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USA Today article talks about proposed changes to NCAA guidelines that would limit the number of transfer waivers granted. NCAA to tighten transfer guidelines, limit players gaining immediate eligibility

The NCAA Division I council is expected to approve a package of new guidelines that could make it more difficult for college football and basketball players who transfer to receive immediate eligibility via waivers, according to a document obtained by USA TODAY Sports.

The updated language of that same guideline is less broad, requiring “documented extenuating, extraordinary and mitigating circumstances outside of the student-athlete’s control that directly impacts the health, safety or well-being of the student-athlete.”

The addition of those two words — extenuating and extraordinary — as well as other language throughout the proposal, appears to send the message that the NCAA wants to tighten up on the requirements for waivers.
 
The addition of "extenuating circumstances" is curious as those are circumstances that make a bad act forgivable or deserving of less punishment.
 
This seems more like trying to get the milk back in the glass after it already spilled. Too late. Transfers are just now part of the fabric in my opinion so just go with it.
 
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Yes, maybe they finally realized that star qb who doesn’t want to sit on the bench might not be more important than dying family member...
 
CL82 said:
This. I don't really care what the rules are. Just give me a bright line clear guide line so that the results are predictable and applied equally to all.
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Yeah, it's tiring seeing schools like Notre Dame and Ohio St being given preferential treatment
 
Carnac said:
It's obvious that coaches and AD across the country are complaining (and concerned) about the wave of players wanting to transfer in the last 3-4 years. It's become the "new" normal. Players today now think no more of transferring than they do of taking a shower and putting on fresh underwear. Players today transfer for a myriad of reasons, and not necessarily about playing time.
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I am just glad showering and fresh underwear are part of the norm. ;)
 
Typical NCAA policy language: murky. They might as well just say "The rules are what we say they are when we make our decision, depending on our mood, the politics of the situation, the schools and coaches involved, and what our decision makers had for breakfast."
 
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Carnac said:
Good luck with that. You're backing the NCAA into a corner (I'm with you there) and asking them to be transparent, and accountable for their decisions, which up to this point, they have not had to be. They don't gives reasons for the why or how of any decisions they make regarding transfers. I'm guessing they'd like to keep it that way.
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If they would just say, "No exceptions for any reason" they could abdicate all accountability and would never have to explain anything or have anyone question their decisions. It's just so easy: Leave the rule like it is now (transfer = sit 1 year, grad transfer = play immediately), or change it to whatever, and have zero exceptions for any reason. Coach who recruited you leaves? Fine - you can leave too, and play after you sit a year. Hurricane in Houston? Fine - go home and help your family, and try to stay in shape because you can play again in a year.
 
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RockyMTblue2 said:
Wait, I've got it - it's called the Westbrook Rule right?
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On one hand I think it would be better for Westbrook's waiver to get denied, give her knee a chance to get 'really' healed. But then I think there would be zero chance of having her at UConn for 2 years. But, if it does get approved and she's good to play, I still worry about her staying for a 2nd year since she'll turn 20 during calendar 2020.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Wait, I've got it - it's called the Westbrook Rule right?
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I don't see how Westbrook will be impacted by this, my guess is that these changes (if any) will be in place for the 2020 Academic year and not apply to existing waivers. The paper work for Evina is already in and changes to the procedure would require a rewrite of the appeal. Football players would also have a more immediate impact having completed spring practices and start of training camps about a month away.
I sense a trial balloon here by the NCAA as in leak out what we are planning on doing and see how people and institutions react. I also sense more confusion (perceived bias?) in these new guidelines which might kill the whole thing. Here is my free advice to the NCAA: Delegate all immediate eligibility request to the conferences.
 
UConnCat said:
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The updated language of that same guideline is less broad, requiring “documented extenuating, extraordinary and mitigating circumstances outside of the student-athlete’s control that directly impacts the health, safety or well-being of the student-athlete.”

The addition of those two words — extenuating and extraordinary — as well as other language throughout the proposal, appears to send the message that the NCAA wants to tighten up on the requirements for waivers.
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I like the language, but I don't think they're going far enough. I think that all waivers should be granted, however, you either redshirt for a year OR... you lose one year of eligibility on the back end. Of course this may have little impact on the male football and basketball players. However, it might have a major impact in women's sports. Decision making may change quite a bit if the young athlete realizes that he or she is committing to a program, not just to one coach or one friend on the team. Secondly, it would also have an impact on the willingness of coaches to accept a transfer, knowing up front that they get the kid for 2 years max, and some for only 1 year. Unless, of course you pull an EDD. :rolleyes:
 
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JavaMan said:
I like the language, but I don't think they're going far enough. I think that all waivers should be granted, however you either redshirt for a year OR... you lose one year of eligibility on the back end. Of course this may have little impact on the male football and basketball players. However, it might have a major impact in women's sports. Decision making may change quite a bit if the young athlete realizes that they're committing to a program not just to one coach your one friend on the team. Secondly, it would also have an impact on the willingness of coaches to accept a transfer.
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As I have stated many times, make all sports have the same transfer rules. Softball players can play immediately without any waivers so why are they treated differently than basketball and football players? Oops, I forgot it's the monopoly NCAA...
 
CocoHusky said:
I don't see how Westbrook will be impacted by this, my guess is that these changes (if any) will be in place for the 2020 Academic year and not apply to existing waivers. The paper work for Evina is already in and changes to the procedure would require a rewrite of the appeal. Football players would also have a more immediate impact having completed spring practices and start of training camps about a month away.
I sense a trial balloon here by the NCAA as in leak out what we are planning on doing and see how people and institutions react. I also sense more confusion (perceived bias?) in these new guidelines which might kill the whole thing. Here is my free advice to the NCAA: Delegate all immediate eligibility request to the conferences.
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I thought I just recently read a post by one of the beat writers that stated UConn was still working on the Westbrook waiver and it had not been submitted to the NCAA yet?
 
soxfan23 said:
I thought I just recently read a post by one of the beat writers that stated UConn was still working on the Westbrook waiver and it had not been submitted to the NCAA yet?
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It is my understanding that UConn's waiver request for Westbrook has been submitted and the school is waiting for the NCAA's response. Quite often during the process, the committee will ask a school for specifics and/or additional information on particular item and there is a need to extrapolate. So perhaps there was a request from the NCAA for an addendum to the original waiver request, and quite possibly that might be what UConn is "still working on"; however, several articles in the Courant and the CT have previously indicated that UConn has submitted a waiver request and are awaiting the NCAA's decision...
 
soxfan23 said:
I thought I just recently read a post by one of the beat writers that stated UConn was still working on the Westbrook waiver and it had not been submitted to the NCAA yet?
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You are correct.
 
CocoHusky said:
You are correct.
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Thanks for providing this article, Coco. I guess that we have conflicting data because Geno in the article in the Courant was talking about the "wait" and the inconsistencies involved in the NCAA decision-making and Kelli Stacy mentioned that the duration of waiver decision process varies case by case. I am confused, if not perplexed, as to how UConn is "awaiting" the NCAA decision, if they are yet to file, as the 6/24 Connolly post states...
 
tchalla1 said:
Thanks for providing this article, Coco. I guess that we have conflicting data because Geno in the article in the Courant was talking about the "wait" and the inconsistencies involved in the NCAA decision-making and Kelli Stacy mentioned that the duration of waiver decision process varies case by case. I am confused, if not perplexed, as to how UConn is "awaiting" the NCAA decision, if they are yet to file, as the 6/24 Connolly post states...
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I was also confused because there was article from the Courant written in the past tense, as in the waiver "was" submitted.
 
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More on the new rules, Westbrook's waiver, and other stuff:


And for what it’s worth, Geno Auriemma said on Monday at his Fore the Kids Golf Tournament that they still have not sent in a waiver request.

“They’ve got to put together a whole list of things they have to send in, so they’re still working on that,” he said. “And there’s no, ‘Well if you do this it’ll get approved. If you do this, they won’t.’ Who knows?”


www.theuconnblog.com

NCAA Tightens Waiver Guidelines, Will it Affect Evina Westbrook?

UConn women’s basketball is preparing to submit a waiver request for the Tennessee transfer.
www.theuconnblog.com www.theuconnblog.com
 
There should be 1 set of transfer rules for ALL NCAA sports not the "one from column A, one from column B" that there is now! Some consistency would be appreciated! Yes I know we're talking NCAA here!
If your recruiting head coach leaves for any reason the player(s) can transfer with no sit-out year!
If the school revamps the program, going from Div. I to Div. II, for example, the player(s) can transfer freely!
If the player flunks out or is kicked out of school if they go somewhere else they must sit-out 1 year to reestablish themselves, grades-wise and/or social-wise!
It should be known ahead of time what will be required to leave.
 
Engineer90 said:
New rule: Everyone transferring to ND gets a waiver. Everyone else can pound sand. Especially transfers to UConn.
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Name for us the UCONN WBB player(s) that has ever submitted a waiver for immediate eligibility.
 
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