NCAA second seeding reveal

[Plebe]

Not sure there are any teams that could surpass LSU for a #2 seed yet. Those #3 seeds don't have a strong enough resume.

NC State?

NC State is already a 2 seed. It would take a team currently projected at a 3 seed or below to knock LSU off the 2 seed line.

 

[ERWUC65]

Citron had trouble covering Latson... speed seemed to be a factor.

ND observation this year: when the game is close, or they are in trouble, HH goes iso and they lose!

 

[triaddukefan]

The UNC game needs an asterisk since It's Utsby is still out with injury.

Meh. Are we doing asterisks now? Im sure you could go back through the season and give out asterisks retroactively to quite a few games. Utsby had 11 turnovers.... Yes 11.. In the first matchup, so perhaps her absence actually helped out the holes

 

[Dugway]

So far the 'dismantling' of SC has not put us ahead of SC in seeding, because it's just one game.

It's a long time ago, but SC also dismantled Texas earlier this season and suddenly became invincible. Meanwhile, TX came back and beat SC in the rematch and currently is seeded above SC.

UConn sits in a good spot at #6. TX and UCLA can still absorb losses with not much penalty, but U$C, SC and now ND are all quite vulnerable. ND also now likely won't be ACC champ, and still has to play a hot Louisville team.

Assuming NC St wins the ACC league title, I'll make brave claim that they hang on to that #8 spot that no one else seems to want.

Not sure about this portion above.

I would tend to believe if UCLA were to be paired with say the 9-17 Northwestern Wildcats team in the first round of their tournament and get beat by a dozen; they would be penalized for that loss. Particularly if they were to lose once again in the regular season to the Trojans.​

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Further, if Texas were to be paired with say the 9-21 Arkansas Razorbacks in the first round of their tournament and get beat by a dozen; they too would be penalized for that loss.​

I also think that there are possibilities that some teams could advance significantly in the seeding; perhaps not all of the way to a #1-Seed, but what would happen if say:

Ohio State were to pair with someone like #23 Michigan State in the second round, and beat the crap out of them. Then go onto play the Trojans and beat up JuJu and Co. by a dozen! And finally, go onto beat down UCLA by a dozen to win the B1G Tournament ... I believe the committee would look at that string of wins in a very favorable way.​

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Point here is that, there is still basketball to be played. It is getting close to the end, but not close enough that definitive predictions on seedings can really be made. Another thing that I hate to even mention but has a potential of happening is a major injury. This is about the time of the season when last year Elizabeth Kitley tore an ACL. Va Tech immediately went from a potential Final Four team to, well, not a final four team. Seems like the year prior, Olivia Miles went down very late into the season. Knock on wood! We've experienced our share of that, and it is dreadful when it happens. But the fact is that no team is exempt from that possibility, including those five who are currently higher seeds than UConn.

 

[HuskyNan]

Pretty good write up with comments on the top 8 teams

Women's Bracketology: USC, UConn benefit from Notre Dame loss, chaotic Thursday night

Some huge changes haven taken place since the top 16 reveal

www.cbssports.com

 

[DefenseBB]

There is no way ND stays a 1 seed. They have 4 losses and none of them are really losses that a one seed should have had. LSU losing was a huge one for UConn since now I don't see a path for LSU to jump them regardless of what they do in the SEC tournament. USC or UCLA will have at least one more loss and Texas or SC is also going to play head to head so one of them and SC would be out with another loss.

But really if you are 4 or 5 it makes no difference since you will play the other on a nuetral court before the FF anyway. UConn really is good enough to run the table but are they consistent enough?

To be fair, ND has 3 great wins (UConn, Texas -both at home and At SoCal) vs. our 1 great win over SC. They also have a really bad loss to Utah, a bad loss with Florida State at home and neutral site loss to TCU. The away loss to NC State isn't as bad as it appears. so do their wins outshine their losses?

That said, how will committee assess ND vs. UConn? My guess is they may view "trending" more important than the ND victory at home over us. So we could leap frog ND but that still leaves us behind UCLA, SoCal, Texas and SCar. We need one more quasi bad loss by SCar or SoCal. In my view both Texas and UCLA have strong enough resume's to sustain a quasi bad loss and still stay ahead of us.

But yes, we are in the hunt for #1 seed. How important is it, not much. We need to play well against good teams which we've proven 1 time out of 4 this year (but boy was that 1 time great!).

 

[HuskyNan]

To be fair, ND has 3 great wins (UConn, Texas -both at home and At SoCal) vs. our 1 great win over SC. They also have a really bad loss to Utah, a bad loss with Florida State at home and neutral site loss to TCU. The away loss to NC State isn't as bad as it appears. so do their wins outshine their losses?

That said, how will committee assess ND vs. UConn? My guess is they may view "trending" more important than the ND victory at home over us. So we could leap frog ND but that still leaves us behind UCLA, SoCal, Texas and SCar. We need one more quasi bad loss by SCar or SoCal. In my view both Texas and UCLA have strong enough resume's to sustain a quasi bad loss and still stay ahead of us.

But yes, we are in the hunt for #1 seed. How important is it, not much. We need to play well against good teams which we've proven 1 time out of 4 this year (but boy was that 1 time great!).

Florida State is a Quad 1 team

 

[DefenseBB]

The ND loss, the LSU loss in OT and TX escaping their own upset continues to demonstrate what I and others have been talking about, that there’s still a lot of basketball to be played and it’s highly likely that there will be more changes to the brackets and seeding leading up to the final selection committee choices.

Of all the top teams, UConn is the least likely to lose either Sunday in the last regular season game or in the conference tournament. That fact along with the potential upset of teams still ahead of UConn does open the door to a potential #1 seed for the Huskies. Before I get a lot of flak for that remark, let me emphasize the word “potential.”

Before you rewrite history on you getting flak, the issue was when we beat SCar, you stated "at a minimum we went ahead of SC". Which many of us pointed out, "No, we did not leapfrog SC" and last night's reveal proved just that-SC's resume is still better than ours. Could we still achieve a #1 seed, yes we could, will we? Probably not but at least now there is slight possibility. Ultimately your issue seems to be a refusal on acknowledging how the committee actually works vs. how YOU want it to work. Nothing about last night's reveal suggests you are right. It merely suggests due to bad losses by others, we are back in the conversation.

 

[DefenseBB]

Florida State is a Quad 1 team

Yes, it is and despite that the comments this morning from Creme and others put the ND seeding in jeopardy as it still isn't a great loss at home.
The issue as I point out is how their losses compare to their wins and how all the other teams losses compare to their wins. Also the timing (how well is a team playing) comes into the fray. Losing 2 games of you last however many, needs to hold up against what the other contenders are doing.

@oldude is right that our path to a Tourney title and strong finish is significantly better than the others but will the others have any questionable losses. Probably not.

 

[The CDR-Ret]

It’s a travesty IMHO that a team tied for the most quad 1 wins (SC) got moved to a 2 seed based on 1 game.

It's because they lost to UConn...

 

[jaydee602]

NC State is already a 2 seed. It would take a team currently projected at a 3 seed or below to knock LSU off the 2 seed line.

I guess the next question is: Could NC State surpass LSU as the 3rd #2 seed? If NC State wins the ACC Tournament & LSU gets defeated in the SEC tourney, is that enough to move the Wolfpack past LSU?

 

[oldude]

Before you rewrite history on you getting flak, the issue was when we beat SCar, you stated "at a minimum we went ahead of SC". Which many of us pointed out, "No, we did not leapfrog SC" and last night's reveal proved just that-SC's resume is still better than ours. Could we still achieve a #1 seed, yes we could, will we? Probably not but at least now there is slight possibility. Ultimately your issue seems to be a refusal on acknowledging how the committee actually works vs. how YOU want it to work. Nothing about last night's reveal suggests you are right. It merely suggests due to bad losses by others, we are back in the conversation.

It’s official. You win the Beating a Dead Horse award.

I am pleased that you do acknowledge the more relevant aspect of my argument that UConn is “in the hunt for a #1 seed.” Congratulations on covering all the bases.

 

[bballnut90]

My guess for seedings right now is:
1. UCLA (R1)
2. Texas (R2)
3. USC (R3)
4. South Carolina (R4)
5. Notre Dame (R4)
6. UCONN (R3)
7. LSU (R1)
8. NC State (R2)

UCLA/Texas are pretty safely on the one line, both can absorb losses in the conference tournaments and not have to sweat. UCLA can lose to USC in both the regular season finale and B10 and be safely on the 1 line.

As long as USC only loses to UCLA the rest of the way they’re on the 1 line. Even with 2 more losses I think they’re okay but likely drop to #4 overall.

South Carolina solidifies a 1 seed winning the SEC Tournament. Playing in SC gives them a big advantage over Texas/LSU.

Notre Dame needs to win out to have a shot at a 1. If they win ACCT and South Carolina loses, I think ND gets the last 1 seed.

UCONN is still on the outside looking in, but if Notre Dame loses in the ACCT and South Carolina drops to someone other than Texas, I think UCONN could sneak up to #4.

LSU’s loss last night I think eliminates them from being a #1, but they’re safely a 2. Even if they beat both Texas/SC in the SECT I think they’re at best the top #2 seed which means a date with USC or Notre Dame.