Quad 3 teams instead of Quad 4.
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One section of the original NET capped victory margin at 10 points. But they removed that section from the formula in 2020.

Somewhere around half the formula is adjusted efficiency, which is in its essence per possession margin of victory (but adjusted for opponent and venue).

Big margins are extremely important to NET rankings.
 
Florida on the road will almost certainly end up as a Q1 right? Overall, we just need to keep winning and we will be a top seed. Our strength of schedule will definitely be better than Gonzaga is most years and NET never seems to punish them
 
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Had to look at Sam Houston. They have a 1 pt win on Oklahoma's home court, and, a 10 point win on Utah's home court where Utah beat Arizona solidly. Not bad. Sam Houston plays on Oklahoma State's home court tomorrow night .
 
elmcityboy said:
big east rankings:

uconn - #2
creighton - #33
marquette - #37
xavier - #48
butler - #63
sju - #71
shu - #121
peecee - #145
nova - #160
depaul - #161
georgetown - yikes
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It is early but yikes to everyone in the Big East except UCONN
 
Get a Job said:
Can't believe it took 26 posts for someone to mention this. Sample size, people! Also, wildly disparate schedules.
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Yeah, I mean, that's pretty obvious. We can still talk about it though. What else is there to do? It's interesting to see where the metrics have everyone at ~1/3 of the way through the regular season.
 
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