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ND awful again, UCF is a better team

Agree with @minidarren that UCF was behind UGA and OSU, but yes compare their results against Pitt.

Pitt @ ND L 14-19
Pitt @ UCF 14-45

College football has become a joke because nobody plays anybody out of conference anymore. It’s entirely possible that UGA is the second best team, I suspect that they are.
 
So much for the ND "mystique", yet still they will be contiually voted as a top team, when, at best, they middling so called powerhouse. Clemson set everyone straight, with their pasting of the Irish. The power of college football resides in the SOUTH. Any more questions.
 
College football's HoF WAS moved from South Bend to Atlanta, after all.
 
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Before he went to Florida, Urban Meyer said he wanted to go to ND but they had to lower their admission standards for him to win there. They wouldn't, and he went on to win championships at places that did have lower standards.

This week I saw that ND football was one of a few schools that had a 100 percent graduation rate.

I give them credit for not selling their soul for football...but it means they won't have the athletes to compete with the Clemsons and Alabamas of the sport.
 
Palatine said:
Notre Dame has lost eight (8) straight major bowl games.
Notre Dame’s lost 8 straight big bowls. Let’s rank them
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Their bowl record is going to destroy their "mystique".

Off to the ACC they'll go. Have gone the way of Pitt and Cuse. Unfortunately, Syracuse will still have an economy.

There's no way Notre Dame will be able to maintain independence with a losing bowl record. The Irish are being wrestled into a conference.
 
There is absolutely zero question in my mind that UCF, with their backup QB, would have put up a FAR more competitive fight against Clemson than Notre Dame did. Notre Dame was the least deserving Playoff participant to date, and that's saying something considering how many blowouts we've had shoved down our throats in this new scam system. Playing a mediocre ACC-based schedule and playing against traditional big name programs in their extreme down years is not impressive to anyone...except Committee members and folks who bow down to Old Money Club propaganda. Ohio State, Georgia and, yes, UCF were all much more deserving to play Clemson than smoke-and-mirrors Irish. But they'll surely get another Playoff chance in 5 years when the Committee has decided it can't bear the thought of the beloved Irish being left out any longer...and they'll get smoked again.
 
UCF is not going to get one of the four bids no matter how good they are. The Cartel, aka P5, want no part of any G5 team in their playoffs. Since we live near Orlando, I can assure everyone that if UCF wins its bowl game they will lay claim again to being the national champion.

Georgia, despite 2 losses, is a far better team than ND. Next would be tOSU though I think they are notch below Georgia.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Before he went to Florida, Urban Meyer said he wanted to go to ND but they had to lower their admission standards for him to win there. They wouldn't, and he went on to win championships at places that did have lower standards.

This week I saw that ND football was one of a few schools that had a 100 percent graduation rate.

I give them credit for not selling their soul for football...but it means they won't have the athletes to compete with the Clemsons and Alabamas of the sport.
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I'm a little fuzzy on the details but listening to a defensive player from Oklahoma interviewed on ESPN radio this week I couldn't tell if he was actually speaking English.
 
UCF proved this year no G5 school is ever getting in after back to back unbeaten seasons. Unless they expand and guarantee a spot to the top G5 school it ain't happening.
 
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My laugh out loud moment of the day was when the pregame talking head, whom I do not have a name for carried on. (Not his exact words) "It is preposterous / absurd to think Notre Dame is a 12 point underdog".
Maybe he meant it should have been higher and I missed it. ;)
 
Butch said:
Their bowl record is going to destroy their "mystique".

Off to the ACC they'll go. Have gone the way of Pitt and Cuse. Unfortunately, Syracuse will still have an economy.

There's no way Notre Dame will be able to maintain independence with a losing bowl record. The Irish are being wrestled into a conference.
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What kind of mystique do they deserve when UConn owns a winning record against them.
 
The system is in Flatline mode

There won’t be significant wide interest until you do have the underdogs winning - and that starts opening when the field is 8.

A Boise winning against a major name a decade ago is the sterling example of the possibility set.
 
huskeynut said:
UCF is not going to get one of the four bids no matter how good they are. The Cartel, aka P5, want no part of any G5 team in their playoffs. Since we live near Orlando, I can assure everyone that if UCF wins its bowl game they will lay claim again to being the national champion.

Georgia, despite 2 losses, is a far better team than ND. Next would be tOSU though I think they are notch below Georgia.
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Rightfully so. Alabama or Clemson can also claim a share.
 
Just a quick perspective in favor of UCF being in the playoffs with a chance for the NC. In MLB, prior to 1947, how many black players were selected as MVP? How many since then?
 
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Bezzz said:
I'm a little fuzzy on the details but listening to a defensive player from Oklahoma interviewed on ESPN radio this week I couldn't tell if he was actually speaking English.
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Some of these student-athletes can barely spell their name, let alone put together coherent sentences. Remember Cardale Jones of Ohio State a few years ago said "we ain't come here to play school," and I believe him. CFB and MCBB should be spun off into their own little leagues so we can end this charade that they are students when they are really just playing in the minor leagues for the NFL and NBA.
 
If you ever watch Last Chance U on Netflix, it gives you a perspective on what it's like recruiting kids today. You root for these kids but they are tough to motivate. Of course these are kids who have had problems at other schools, but the good players do end up back in FBS. And none are going to ND.

That's the part that always shocks me with coaches who are in their 60s and 70s and still want to coach. Recruiting is not easy.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Some of these student-athletes can barely spell their name, let alone put together coherent sentences. Remember Cardale Jones of Ohio State a few years ago said "we ain't come here to play school," and I believe him. CFB and MCBB should be spun off into their own little leagues so we can end this charade that they are students when they are really just playing in the minor leagues for the NFL and NBA.
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As if pro leagues want their free farm systems to go away.
 
4 issues of the entire post-season for CFB

P5 Cartel shutting out non-P5 from 4 team playoff.
Very few P5 vs G6 Bowl matchup.
The best players on many teams just skipping Bowl Games (or getting suspended for whatever).
ND Mistique - it's real but not the biggest issue by far.

Maybe an 8 or 16 team playoff rotating among Bowls would solve much of this. If I'm a Coach Mr. Superstar can buy his own ticket to the game if he decides not to play. Consider yourself quit.
 
Jimdish255 said:
If I'm a Coach Mr. Superstar can buy his own ticket to the game if he decides not to play. Consider yourself quit.
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What good reason would a highly touted prospect have to play in a meaningless exhibition game?

Easy for the head coach to say play when they have millions in the bank, as opposed to the kid that helped make those millions and has $0 in their bank account to show for it.
 
Palatine said:
Put Norte Dame in the layoff and they prove they don't belong. But they still get the money and they have made a bundle when they should have gotten none.

UCF certainly would have shown better even with a back up QB,
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Agree.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Agree with @minidarren that UCF was behind UGA and OSU, but yes compare their results against Pitt.

Pitt @ ND L 14-19
Pitt @ UCF 14-45

College football has become a joke because nobody plays anybody out of conference anymore. It’s entirely possible that UGA is the second best team, I suspect that they are.
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I think Clemson with Dexter Lawrence playing and Trevor Lawrence coming into his own now, is better than either Georgia or Alabama. I would rank them 1) Clemson 2) Bama 3) Georgia 4) Oklahoma or Ohio State
 
Palatine said:
Put Norte Dame in the layoff and they prove they don't belong. But they still get the money and they have made a bundle when they should have gotten none.

UCF certainly would have shown better even with a back up QB,
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Let's wait for UCF to beat LSU. Which i hope they do.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I think Clemson with Dexter Lawrence playing and Trevor Lawrence coming into his own now, is better than either Georgia or Alabama. I would rank them 1) Clemson 2) Bama 3) Georgia 4) Oklahoma or Ohio State
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They may be. We will find out. I hope they win. It's just impossible to know.
 
Ewekon said:
Let's wait for UCF to beat LSU. Which i hope they do.
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Mixed emotions. This will possibly be the only game I watch (The Orange and Cotton were on my TV, but I wasn't really watching.).

I want UCF to win for the sake of the AAC.

On the other hand, the Big 12 just might extend them an invitation as they receive the trophy. For better or worse, UCF gives the AAC at least a modicum of credibility.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
What good reason would a highly touted prospect have to play in a meaningless exhibition game?

Easy for the head coach to say play when they have millions in the bank, as opposed to the kid that helped make those millions and has $0 in their bank account to show for it.
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The reasons would be every other player on the team and the fans that are traveling to support the team.
The other issue of money isn't entirely separate, but it is distinct in that it can be addressed if they wanted to. And the fact is that while the kid may have $0 to show for it, those Coaches, teammates, fans and the University played a major part in his being in a good position. This has begun bleeding into regular season games as well and it's going to cause more problems down the road. Maybe should be addressed by the conferences vs the individual teams, but if they choose to be spectators let them sit in the stands. It's a terrible message to send.
 
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