NCAA sniffing Syracuse Academics?

[Dove]

I hear that a CUSE baskeball player transferring to UNC would receive full credit for the course "Pottery - What does it mean to you?".

That's actually a great course. I took it at Middlesex Community College back in '03. The prof said on day 1 everyone gets an "A".

 

[CTBasketball]

Syracuse just smells like rotten fruits and vegetables. Its no good.

 

[Huskies4ever]

I know they were walking a tight rope with their APR scores and i will be shocked if they somehow avoid a post season ban.

You know the NCAA will just go back and change the rules. We'll probably be the only major program affected.

 

[Huskies4ever]

I hear that a CUSE baskeball player transferring to UNC would receive full credit for the course "Pottery - What does it mean to you?".

With the emphasis on pot.

 

[mauconnfan]

You're badly mistaken on this. I don't want to rehash everything, but the Post-Standard did not find enough believeable evidence to run the story when it first arose in 2003-04. That's why it never appeared, until ESPN thought they could make hay after missing out on the Penn State story. The University did an investigation, using a local law firm that is actually rather well respected nationally for their NCAA sports law practice. The police dept. gave it the quick flush; that much is true.

The local D.A., Fitzpatrick, came out on televsion and said that he felt the accusers were *not* credible, except for one - Zach Tomaselli - who wound up going to prison shortly afterwards for child molestation himself (takes one to know one?). The D.A. speaking out on ongoing cases (something he likes to do with alarming frequency) is a walking, talking ethics violation, a real gasbag who really should be removed from office.

Not sure you answered the rest of these which never become public due to the lack of media in the hicks:

Syracuse and Louisville both lost scholarships to the APR - never gets a heck of a lot of mention.
Neither did the Yahoo deal about 11 SU players failing drug tests and remaining eligible, MCW's non-arrested arrest
They live in a favorable media bubble.
Oddly, the one thing that they took a hit on - the Bernie Fine thing - was probably the only thing they shouldn't have.​

 

[caw]

Honestly, Cuse's APR is just going to go up.

Bumbles does a great job of having 3-4 walk-on student-"athletes" on the team that help when one of his players decides not to take a class/cheat.

It may be gaming the system, but who can complain, it's the way the system was created. UK does a similar thing.

 

[mauconnfan]

yah but not much was ever made about calhoun pushin players out that he didnt want around anymore - and you know the ones to - and who took the fall for the laptops??

Help us out here Esther.......our media misses nothing so if you are privy to some conspiracy please feel free to open the safe!!!!

 

[huskymedic]

PSBasketball 4:56pm via HootSuite
Syracuse basketball forward James Southerland did not travel with team to Louisville on Friday.

 

[BoatShow]

I remember them being a big list of programs with failing APR scores. Not sure how they have avoided a ban thus far.

 

[BoatShow]

Honestly, Cuse's APR is just going to go up.

Bumbles does a great job of having 3-4 walk-on student-"athletes" on the team that help when one of his players decides not to take a class/cheat.

It may be gaming the system, but who can complain, it's the way the system was created. UK does a similar thing.

I always thought they must just put a few tall kids with 4.0s on their roster to avoid stuff like this. No other way to survive having 5 kids with probably horrid grades leave early every year.

 

[upstater]

You're badly mistaken on this. I don't want to rehash everything, but the Post-Standard did not find enough believeable evidence to run the story when it first arose in 2003-04. That's why it never appeared, until ESPN thought they could make hay after missing out on the Penn State story. The University did an investigation, using a local law firm that is actually rather well respected nationally for their NCAA sports law practice. The police dept. gave it the quick flush; that much is true.

The local D.A., Fitzpatrick, came out on televsion and said that he felt the accusers were *not* credible, except for one - Zach Tomaselli - who wound up going to prison shortly afterwards for child molestation himself (takes one to know one?). The D.A. speaking out on ongoing cases (something he likes to do with alarming frequency) is a walking, talking ethics violation, a real gasbag who really should be removed from office.

Wrong. The Post-Standard had both the DA and Police chief recently say they would have prosecuted were it not for SOL. You apparently are not aware of what's going on in your own city. The Cuse investigation showed it was handled all wrong by the school, when it had lawyers intimidate a witness, and there was even mention of people in the athletic department who had corroborating info who clammed up. To top it off, your coach blasted Davis AFTER the tape came out and he said he didn't hear it. In the tape, it showed that Fine's wife was aware that Bernie went down in the basement every night to molest a 13 year old (Davis is 12 years older than Fine's son) while Laurie Fine went upstairs to put their baby to sleep. That's precisely why Fine would have been prosecuted if only Syracuse had investigated this with any diligence whatsoever because back in 2004-2005, the statute of limitations had not yet expired.

 

[upstater]

yah but not much was ever made about calhoun pushin players out that he didnt want around anymore - and you know the ones to - and who took the fall for the laptops??

Who did he push out?

Who took the fall on the laptops? Marcus Williams and AJ Price. And so?

 

[Jerry1714]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/boneyard.42324/

Their fans are about as bright as their players.

Oh, and they do not like Fishy.

 

[upstater]

I always thought they must just put a few tall kids with 4.0s on their roster to avoid stuff like this. No other way to survive having 5 kids with probably horrid grades leave early every year.

It's easy to survive. Stick them in intersession courses, do the bare minimum in the spring. The APR and GSR are not about getting degrees.

 

[mauconnfan]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/boneyard.42324/

Their fans are about as bright as their players.

Oh, and they do not like Fishy.

Imagine dasher having a problem with Fishy.....that's hilarious!!!

The Cuse board is a joke and has very little to offer when it comes to insight outside of Orangeville, very little basketball intelligence over there but still very funny for that reason alone!

 

[specialisthusky]

Imagine dasher having a problem with Fishy.....that's hilarious!!!

The Cuse board is a joke and has very little to offer when it comes to insight outside of Orangeville, very little basketball intelligence over there but still very funny for that reason alone!

F Cuse

 

[Jerry1714]

Imagine dasher having a problem with Fishy.....that's hilarious!!!

The Cuse board is a joke and has very little to offer when it comes to insight outside of Orangeville, very little basketball intelligence over there but still very funny for that reason alone!

The best part is they have a guy who says we are obsessed with them yet he has a boatright avatar, an extremely uncreative one at.

 

[mauconnfan]

F Cuse

Yeah F CUSE

 

[OkaForPrez]

The best part is they have a guy who says we are obsessed with them yet he has a boatright avatar, an extremely uncreative one at.

Jdubs frequents all the UConn threads over there and is pretty knowledgeable about UConn.

 

[huskyharry]

Agree with the rest, can't agree with this. They soft-pedaled this bigtime. Syracuse's own internal report was damning, not to mention the prosecutor's report.

You know who did a damn good job on Fine? The Syracuse local newspaper. They kept reporting. No one else did. Instead, the mass media called for apologies to Fine, while the local news made it evident that the guy should have been prosecuted years ago, but now he evaded it because his crime was beyond the statue of limitations. Even Boeheim's buddy, the DA, said Fine should have been prosecuted.

Absolutely right. How anyone can question that the abuse happened after hearing the taped conversation of Mrs. Fine is beyond me.
It seems pretty clear that Bernie abused kids who were part of the Syracuse program (and should have threfore beeen protected by that same program) for years not only while receiving a salary from Syracuse but abused the kids in hotel rooms rented by Syracuse on trips paid for by Syracuse. Fine would have gone to prison if the statute of limitations had not expired and IMHO both the Syracuse program and Coach Boeheim have not received the punishment they deserve in this matter by a longshot.

 

[7774]

Imagine dasher having a problem with Fishy.....that's hilarious!!!

The Cuse board is a joke and has very little to offer when it comes to insight outside of Orangeville, very little basketball intelligence over there but still very funny for that reason alone!

It really is hilarious. I laugh so hard every day there and highly recommend it. God it must be brutal to only have 1 NC when we have 3.

 

[Jerry1714]

Jdubs frequents all the UConn threads over there and is pretty knowledgeable about UConn.

Well Jdubbs is about as creative and witty as a white wall.

 

[caw]

Jdubs frequents all the UConn threads over there and is pretty knowledgeable about UConn.

I think you are being sarcastic about the end of that sentence. I hope so. He's a nice enough poster, honestly a lot better than a lot of the trash over there.

He also likes to pretend he knows inside stuff about UConn. I've lost track of the numerous times he's been wrong about something going on at UConn.

 

[OkaForPrez]

I think you are being sarcastic about the end of that sentence. I hope so. He's a nice enough poster, honestly a lot better than a lot of the trash over there.

He also likes to pretend he knows inside stuff about UConn. I've lost track of the numerous times he's been wrong about something going on at UConn.

Relatively speaking

 

[babysheep]

Good ol' Cuse morons.....

"I do find one thing interesting about the UConn hoop team. None of their players are ever ruled out yet their team can't play in the NCAA tournament because of their APR? Hmm."

like do their fans even know what APR stands for?