NCAA to consider change to graduate transfer rules... | Page 2 | The Boneyard

NCAA to consider change to graduate transfer rules...

Status
Not open for further replies.
I disagree with this rule. Once you graduate I think you ought to just move on. If you want to play at the place you are, that's fine. The number of d1 programs without some bogus grad program (MBA anyone?) if you don't want to enroll in a real one, can probably be counted on 1 hand. But for consistency., please note that I am equally opposed to the 1 and done. More opposed actually. That makes a complete mockery of the college part of college basketball. At least the grad rule has the thin veil of "rewarding" a player who has actually graduated. What I don't like is the mercenary/NBA gm look it gives. But it does let programs like UConn get there own version of the 1 and done burger boys.
 
In a world full of organizations such as the UN, Congress, and every major media organization, the NCA fahking A really takes the cake. They set a new standard for how to be colossally greedy, lying, two-faced, pieces of whose mission statement and actual actions couldn't possibly be any more out of sync. They make the fahking muslim brotherhood even a tad more likeable because at least they're fahking honest about their intent to destroy people's lives.
 
fleudslipcon said:
So the NCAA wants to make sure education comes first. No problem. The interviewer gets this guys opinion. LOL. Can't wait till they start penalizing programs in which students don't complete four years of education! ;)
From the article:
So does Kentucky's John Calipari.

"You need two years in grad school anyway, so it makes sense," Calipari said.

Eliminating waivers and making grad students sit out a year would "cut this thing by two-thirds," he added.


How this guy has the testiculos to speak on this is amazing. How reporters don't question him about the hypocrisy is equally amazing.
Expand ...

cut this thing by 2/3

Squid the scum showing where his head and his heart are

he doesn't care about kids actually getting a degree, and he's obviously opposed to letting those same kids pursue an advanced degree. But he sure does promote using kids for a year when they don't take one single serious course.

the man's a fraud, pure scum, a documented cheater and a low life worm that runs out of town on the midnight train
 
fleudslipcon said:
So the NCAA wants to make sure education comes first. No problem. The interviewer gets this guys opinion. LOL. Can't wait till they start penalizing programs in which students don't complete four years of education! ;)
From the article:
So does Kentucky's John Calipari.

"You need two years in grad school anyway, so it makes sense," Calipari said.

Eliminating waivers and making grad students sit out a year would "cut this thing by two-thirds," he added.


How this guy has the testiculos to speak on this is amazing. How reporters don't question him about the hypocrisy is equally amazing.
Expand ...

2 years in grad school? Huh?
 
.-.
The thing about graduate transfers is this is how grad school works. As I understand it most kids get their graduate degree at a different school than their undergrad. What interest would an instituition governing "student athletes" have in changing that dynamic. Coach K and Cal are really off the deep end here. The fact that they aren't getting skewered about this just shows how far the system is tilted in their favor.
 
The schools complaining the loudest have the one and done's. They know that the one thing that can neutralize young outstanding talent is experience and poise, which enables a team like Wichita State to have a legitimate shot at the final four. If the NCAA passed legislation requiring freshmen to stay 2 years or more you wouldn't hear a peep from these guys. In most cases, the eligibility of an athlete is affected by a coach's decision or an injury acquired while "on the job". This is really about manipulating the competitive landscape at the expense of the "scholar" athlete.
 
where can I go to voice my complaints about this issue? - ie/send a strongly worded email letting someone know how ridiculous this is.

I am hating Calipari more and more with every statement he makes. Guy needs to go to the NBA and leave CBB alone.
 
huskyharry said:
I think both Squid and Coach K could care less about the impact on the schools from which the kids transfer. They don't want competitive programs to be able to re-load quickly and narrow their inherent recruiting advantage out of high school. Both are scum
Expand ...
Neither were too pleased about Miller.
 
willie99 said:
cut this thing by 2/3 Squid the scum showing where his head and his heart are he doesn't care about kids actually getting a degree, and he's obviously opposed to letting those same kids pursue an advanced degree. But he sure does promote using kids for a year when they don't take one single serious course. the man's a fraud, pure scum, a documented cheater and a low life worm that runs out of town on the midnight train
Expand ...

Yeah - I mean what is "this thing" that needs tending to? What's the problem?

I hate using pro analogies, but to me, getting the degree is like the contract running out and becoming a free agent. The NCAA has one stupid restriction on the rule already - you have to enroll in a graduate program that your original school doesn't offer. That's ridiculous. If you have the opportunity to go to a better MBA program, or one in a geographical location you would rather be, you should be able to take it. You shouldn't be locked into the same grad school. No other students are.

There are a fair number of players this effects at the middle to bottom of DI - average players who are not thinking about the pros. Harder to get a coach to tie up a scholarship for two years, but if they have a void for a year, you can play a fifth year - and then maybe get a ga position at the school, and there are your two years (if it takes two). Why should those kids get punished because Lasan Kromah got a big rebound and hit two foul shots?
 
The Squid and now the new coach K speaking about this is laughable. One and done U's worried about schools like LVille and UConn betting some experienced players every once in a while? please:rolleyes:
 
.-.
The worst part of this news is having to hear from the morons who actually believe the NCAA is out to get UConn and that is why they are changing the rule.
 
Jerry1714 said:
The worst part of this news is having to hear from the morons who actually believe the NCAA is out to get UConn and that is why they are changing the rule.
Expand ...

Not morons just thinking a lot about their program. If anyone is bothering those 2 guys its Pitino with his 2 grads.

But again, the whining is hilarious
 
So it is somehow more noble to cater to a one and done than it is to a kid who has been a good student/athlete for 4 years? God forbid we allow student/athletes to be a scourge against college athletics.
 
Think about it. A non-athlete could pursue a degree elsewhere but an athlete can't? I thought we abolished indentured servitude in this country.
 
T
CL82 said:
...to require sitting out year. LINK

In related news they started a new ad campaign.

NCAA - Making things harder on athletes one dumb ass rule at a time.
Expand ...

Apparently Coach Cal has no problem with JUCO transfers being immediately eligible though.

Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello


JUCO wing Mychal Mulder has announced his commitment to Kentucky. Averaged 15.7 points and shot 46.3% from 3 this past season.

upload_2015-4-28_16-2-45.gif 21m

If someone can explain to me what the difference is that would be great.
 
.-.
Coach K is becoming more and more despicable every day he takes a breath.

In the old days he loved to tout his "student athletes" because they were Duke. Now he's freely opening the gates to kids who couldn't be further from being actual student athletes. Not to mention he uses his US coaching job as a way to funnel kids into his program.

Coach K might be sleazier than the hotels sitting on the Berlin Turnpike. Funny what the desperation of finality does to one's ethics.
 
I guess anything to appease coach K and the squid.

Just one more stupid thing the NCAA is doing
 
Big trouble when you agree with Freescooter on anything but I think 4 years on scholarship is enough. Those who think otherwise make good points but something just doesn't feel right about it.
 
Jerry1714 said:
The worst part of this news is having to hear from the morons who actually believe the NCAA is out to get UConn and that is why they are changing the rule.
Expand ...

I think this has something to do with Cal being pissed at UConn. Not the NCAA.

On the other hand, it was pretty clear to me that both Herbst and Manuel believed the NCAA was out to get UConn unfairly over APR. So why would anyone call them morons? I'm glad Napier embarrassed Emmert in multiple ways.
 
Danzz said:
Big trouble when you agree with Freescooter on anything but I think 4 years on scholarship is enough. Those who think otherwise make good points but something just doesn't feel right about it.
Expand ...

The issue shouldn't be 4 years vs. 5 years.

After all, we have certain transfers, medical cases, and redshirts that play for 5 years. In football as well (i.e. Russell Wilson). so 4 vs. 5 is irrelevant.

The question is switching schools.

But why would you prevent a graduate from switching schools (if he still hasn't used up his eligibility) when any kid who is not a graduate can transfer?

A kid can play for 3 years, 4 of them on scholarship, and he can elect not to graduate, but instead to transfer.
 
.-.
If you're against paying kids, you can't reasonably be against free transfers. If they're not employees, how can you place work restrictions on them? What this really comes down to is people who think that these kids exist to entertain them.
 
CallMeBruce said:
If you're against paying kids, you can't reasonably be against free transfers. If they're not employees, how can you place work restrictions on them? What this really comes down to is people who think that these kids exist to entertain them.
Expand ...

The reason you do it is for competitive balance. If a kid like, say, Daniel Hamilton, looks around and realizes he has a better chance to make the F4 at a school loaded for next year but perhaps in need of a SF-PF, it may be an easy decision to just transfer. But if you delay it by a year, no one knows what the future holds at any school.

If you turned college ball into European soccer with constant transfers to the top teams, you might eat into the interest.

In a Euro soccer, when a top team has no hope for the Champions League or even Europa, it starts losing interest from potential transfers.

For soccer fans, keep an eye on Liverpool over the summer. They are going to have difficulty attracting players.

It would be the same dynamic in college. Players leaving schools for better fits and better exposure elsewhere.
 
upstater said:
The reason you do it is for competitive balance. If a kid like, say, Daniel Hamilton, looks around and realizes he has a better chance to make the F4 at a school loaded for next year but perhaps in need of a SF-PF, it may be an easy decision to just transfer. But if you delay it by a year, no one knows what the future holds at any school.
Expand ...

Tough. You don't own him.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Tough. You don't own him.
Expand ...

Huh? What in the world are you talking about? He can go play tiddlywinks for all I care. No one owns him. He can sign with a Chinese team. He can go pro. He can do whatever he wants.

But he doesn't get to make policy for the NCAA. He doesn't own the NCAA.
 
upstater said:
Huh? What in the world are you talking about? He can go play tiddlywinks for all I care. No one owns him. He can sign with a Chinese team. He can go pro. He can do whatever he wants.

But he doesn't get to make policy for the NCAA. He doesn't own the NCAA.
Expand ...

Every other student can switch schools whenever they want and be allowed to get involved in any sort of program at their new school immediately. If these kids are amateurs, then it's unreasonable to place work restrictions on them. Believe me, you'll understand when a kid sues to avoid having to sit out a year, particularly in a situation when his coach has left school.
 
"You need two years in grad school anyway, so it makes sense"

The only thing it makes sense for is limiting any competitive advantage another school would gain by obtaining a grad transfer. Just like the competitive advantage of offering up the one-and-done factory Cal has created (and Coach K seems to be opening up to.) You can't possibly argue one without arguing the other.
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,193
Messages
4,556,306
Members
10,442
Latest member
Virginiafan


Top Bottom