NCAA looking to raise APR to 900 for post-season effective immediately

[Rumrunner]

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-requirements-for-postseason-play-on-friday/1



"Emmert said if approved, one proposal would immediately implement a baseline acceptable Academic Progress Rate (APR) requirement for postseason play of 900, which would include the 2012 NCAA men's basketball tournament."


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Most calculations indicate UConn can't get the 4 year APR of 900 this year.


"Next year, the four-year rolling score will include individual academic year scores from 2007-08 (909), 2008-09 (844), 2009-10 (826) and 2010-11. That means UConn, even if it scores a perfect, 1,000, will be unable to boost its rolling score to 925 or even 900."

http://articles.courant.com/2011-05...tment-historical-penalties-basketball-program

 

[iam76]

what a cool system.. i'd rather be shot in the face then try and understand apr

 

[Rumrunner]

The cliff note version is the emasculated NCAA (see tO$U, Auburn, U$C), is attempting to pretend to be stern on academics.

Of course, if your school cheats for its players in the classroom (see UNC), the APR is not impacted.

But the upshot is, there is a real possibility UConn would be ineligible for the NCAA tourney, no matter the NCAA's hypocrisy.

 

[Karmacop]

Well, that certainly puts a damper on the season, doesn't it? Anyone know what the real chances are that something like this gets passed for this coming year?

 

[upstater]

The NCAA could have passed tougher admissions standards, but that would mean actual reform rather than just the appearance of reform (which is what the APR is really all about).

Remember, Herbst criticized the APR as bogus when she became president.

 

[61cygni]

Not having a grace period for something calculated over multiple years is beyond stupid. Don't think it will be approved.

 

[Mots010]

Not having a grace period for something calculated over multiple years is beyond stupid. Don't think it will be approved.

Seriously. You've got a bunch of kids committed ready for their first game in a few weeks, and then you drop this bomb on them? Why not just change the rules in the past and take away our National Championship? You can take away their rings and banner at the first game.

 

[Nully]

Punish kids who are doing the right thing because of the kids who messed up before them. Typical NCAA.

 

[Revrat]

Of course it will
You see any big boys on that list other than Uconn? They would love to keep us out

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[Scot-e]

Ummmm that sounds like it has a bats chance in hell of passing this year. I just don't see how you can not give schools a chance to comply with any new rules. It would be pretty short sighted and would once again show that they are a beast without a head and a alternative is needed that brings stability not insanity to the process of college sports.

 

[HuskyCarlJ]

The irony, of course, is that the APR that came out after we won the NCAA tournament included about 4 players that actually played in the tournament. The APR that will come out this season will reflect last year's academic standing (and should be much better considering we're bringing back all but 4 of the players from last years' team in good academic standing, plus graduations). So the first APR calculation which would reflect our ability to react to the NCAA punishment will come out next season.

 

[DogMania]

Can you imagine if UConn finishes ranked in the top 4 and is not allowed to participate in the NCAA tournament this year? Not only does that penalize the current players but college hoops fans in general. Who wants a tournament that does not include one of the top programs in the nations, not to mention the current NC who would not be allowed to defend their championship.

That would be one big ugly black eye for the NCAAs that would garner a ton of criticism and backlash. Just the fact the president of the NCAA is even suggesting a vote reeks of poor judgement.

Now I don't have a problem with them instituting sound measures that make sense and give programs time to adjust. Shame on those programs that don't change their MOs. But to institute it this season is flat out cruel. As much as I hate certain programs, I would not wish this upon any of them in this fashion.

I just hope this gets nipped in the bud immediately so that it doesn't hang over their heads and turn into a distraction.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

The vast majority of college basketball fans would love to see this happen to UConn. Don't kid yourself.

 

[prankster]

That would be one big ugly black eye for the NCAAs that would garner a ton of criticism and backlash. Just the fact the president of the NCAA is even suggesting a vote reeks of poor judgement.

"Stupid is as stupid does, sir."

 

[DogMania]

The vast majority of college basketball fans would love to see this happen to UConn. Don't kid yourself.

I don't agree. Yes, there will be a good amount of UConn haters, but most casual fans and big-time college hoops fans, want to see the best teams battle for the title.

Let's just say for example sake, UNC, was not allowed this year. Would you want go into the tournament knowing that a team that might battle us for the title wasn't even part of the field?

Yeah, there are haters, but I don't think most fans are like that.

 

[ctchamps]

I can't imagine that implementing a new standard with past scores won't be contested in the courts. I believe the NCAA would have to make calculations starting with this academic year. Past academic years wouldn't be able to count against the new standards because universities can argue they acted in the past with an understanding of the previous penalties and standards.

And this new standard is only saber rattling. A lot of schools have already figured out how to game the statistics. Other schools, UConn included didn't attempt to fudge things. That will change with most schools. North Carolina is a good example of how easy it is to cover up things, and only major screw ups ever allow things to get revealed.

The only way to stop this is if the NCAA used some of its revenues to review every school every year for compliance. That will never happen. So all this posturing is a farce.

 

[HuskyCarlJ]

I do think that one danger is that most people agree with the aims of the APR and don't know how its calculated. So, while they might be upset UConn wouldn't be in the tournament, it would be politically untenable to argue that they shouldn't be punished for being one of the worst programs academically (which the statistic would ostensibly prove). The same way when the APR came out after the NCAA title last year it tainted the title in a lot of people's minds despite the fact that the APR calculation only reflected the academic performance from the previous season, not the season in which the title was won.

 

[kobebeanbryant]

even acknowledging the inherent flaws in the way the apr is calculated, it is still embarrassing that we are one of the only top tier teams that doesn't meet the criteria.

 

[Rumrunner]

My guess will be the NCAA follows the recommendation of the acad. committee and implements it for the 2012-2013 season.

If they do that, does UConn stilll qualify?

2009-2010's is going to be a killer.

'07-'08 909
'08-'09 844
'09-'10 826
'10-'11 1000

Average: 894

So next season, UConn is banned for sure.

 

[SkyWalker2011]

Its most likely that it won't be implemented right away, so we should do our best not to dwell on it and focus on supporting our Huskies.

 

[ctchamps]

even acknowledging the inherent flaws in the way the apr is calculated, it is still embarrassing that we are one of the only top tier teams that doesn't meet the criteria.

It is apparently embarrassing. It would be legitimately embarrassing if an outside audit was performed on every school to determine if the reporting by universities was on the up and up. UConn can be low because they are one of the few schools with players having bad academic standards. Or they can be similar to many other institutions but chose to report things legitimately and did not cheat on the reporting.

 

[Rumrunner]

The vote is this Friday. The recommendation is for the 2012-2013 season. There are very few schools that will be effected.

Come Friday, the headline will be "UConn banned from post-season play for 2012-2013". The only way that doesn't happen is if the ncaa disregards the recommendations. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to solve the problem.

UConn needs to overcome the fact that there are too few schools with a real dog in the hunt to vote against the recommendation.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Hasn't Dick Vitale been openly politicking for this kind of rule the last couple years?

 

[Dann]

this is dukes way of making sure they make the final 4 every year.

 

[Rumrunner]

And not to be even more pessimistic, if the rule is in place for 2012-2013, it most likely means UConn is banned for the 2012-2013 post-season as well as the 2013-2014 post-eason.

The 2013-2014 season's APR would be 892 even if UConn got a 950 for the 2010-2011 season and a 950 for the 2011-2012 season.

Close to an apocalyptic outcome.