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NET Rankings - UConn vs Gonzaga

JungleLobo said:
With Creighton being the best Quad 2 and Columbia now the 2nd to best quad 4 (was quad 3), expecting UConn to slide to #3 in a couple of hours on AP and #4 on Coaches.
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Doubt it. AP poll is reactionary and we just beat Creighton on the road by 27 on prime time FOX. Although it will be “close” points-wise from the voters.
 
The NET highly values adjusted offense and defense efficiency. When you do the math those two are equivalent to margin of victory adjusted by how good the team is and is similar to Kenpom and Torvik. When you look at those two rankings you can see that how you adjust for the quality of the other team can affect the rankings. I think the NET gives too much credit to beating bad teams by a lot.
 
RuffRuff said:
Likely 4. All the good teams are consolidated in the top 15-16 teams. 4 seeds will be quality opponents, think Kansas, Vandy, BYU. Then you'll have to beat a 2/3 seed to get to the F4, along with those two games.
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well...the committee will this up and someone will get st louis as their 4 and miami OH as their 2.
 
Back in the early days of computing they used to say GIGO. Garbage in= Garbage out. Most of these metrics are just nonsense. At the end of the day does it really matter if UConn beats Creighton by 15 when the Computers and the Draft Kings projected they’d win by 17? They are taking systems that were designed to set lines in Vegas (and by Mickey the Rat, too) and using them to decide how to rank teams.
 
superjohn said:
As a program Gonzaga went from Cinderella to legit contender to now the most overrated program in the country. They have zero chance of winning it all.

Actually I take that back, St. Mary's is the most overrated program in the country. We always hear about how good they are and they've made one sweet 16 in the past 67 years.
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St. Mary’s is good for what it otherwise is, the program itself ain’t spectacular
 
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FightOnCT said:
St. Mary’s is good for what it otherwise is, the program itself ain’t spectacular
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St Mary's plays a gimmicky methodical style that somehow fares well in the metrics, particularly on defense. It's a slow, grind it out style that makes the other team defend and challenges their focus. It's not entirely unlike what Hurley is doing but with a much better talent. I mean it's smart in a lot of ways, and will fool the metrics, but doesn't have a chance once they go up against real competition.
 
RuffRuff said:
St Mary's plays a gimmicky methodical style that somehow fares well in the metrics, particularly on defense. It's a slow, grind it out style that makes the other team defend and challenges their focus. It's not entirely unlike what Hurley is doing but with a much better talent. I mean it's smart in a lot of ways, and will fool the metrics, but doesn't have a chance once they go up against real competition.
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Nice work with a 4 day thread where the underlying premise is that the WCC is better than the Big East. This is a big upgrade from your usual Big East trolling.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Nice work with a 4 day thread where the underlying premise is that the WCC is better than the Big East. This is a big upgrade from your usual Big East trolling.
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You're not going to catch me pumping up the WCC.

Yet I'm surprised you're still trying to convince everyone the BE is any good. The metrics right now are saying it's closer to the WAC than it is the B12/B10.
 
RuffRuff said:
You're not going to catch me pumping up the WCC.

Yet I'm surprised you're still trying to convince everyone the BE is any good. The metrics right now are saying it's closer to the WAC than it is the B12/B10.
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Not even close. Torvik and EvanMiya show quite the opposite.
 
superjohn said:
As a program Gonzaga went from Cinderella to legit contender to now the most overrated program in the country. They have zero chance of winning it all.

Actually I take that back, St. Mary's is the most overrated program in the country. We always hear about how good they are and they've made one sweet 16 in the past 67 years.
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was watching St Louis vs Davidson the other night and the announcers were discussing St Louis' at large chances, where they might fall in the seeding compared to other mid-majors and St Mary's was brought up. St Mary's is in the top 30 of the net without a single Quad 1 win and it seems like their net ranking is inflated every year.
 
aceboon said:
was watching St Louis vs Davidson the other night and the announcers were discussing St Louis' at large chances, where they might fall in the seeding compared to other mid-majors and St Mary's was brought up. St Mary's is in the top 30 of the net without a single Quad 1 win and it seems like their net ranking is inflated every year.
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They are everyone’s dream match up in March. Some lucky 3 seed gets a free win against them as a 6.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
They are everyone’s dream match up in March. Some lucky 3 seed gets a free win against them as a 6.
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They were scaring the pants off me in the 2023 NCAA. Then their leading scorer got hurt and left the game. The kind of break you need to win the tourney.
 
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We are clearly in the top 5 conferences, sure we are last but the spread is about the same as the gap between us and the 6th place conference. Get off it RuffRuff you are not making a good point.
 
Icehawk said:
We are clearly in the top 5 conferences, sure we are last but the spread is about the same as the gap between us and the 6th place conference. Get off it RuffRuff you are not making a good point.
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As you can see, I wasn't the one that made the point. We are the 5th best conference no doubt, and closer to the 6th than the 2nd.
 
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