Need to get into P4 conference

[NE Football]

I think a fair evaluation of the P4 plus ND - 68 teams is that 25% are elite, blue bloods and the other 75% are a level below. 2/3 thirds of the B1G, 1/3 third of the SEC teams are no better than the entire Big 12 and 14 out of 17 ACC teams.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

The ACC — like every Power conference — is really just asking one thing: will adding UConn make everyone more money? So far, their answer has been “no.” Winning more games definitely helps UConn’s image, but it’s not enough on its own to change the bigger money picture that drives these realignment decisions.

Didn’t Yormark hire a consulting firm that proved that UConn was profitable if added to the Big 12? And they still voted no. Sorry but I’m not buying this argument.

 

[Horatio]

What does "in says" mean?

Typo

 

[NHUConnfan]

Half this board said UConn was finished competing in sports when Cuse, Pitt and the others went to the ACC.

These aren't exactly serious people.

No offense but there are also like several other things that have since transpired that have pushed us closer into "will college athletics continue to exist" question since then. I'm worried if Congress finally does pass the SCORE Act that UConn might not survive the bloodbath that will ensue with the majority of college athletics programs. Not enough people realize how much worse the current clusterfester could get.

 

[NHUConnfan]

At the moment it has more to do with basketball than football. If you think the SEC and Big10 are going to only be happy with dominating football, I think you are wrong. basketball is next.

They've said as much if folks have been paying attention.

 

[Zerostatic]

We just have to keep winning 6+ college football games a season and as long as the Men and Women Bball teams remain ranked top 25 caliber teams, I'm feeling pretty good that we'll get into either the Big XII or ACC when realignment strikes again. Personally, I'd be pushing for the Big XII hard right now giving them whatever reduced share sweetheart deal they want. I think the Big XII is going to differentiate itself from the ACC in the next wave of conference realignment in 2030 but even if we do end up in an ACC without Miami, Florida State and Clemson it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Geographically it's what makes sense and it will make me less sad leave the Big East if we go to a conference where have some regional rivals.

 

[superjohn]

No offense but there are also like several other things that have since transpired that have pushed us closer into "will college athletics continue to exist" question since then. I'm worried if Congress finally does pass the SCORE Act that UConn might not survive the bloodbath that will ensue with the majority of college athletics programs. Not enough people realize how much worse the current clusterfester could get.

What does this even mean?

 

[superjohn]

They've said as much if folks have been paying attention.

The SEC was the best basketball conference last year of course their Commissioner is going to hype up the conference.

 

[NHUConnfan]

What does this even mean?

I guess you haven't been paying attention to how the entire economics of college athletics is about to be massively disrupted then?

The reason college athletics thrive is precisely because college athletes are not employees and they don't have to treat them like that. The second college athletes get legally recognized as employees, they are unionizing en masse and many many many universities will just pull the plug because they already lose money on athletics.

We've been inching towards this over the last decade but started running towards this outcome in the last few years.

 

[NHUConnfan]

The SEC was the best basketball conference last year of course their Commissioner is going to hype up the conference.

It's been a decade long project. Do I need to start pulling the sources from 2016 about how they were going to start focusing on basketball after they got embarrassed?

The future of college athletics is the B1G and SEC and anyone else will be lucky to be relevant. This is a long game but it's a game they're winning.

 

[Derucky]

If the CFP selections tell us anything, it tells us that it’s run by the P4. What happened in the CFP, with a 3 loss Alabama, that got dominated yesterday and barely beat a 5-7 team in their previous game, is a foreshadowing of college basketball in the near future. The big boys will run everything and the Big East, like independent ND, in football, will get only what the big boys are forced to give them

No one seems to remember Alabama's loss to FSU, either.

 

[NE Football]

The B1G has suggested a 24 team playoff with the P4 each getting 4 automatic bids, the G6 getting 2 and 6 at large bids. I think there is a good chance that this becomes the new model for 2027.

In this case, UConn has to join a G6 conference. It’s a very plausible path to the CFP.

 

[superjohn]

It's been a decade long project. Do I need to start pulling the sources from 2016 about how they were going to start focusing on basketball after they got embarrassed?

The future of college athletics is the B1G and SEC and anyone else will be lucky to be relevant. This is a long game but it's a game they're winning.

Of course they're focusing on football and basketball but this idea that UConn is going to go away is incredibly stupid.

 

[uconnyankee]

Now you are just ranting. How was Syracuse a leech in the Big East? Even BC was decent. UCF and Cincinnati were successful in the AAC. UConn was the one who stunk.

By the way, it's OK to rant. Get it out. We are all frustrated with what happened to UConn in realignment.

UConn fb was on the rise. The problem is/was, the schools chosen had tradition on their side. UConn FB was considered a neophyte and unworthy of an invite.

The way in which schools are valued has changed drastically as the media rights deals have changed.

 

[CL82]

At the moment it has more to do with basketball than football. If you think the SEC and Big10 are going to only be happy with dominating football, I think you are wrong. basketball is next.

I don't know if basketball is next, but it clearly is the low hanging fruit which is ripe for the picking. Right now it looks like the plan is to slowly pressure the NCAA to make concessions which make the P2's continue association with it palatable to them. "Option B" is better for us where they blow the existing system up and create something new. I think our basketball dominance would make us at least somewhat hard to leave on the outside, looking in, especially if our admission was coupled with cutting loose existing deadweight.

 

[B1GEast]

With all the expansion mistakes of universities not adding value by inviting the wrong universities, creating a payout tiered structure will fix some of this.

People think that having a strong conference from top to bottom in football is the answer, but for the SEC it could lead to cannibalism where teams just beat each other up and there are several 3 or 4 loss teams.

The reality is that for most conferences there will be up.and down years.

The problem with college sports is systemic due to a lack of institutional oversight. The NCAA is weak and has no control. Conference presidents are calling the shots

It's time for Congress to institute some sort of control. No one in California wants to see Indiana vs Oklahoma or Alabama in the Rose Bowl. The super conferences have ruined tradition, created unfairness via the NIL that has marginalized the competitivnes of college sports.

If they continue to allow universities and conferences to go down their own road, very soon there will no no difference between professional and academic sports.

The beneficiaries are the big conferences with the group of 5 fighting over scraps. The student athletes may be getting paid, the institution of college athletics as a whole is not benefitting at all

 

[CL82]

It's time for Congress to institute some sort of control.

This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.

 

[freescooter]

One thing that has actually happeneddin college football recently is that several bottom dwellers have suddenly become competitive. Indiana is exhibit A of course, but Vanderbilt is now competing with big dogs in the SEC. So is Ol’ Miss. LSU , Penn State, Duke and Virginia are at the top of the ACC while Clemson is a middle of the pack team and FSU is at the bottom. One thing I think happened is that teams can’t stockpile players anymore. Nobody is willing to sit behind a guy for 3 years before seeing the field. And that hurts blue bloods in 2 ways. 1. Other “lesser” opponents get better talented players now, and 2. The former top programs can’t deal with injuries the same way. If your all conference left guard gets hurt you now need to bring in a less talented or less experienced guy rather than a redshirt Sophomore you planned to save until next year.

 

[NHUConnfan]

This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.

Oh the funny thing is that the SCORE Act (which seems to be dead) would have been invalidated in the courts because the courts have been pretty consistent about blowing up illegal wage-fixing schemes which is exactly where we are these days with the NCAA. The government isn't gonna get us out of this hole.

 

[CL82]

Oh the funny thing is that the SCORE Act (which seems to be dead) would have been invalidated in the courts because the courts have been pretty consistent about blowing up illegal wage-fixing schemes which is exactly where we are these days with the NCAA. The government isn't gonna get us out of this hole.

I'm inclined to agree. The problem is that I don't see any way out of this, perhaps short of a CBA which comes with its own issues. I think had the NCAA been proactive early on, there was potential for a reasonable compromise that maintained some of the more attractive elements of college athletics.At this point, I think that ship has sailed.

 

[B1GEast]

This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.

I get that 100 percent, but some type of oversight, be it independent or congressional, doesn't matter to me, but this is out of control and needs to be realigned with the goal of the student athlete and higher education