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CompSci87 said:
I hope she can recruit some players who can shoot and Arizona can try to win games with offense instead of just making it ugly with defense.
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Well, I suppose it's all relative. Compared to the UCF team I just watched, Arizona is a finesse team.
 
CompSci87 said:
I hope she can recruit some players who can shoot and Arizona can try to win games with offense instead of just making it ugly with defense.
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Taylor Chavez was a career 41% 3pt shooter before transferring to Arizona.
 
Iluvacc2 said:
Where’s Triad?


Interested Kim Kardashian GIF
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I'm more upset with Iowa losing than with Arizona losing. Gonna be lots of fun seeing all the sad tarheel fans leaving the coliseum on Friday night.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I watched North Carolina several times this year. I thought they had plenty of potential. Could probably use more size in the post, but they have a nice collection of players.
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Teonni Key (Tamari's younger sister) tore her ACL prior to the season starting. She's a lot more agile than her sister too I believe. There was a lot of buzz about her before her injury.
 
triaddukefan said:
I'm more upset with Iowa losing than with Arizona losing. Gonna be lots of fun seeing all the sad tarheel fans leaving the coliseum on Friday night.
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I hope that's true! It will be a great tournament - that's for sure (as long as SC is winning). If our defense is as dialed in as it was against Miami I think we will be ok. We will have the height advantage for sure in this one but for us to get much further in this tournament we need some offense.
 
CompSci87 said:
I hope she can recruit some players who can shoot and Arizona can try to win games with offense instead of just making it ugly with defense.
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I guess we saw what a difference not having a player like Ari McDonald makes . . .
 
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North Carolina seemed to be NET Top 10 most of the season, but the committee never included them in the Top 16 in any of their 3 reveals, even after they'd beaten a top seed like Louisville. I guess some of their other numbers didn't impress the committee.

Conversely, the committee just seemed to love Oklahoma even though they were never ranked in NET Top 20, IIRC. Charlie Creme would point out that OU had several NET Top 25 wins (or something to that effect).

So, seems like UNC and OU were some of the more confusing non-hosts / hosts as it turned out.

Arizona seemed to do everything in its power down the stretch to have the committee push them out of hosting; but, the committee kept them in (probably because of their early season win over Louisville).
 
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Last night was a good evening for games. UT did what they had to do and will move on. I never actually thought UConn was going to lose but UCF made it a tight game and while I'm not a fan of their "style", it was still a close and competitive one that makes this time of year special.
 
shiverz45 said:
Notre Dame is so hot and cold but very talented.
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Even with some puzzling losses to Duke, Boston College, and Florida State, ND had that look of a Sweet 16 team all season long. Creme said it awhile back after the NCST win - the Irish’s ceiling is pretty high; they’re just inconsistent in their performance.
 
southie said:
North Carolina seemed to be NET Top 10 most of the season, but the committee never included them in the Top 16 in any of their 3 reveals, even after they'd beaten a top seed like Louisville. I guess some of their other numbers didn't impress the committee.

Conversely, the committee just seemed to love Oklahoma even though they were never ranked in NET Top 20, IIRC. Charlie Creme would point out that OU had several NET Top 25 wins (or something to that effect).

So, seems like UNC and OU were some of the more confusing non-hosts / host as it turned out.

Arizona seemed to do everything in its power down the stretch to have the committee push them out of hosting; but, the committee kept them in (probably because of their early season win over Louisville).
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An exercise in retrospective sophistry.

The NET also had BYU in the top 10. Funny how I don't see you arguing in retrospect that the committee should've made them a top 16 seed.
 
GoChips20 said:
Even with some puzzling losses to Duke, Boston College, and Florida State, ND had that look of a Sweet 16 team all season long. Creme said it awhile back after the NCST win - the Irish’s ceiling is pretty high; they’re just inconsistent in their performance.
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No doubt, that game last night was the best, and most complete, performance by the Fighting Irish all season. I hope they got it out of their system before Saturday!

It should be a good game. In the only regular-season meeting between the teams, neither team shot very well; the game was on a Tuesday, both teams had played Sunday...with NC State having to travel to South Bend. Early foul trouble by Cunane allowed Dodson to have her way in the post, and the Wolfpack Women didn't help their cause by being careless with the ball. Still, we only lost by 3 and had two shots to tie the game in the waning seconds.
 
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Plebe said:
An exercise in retrospective sophistry.

The NET also had BYU in the top 10. Funny how I don't see you arguing in retrospect that the committee should've made them a top 16 seed.
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I didn't realize it was my responsibility to "argue" on behalf of every team. Last time I checked, this was a message board designed to share opinions.
 
southie said:
I didn't realize it was my responsibility to "argue" on behalf of every team. Last time I checked, this was a message board designed to share opinions.
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Right, you share yours and I'm sharing mine. That's how this works.

The point is that no one would rationally argue that BYU was under-seeded after they lost in the first round to a lower seed. It's easy to play the post-upset game of "The seedings were all wrong!" The NET proves nothing in either direction.
 
Plebe said:
Right, you share yours and I'm sharing mine. That's how this works.

The point is that no one would rationally argue that BYU was under-seeded after they lost in the first round to a lower seed. It's easy to play the post-upset game of "The seedings were all wrong!" The NET proves nothing in either direction.
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And, I've never mentioned BYU as I don't follow their program to have an opinion one way or another. So, I have nothing to say about them. You brought up BYU, so I'll let you "argue" with yourself about them.
 
Plebe said:
If not for the home court thing, the SEC women would be right there with the men. LSU definitely would've lost on a neutral court, Tennessee probably would have, and with SC who knows.

Georgia was the only SEC women's team to win a neutral-court game, and then they were destroyed by an Iowa State team that barely beat a 14 seed two days earlier.
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I think we kind of do know with SC, but hey anything is possible.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
I think we kind of do know with SC, but hey anything is possible.
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So a team that lost to Missouri and Kentucky in the same season would be incapable of losing to Miami? It's not like a lightning strike. Happened twice.
 
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bballnut90 said:
Taylor Chavez was a career 41% 3pt shooter before transferring to Arizona.
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34% this year, which isn't terrible, but overall her production was almost non-existent. She had a disappointing Jr. year at Oregon, but this year was way worse. Although looking at her stats, she had a low number of attempts behind the arc, her % is skewed by a recent 5-7 performance against USC. She only made 15 3's all year, 1/3 of them were in 1 game.

Conner and Pueyo are decent 3 point shooters. Surprisingly Sam Thomas led them in both made 3s and %.
 
nwhoopfan said:
34% this year, which isn't terrible, but overall her production was almost non-existent. She had a disappointing Jr. year at Oregon, but this year was way worse. Although looking at her stats, she had a low number of attempts behind the arc, her % is skewed by a recent 5-7 performance against USC. She only made 15 3's all year, 1/3 of them were in 1 game.

Conner and Pueyo are decent 3 point shooters. Surprisingly Sam Thomas led them in both made 3s and %.
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Point being that Arizona has good shooters, it's more the system that's making them shoot such a low percentage. Oregon's ball movement was brilliant in 2020 when Chavez shot almost 50%, then dropped significantly once their offense disappeared in the post-Sabrina year
 
Here's something interesting: Arizona's total made 3's and 3 point shooting % were nearly identical the last 2 seasons. They obviously missed McDonald, but it had no noticeable impact on their 3 point shooting.
 
RE: Chavez, I think you would have to conclude her 3 point shooting her soph year was an anomaly. She's played 4 seasons, now, her % by year have been .365, .474, .333, .341.
 
nwhoopfan said:
So...Coach McGuff is often criticized for not being much of a coach. But this year he took a team without a whole lot in the way of expectations, won a share of the Big 10 regular season championship, and got to the Sweet 16. Not bad.
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Well, He IS getting $1.1 Million plus per year....
 
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Ok, here it is-THE updated attendance for the first 2 Rounds of the NCAAT. UConn made a blistering come back with 10,167 fans last night finishing 3rd in Attendance for the second round (after a paisley 11th after the first round). UConn finishes 7th of 16 host sites. The average session attendance for all 32 sessions was 6,778.
School2nd Rd1st RdTotal
1Iowa14,38214,38228,764
2Louisville10,4148,40718,821
3South Car9,8178,47818,295
4Arizona8,3339,57317,906
5LSU8,1357,89016,025
6Indiana9,6276,38916,016
7UConn10,1675,07315,240
8Michigan5,5816,47112,052
9Iowa St6,2835,54611,829
10Tennessee5,4845,44810,932
11NC State4,8085,48310,291
12Maryland4,5754,7769,351
13Texas4,9603,8228,782
14Stanford4,1893,6487,837
15Baylor3,6843,8557,539
16Oklahoma3,2583,9527,210
7,1066,4506,778
 
LETTERL said:
Do you still think the ACC was over-rated?
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Tell ya what, if Louisville curb-stomps Tennessee as emphatically as they did Notre Dame (twice), I'll admit that the ACC might not be as overrated as once thought.

But ... the deal is off if NC State loses to Notre Dame.

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So in my view, You have to credit some schools for really supporting their teams-Arizona, LSU, Indiana and heck even Michigan!

Iowa, Iowa State, Louisville, UConn and SC have always had support (last 5-7 years) which in Iowa's case, went through the roof this past weekend and in SC's situation was a tad disappointing but still strong when compared to others.

While Baylor and Tennessee have consistently been good teams, their attendance is disappointing and in the Lady Vols case very concerning. This is a team that used to average 14,000 per game.

NC State and Maryland had good numbers but I was hoping for more given their teams.

Texas and Oklahoma have to figure this situation out in a hurry as they make the jump to the SEC and may be vying for the both 25 percentile in attendance with those numbers.

Last on this list is Stanford. They have never really drawn well in all these years and I don't get it. Sure the weather is kind of nice even during the winter but still, this is a phenomenal program that is underappreciated. They can't get boosters to buy season packages and give them to Youth sport groups? Jeesh...
 
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