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NE Football said:
The American conference is our best chance at this point. It puts us in a position to get the G5 autobid into the CFP. No reason Husky Nation couldn’t dominate the G5. The key is getting into the CFP. Basketball will be fine in the American
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Nah, we just need to be patient and wait. Things will start moving in 2030. Maybe sooner if conferences want to try to make preliminary moves anticipating what might be advantageous, but I doubt it.

UConn hired the right football coach. We'll be good enough next year and hopefully much better there after.

Both basketball teams will continue to win.

There real question is will we be in a good power 4 or the remnants of what used to be the ACC. That's really what we're most likely looking at

As much as I hear about the bigger guys creating their own football league, the more I doubt it will happen. That's going to need compliance and I think they are happier controlling the weak NCAA than trying to create a fair league.
 
B1GEast said:
Nah, we just need to be patient and wait. Things will start moving in 2030. Maybe sooner if conferences want to try to make preliminary moves anticipating what might be advantageous, but I doubt it.

UConn hired the right football coach. We'll be good enough next year and hopefully much better there after.

Both basketball teams will continue to win.

There real question is will we be in a good power 4 or the remnants of what used to be the ACC. That's really what we're most likely looking at

As much as I hear about the bigger guys creating their own football league, the more I doubt it will happen. That's going to need compliance and I think they are happier controlling the weak NCAA than trying to create a fair league.
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I think there'll be moves before 2030 because it will give the conferences more leverage in their media negotiations a year or two before contracts expire.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I think there'll be moves before 2030 because it will give the conferences more leverage in their media negotiations a year or two before contracts expire.
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It's possible, but more than likely, conferences will wait and see what the new basketball contract will be. If it's as big as many think, the current contract is undervalued by over a billion, so if the contract is $2 billion, some bigger conference may view UConn differently. That's a lot trailing units on both the men's and womens programs when they win.
 
B1GEast said:
It's possible, but more than likely, conferences will wait and see what the new basketball contract will be. If it's as big as many think, the current contract is undervalued by over a billion, so if the contract is $2 billion, some bigger conference may view UConn differently. That's a lot trailing units on both the men's and womens programs when they win.
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What basketball contract are you talking about? If you're referring to the March Madness contract, it ends in 2032.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I think there'll be moves before 2030 because it will give the conferences more leverage in their media negotiations a year or two before contracts expire.
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Conferences won’t move unless they have feedback from the media partners.
Nobody will add a school assuming it’s a bigger payout.
I do agree that things won’t go until the expiration. That was what killed the PAC.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
What basketball contract are you talking about? If you're referring to the March Madness contract, it ends in 2032.
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Yes correct, my mistake. I always get that confused with the reduced ACC GOR fee that happens in 2030.
 
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B1GEast said:
Yes correct, my mistake. I always get that confused with the reduced ACC GOR fee that happens in 2030.
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No worries. I think the March Madness contract was extended to "only" 2030 because it lined it up to when the individual P4 media contracts are due to expire. It makes it tidy, eh?!... I think the Big10 and maybe the SEC will bring in new schools a couple years before 2030 at reduced (40-60%) annual payouts. It'll become more tenable for the top ACC schools to leave due to reduced buyout amount in the 2028 time frame. It all lines up. Maybe we are brought in to backfill the ACC departures in that time frame?
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
No worries. I think the March Madness contract was extended to "only" 2030 because it lined it up to when the individual P4 media contracts are due to expire. It makes it tidy, eh?!... I think the Big10 and maybe the SEC will bring in new schools a couple years before 2030 at reduced (40-60%) annual payouts. It'll become more tenable for the top ACC schools to leave due to reduced buyout amount in the 2028 time frame. It all lines up. Maybe we are brought in to backfill the ACC departures in that time frame?
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The way they grabbed Cal, Stanford and SMU over us, it wouldn't surprise me if they did the same.
 
B1GEast said:
Yes correct, my mistake. I always get that confused with the reduced ACC GOR fee that happens in 2030.
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The ACC GOR expires in 2036. It drops to 75 million in 2030. I think that's what you're thinking of.
 
CL82 said:
The ACC GOR expires in 2036. It drops to 75 million in 2030. I think that's what you're thinking of.
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Yup. That drop might facilitate the ACC's demise. We know FSU will pay the reduced fee. The question is does the B1G care. The Big 12 would certainly want them, but it seems as though FSU wants a seat at either of the big two conferences table
 
Even the "remnants" of the ACC would be better for UConn than the American (AAC). Travel to AAC locations is only marginally more appealing than travel to the P4 Big 12, a much bigger, and better, football conference................and a terrific (would be best-in-country with us, both men and women) basketball league. If a bid to the Big 12 never materializes, then................the ACC is geographically, and academically, our best fit...........even if becomes the Big East 2.0 in football.

The Big East 2.0 would be a major upgrade to Independence.
 
Viet Vet said:
Even the "remnants" of the ACC would be better for UConn than the American (AAC). Travel to AAC locations is only marginally more appealing than travel to the P4 Big 12, a much bigger, and better, football conference................and a terrific (would be best-in-country with us, both men and women) basketball league. If a bid to the Big 12 never materializes, then................the ACC is geographically, and academically, our best fit...........even if becomes the Big East 2.0 in football.

The Big East 2.0 would be a major upgrade to Independence.
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If such a conference would include the BB powerhouses (Duke, UNC etc.) from the ACC and the schools/conferences can monetize BB ala CFP, then we're talking! MM brings in over $1b per year and IMO too much of it goes to the NCAA. (Interestingly, the Big 12 is a big component of the top 25 currently {6 teams?}. So BB would be in the thick of it if we ended up there instead!)
 
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Last year, Orange Bowl not the championship game, no massive swelling of resuscitated scUM bandwagoners, and no historic performance from traditional B1G doormat Indiana.
 
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B1GEast said:
Imagine if Virginia won the ACC title, they would have gotten in over Miami
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IF, yes a big if given the games they played, the committee kept everything the same UVA & Miami would’ve made it and JMU would have been out
 
To become an AAU university, UConn needs to
significantly boost its research funding, faculty impact(especially National Academies members), scholarly output, and graduate education quality, as membership is by invitation only, focusing on broad, high-quality research and scholarship rather than direct applications, though Connecticut legislation encourages an action plan. UConn must excel in metrics like grants, faculty recognition, research impact, and student outcomes, demonstrating it surpasses current members, with the AAU's Membership Committee periodically assessing institutions for potential invitation.
Key Areas UConn Must Strengthen:
  1. Research Funding & Impact:Increase federal and private research grants and the overall impact of its research portfolio.
  2. Faculty Excellence: Have a higher proportion of faculty elected to prestigious bodies like the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.
  3. Graduate Education: Enhance the breadth and quality of its graduate programs.
  4. Scholarly Output: Demonstrate significant and high-quality research and scholarship across many fields.
  5. Student Outcomes: Show strong results in student success and preparedness for advanced roles.
The AAU Process (Invitation Only):
  • No Direct Application: Universities cannot apply; they must be invited.
  • Standing Committee Review: The AAU's Membership Committee periodically evaluates universities, looking for institutions whose research and education profiles exceed current members.
  • Invitation & Vote: If a university is identified, the committee recommends it, and a three-fourths vote by current members is required for invitation.
UConn's Current Stance:
  • While UConn desires to be recognized as a top research university and has legislative support for an action plan, officials avoid actively campaigning for AAU membership, as it's considered poor form.
  • The focus remains on achieving excellence in research and scholarship to naturally warrant consideration.
 
ConnMotors said:
UConn desires to be recognized as a top research university
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Connecticut is "recognized as a top research university." UConn Is a Carnegie R1 university. That puts it in the highest tier in the Carnegie Classification for doctoral universities, which requires massive research spending, numerous doctoral degrees, extensive grant acquisition, and a major focus on groundbreaking research, attracting top faculty and students. It's a prestigious label signaling a university's significant contributions to knowledge and is a difficult status to attain and maintain.
 
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Hamms30 said:
what city are we looking out over?
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mostly Fort Lauderdale ... Florida is so flat, I can see Chile from here too

Hard Rock Stadium is in Miami Gardens (not Miami), left of the TV, about 20 miles out

... and while we're at it, Messi & Inter Miami CF play in Fort Lauderdale (for now) ... about 6 miles right of the TV
 
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hank970 said:
Every school in the country with a heartbeat is recognized as R1. To see how UConn compares with other R1 schools, you need to

As of 2025, Carnegie designates any school which expends $50 million or more on research and development and graduates more than 70 PhDs per year as R1. The list is long (just about any school with a heartbeat), and expenditures above the bottom threshold vary widely. How does UConn compare? Schools at or near the top of the list are spending $1.5 billion on R&D annually, and those numbers in some cases are uncharacteristically low because the current administration has purposely withheld or clawed back funds from them due to its preoccupation with DEI concerns.
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Ahhh, I hear bullspit being espoused by the UConn hater. There are over 4000 colleges/universities in the USA, but only 187 are designated as R1 (<5%), so this line that "Every school in the country with a heartbeat is recognized as R1." is not only wrong but serves to illustrate your mass bias against UConn and ignorance of basic facts. You may crawl back under your rock.
 
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