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Need to get into P4 conference

Drfla said:
If the CFP selections tell us anything, it tells us that it’s run by the P4. What happened in the CFP, with a 3 loss Alabama, that got dominated yesterday and barely beat a 5-7 team in their previous game, is a foreshadowing of college basketball in the near future. The big boys will run everything and the Big East, like independent ND, in football, will get only what the big boys are forced to give them
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No one seems to remember Alabama's loss to FSU, either.
 
The B1G has suggested a 24 team playoff with the P4 each getting 4 automatic bids, the G6 getting 2 and 6 at large bids. I think there is a good chance that this becomes the new model for 2027.

In this case, UConn has to join a G6 conference. It’s a very plausible path to the CFP.
 
NHUConnfan said:
It's been a decade long project. Do I need to start pulling the sources from 2016 about how they were going to start focusing on basketball after they got embarrassed?

The future of college athletics is the B1G and SEC and anyone else will be lucky to be relevant. This is a long game but it's a game they're winning.
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Of course they're focusing on football and basketball but this idea that UConn is going to go away is incredibly stupid.
 
jostar1 said:
Now you are just ranting. How was Syracuse a leech in the Big East? Even BC was decent. UCF and Cincinnati were successful in the AAC. UConn was the one who stunk.

By the way, it's OK to rant. Get it out. We are all frustrated with what happened to UConn in realignment.
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UConn fb was on the rise. The problem is/was, the schools chosen had tradition on their side. UConn FB was considered a neophyte and unworthy of an invite.

The way in which schools are valued has changed drastically as the media rights deals have changed.
 
Drfla said:
At the moment it has more to do with basketball than football. If you think the SEC and Big10 are going to only be happy with dominating football, I think you are wrong. basketball is next.
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I don't know if basketball is next, but it clearly is the low hanging fruit which is ripe for the picking. Right now it looks like the plan is to slowly pressure the NCAA to make concessions which make the P2's continue association with it palatable to them. "Option B" is better for us where they blow the existing system up and create something new. I think our basketball dominance would make us at least somewhat hard to leave on the outside, looking in, especially if our admission was coupled with cutting loose existing deadweight.
 
With all the expansion mistakes of universities not adding value by inviting the wrong universities, creating a payout tiered structure will fix some of this.

People think that having a strong conference from top to bottom in football is the answer, but for the SEC it could lead to cannibalism where teams just beat each other up and there are several 3 or 4 loss teams.

The reality is that for most conferences there will be up.and down years.

The problem with college sports is systemic due to a lack of institutional oversight. The NCAA is weak and has no control. Conference presidents are calling the shots

It's time for Congress to institute some sort of control. No one in California wants to see Indiana vs Oklahoma or Alabama in the Rose Bowl. The super conferences have ruined tradition, created unfairness via the NIL that has marginalized the competitivnes of college sports.

If they continue to allow universities and conferences to go down their own road, very soon there will no no difference between professional and academic sports.

The beneficiaries are the big conferences with the group of 5 fighting over scraps. The student athletes may be getting paid, the institution of college athletics as a whole is not benefitting at all
 
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One thing that has actually happeneddin college football recently is that several bottom dwellers have suddenly become competitive. Indiana is exhibit A of course, but Vanderbilt is now competing with big dogs in the SEC. So is Ol’ Miss. LSU , Penn State, Duke and Virginia are at the top of the ACC while Clemson is a middle of the pack team and FSU is at the bottom. One thing I think happened is that teams can’t stockpile players anymore. Nobody is willing to sit behind a guy for 3 years before seeing the field. And that hurts blue bloods in 2 ways. 1. Other “lesser” opponents get better talented players now, and 2. The former top programs can’t deal with injuries the same way. If your all conference left guard gets hurt you now need to bring in a less talented or less experienced guy rather than a redshirt Sophomore you planned to save until next year.
 
CL82 said:
This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.
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Oh the funny thing is that the SCORE Act (which seems to be dead) would have been invalidated in the courts because the courts have been pretty consistent about blowing up illegal wage-fixing schemes which is exactly where we are these days with the NCAA. The government isn't gonna get us out of this hole.
 
NHUConnfan said:
Oh the funny thing is that the SCORE Act (which seems to be dead) would have been invalidated in the courts because the courts have been pretty consistent about blowing up illegal wage-fixing schemes which is exactly where we are these days with the NCAA. The government isn't gonna get us out of this hole.
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I'm inclined to agree. The problem is that I don't see any way out of this, perhaps short of a CBA which comes with its own issues. I think had the NCAA been proactive early on, there was potential for a reasonable compromise that maintained some of the more attractive elements of college athletics.At this point, I think that ship has sailed.
 
CL82 said:
This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.
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I get that 100 percent, but some type of oversight, be it independent or congressional, doesn't matter to me, but this is out of control and needs to be realigned with the goal of the student athlete and higher education
 
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CL82 said:
This Ronald Reagan quote comes to mind:
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Never underestimate the ability of the Congress to screw things up.
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But can they screw up things worse than the NCAA and the P2?
 
Enrique said:
But can they screw up things worse than the NCAA and the P2?
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Yes I Agree GIF by AHS
 
Enrique said:
But can they screw up things worse than the NCAA and the P2?
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Yes. And tax you for them screwing it up and the giant bureaucracy created to screw it up even worse. Its the American way!
 
It all goes back to conference, or lack thereof in football. If we’re truly committed to football, we have to figure it out. Right now we’re a basketball school that’s attempting to play football, but we’re too nervous to leave the Big East. Dave Benedict has proven he’s the real deal. We need to turn him loose and get in the right conference.

Football (in a conference) is the biggest revenue driver at most schools. Can we do it? Yes we can, we’re Husky Nation!!
 
CLAS92 said:
It all goes back to conference, or lack thereof in football. If we’re truly committed to football, we have to figure it out. Right now we’re a basketball school that’s attempting to play football, but we’re too nervous to leave the Big East. Dave Benedict has proven he’s the real deal. We need to turn him loose and get in the right conference.

Football (in a conference) is the biggest revenue driver at most schools. Can we do it? Yes we can, we’re Husky Nation!!
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You're new here so it seems that you don't understand the dynamics of conference realignment. UConn is not too nervous to leave the Big East. We need to get an invitation from another conference in order to join. If UConn were to get an invitation from a P4 Conference, we would leave the Big East in a heartbeat!
 
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CLAS92 said:
It all goes back to conference, or lack thereof in football. If we’re truly committed to football, we have to figure it out. Right now we’re a basketball school that’s attempting to play football, but we’re too nervous to leave the Big East. Dave Benedict has proven he’s the real deal. We need to turn him loose and get in the right conference.

Football (in a conference) is the biggest revenue driver at most schools. Can we do it? Yes we can, we’re Husky Nation!!
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UConn is too nervous to leave the Big East but they've been fighting like absolute hell to get into a P4 every single massive wave of realignment for the last decade and a half?
 
This is a really interesting video about the Bills' new stadium in Buffalo. Not that UConn is getting a new stadium any time soon but seeing the engineering that goes into a new state of the art $2billion stadium is cool

 
CLAS92 said:
It all goes back to conference, or lack thereof in football. If we’re truly committed to football, we have to figure it out. Right now we’re a basketball school that’s attempting to play football, but we’re too nervous to leave the Big East. Dave Benedict has proven he’s the real deal. We need to turn him loose and get in the right conference.

Football (in a conference) is the biggest revenue driver at most schools. Can we do it? Yes we can, we’re Husky Nation!!
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The American conference is our best chance at this point. It puts us in a position to get the G5 autobid into the CFP. No reason Husky Nation couldn’t dominate the G5. The key is getting into the CFP. Basketball will be fine in the American
 
NE Football said:
The American conference is our best chance at this point. It puts us in a position to get the G5 autobid into the CFP. No reason Husky Nation couldn’t dominate the G5. The key is getting into the CFP. Basketball will be fine in the American
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How about if BC joins the American and UConn takes their place in the ACC. Maybe I shouldn't assume the American would want BC...
 
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Drfla said:
If the CFP selections tell us anything, it tells us that it’s run by the P4. What happened in the CFP, with a 3 loss Alabama, that got dominated yesterday and barely beat a 5-7 team in their previous game, is a foreshadowing of college basketball in the near future. The big boys will run everything and the Big East, like independent ND, in football, will get only what the big boys are forced to give them
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I need a 10,000 acre ranch in Montana.
 
NE Football said:
The American conference is our best chance at this point. It puts us in a position to get the G5 autobid into the CFP. No reason Husky Nation couldn’t dominate the G5. The key is getting into the CFP. Basketball will be fine in the American
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No, only if it’s FB only like Army & Navy have. And Im guessing the only way Uconn gets that invite is if Castle consistently positions them among the top few G5 programs. And that still might not be enough because I’m not sure Memphis, Tulane & USF would want us in.

If it’s not FB only, it’s got to be P4.
 
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