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connVA said:
Not that I watch the Lakers much but agree with others that Luka looks like one of the more out-of-shape elite athletes I’ve seen in a while, especially considering how he’s in his mid 20s
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I don't think the average fan realized how bad things had gotten on this front until we saw him in a Lakers uniform. This wasn't a case of an athlete coming back from injury and being a little behind on his conditioning. This wasn't an athlete who was going to be able to play his way back into shape. This was a guy who needed a full blown re-set on his diet and lifestyle.

He really needs to take these next few months to transform his body and recommit to the work and discipline that got him here. The early playoff exit might be the best thing that happened to him if he does.
 
champs99and04 said:
Oh I don't blame the Lakers for taking the trade. I still think it's an awful/shady trade if for no other reason than that the Mavs never even fielded offers from 28 other teams. My point is that what was best for the Lakers in that scenario wasn't necessarily what was best for LeBron.

Personally, I think the entire Lakers chapter of LeBron's career has been awful for him and the for the league. Yes, he won a championship, but we're talking about a guy who was coming off eight straight finals trips and has since been to just one in seven seasons. He had the chance back in 2018 to join a more stable organization with a nucleus of young talent already in place that could have prolonged his title window and enhanced his overall basketball experience. Instead he chose the Lakers for what were presumably a lot of non-basketball reasons. He has no one to blame but himself for that.
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It opened up the East for more contenders and variety of teams.

Bron won a chip, he would’ve won MVP in ‘21 and could have won another chip if not for Solomon Hill, too. Last couple years have been rough though, for sure. But the West is amazing.
 
champs99and04 said:
Oh I don't blame the Lakers for taking the trade. I still think it's an awful/shady trade if for no other reason than that the Mavs never even fielded offers from 28 other teams. My point is that what was best for the Lakers in that scenario wasn't necessarily what was best for LeBron.

Personally, I think the entire Lakers chapter of LeBron's career has been awful for him and the for the league. Yes, he won a championship, but we're talking about a guy who was coming off eight straight finals trips and has since been to just one in seven seasons. He had the chance back in 2018 to join a more stable organization with a nucleus of young talent already in place that could have prolonged his title window and enhanced his overall basketball experience. Instead he chose the Lakers for what were presumably a lot of non-basketball reasons. He has no one to blame but himself for that.
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I don't think you can do the "sure he won a championship" thing and be dismissive. How many stars never won a single one?

Here's a 40-year-old who is still a top 10 player in the league and people (not you) want to say he's the problem
 
Inyatkin said:
I don't think you can do the "sure he won a championship" thing and be dismissive. How many stars never won a single one?

Here's a 40-year-old who is still a top 10 player in the league and people (not you) want to say he's the problem
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Guy just averaged 25-9-6 2st 2blk against a very good team who has been playing their best ball.

Going on 41 years old playing 41 mpg. People are weird, man.
 
superjohn said:
The Lakers also had no chance of winning it all with AD. They maybe had a chance at winning this series with him if they were somehow the third seed but I highly doubt they would've been in this position as the third seed with homecourt advantage had AD remained.

They were gifted 26 year old Luka straight up for 32 year old AD in one of the most ridiculous trades you'll ever see, of course the Lakers had to take it. If the Lakers actually cared about winning more than the "show" they would get rid of Lebron instead of paying him $50 million every year.
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LeBron should’ve retired 3 years ago- at this point he’s just padding stats- let the young guns play already. Can’t remember a player who went from the most exciting player to watch to the most unexciting player to watch.
 
Lebron won a ring, broke the all time scoring record, scored his 40,000th point, made 7 all star teams, 6 All NBA teams, averaged 27/8/8, got to play with his son, and made like $300 million in LA

I think he’s fine lol
 
Knicks seem like they are better on the road then at home, still very early in this game.
 
If the Knicks lose this series when 95% of teams that go up 3-1 win them, Thibs is toast.
 
REB1094 said:
Lebron won a ring, broke the all time scoring record, scored his 40,000th point, made 7 all star teams, 6 All NBA teams, averaged 27/8/8, got to play with his son, and made like $300 million in LA

I think he’s fine lol
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Won a Mickey Mouse ring. I can’t believe people actually count that. Good on him for making the team draft his kid who wouldn’t start on a contending NCAA team as well.

I would hope he breaks records, it has taken him long enough
 
I'm not a huge NBA fan but the Knicks series was must-watch for me. Nice crossover and shot by Brunson. Should be good series against Boston.
 
navery12 said:
Jalen Brunson with the shades of Kemba. That was awesome

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It reminded me of Kemba but Kemba busted a center's ankles and made him crumble. It was so epic because it was right at the buzzer in an incredible Big East tournament game. I've seen guys ankles buckle where they crumble like that before. I don't think I've ever seen someone put a great perimeter defender on skates the way he did to Thompson for the game winner. It looked like the dude was on a snowboard and went 10 feet out of the picture.
 
Inyatkin said:
I don't think you can do the "sure he won a championship" thing and be dismissive. How many stars never won a single one?
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If this were any other player, I'd agree. But he really did set the bar high enough during that eight year stretch that I consider the last seven years of his career to be somewhat unnoteworthy from a team perspective. Obviously the fact that he's still this good at 40 solidifies his place on a very short list of all-time players. (I'm not a huge GOAT debate guy, but I think he's definitely in that tier)
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Maybe. Feels harsh though. Boston is miles ahead of NY and has been the whole year.
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Your last sentence is why it needs to happen. You can't waste a year of the championship window with a coach and core that showed all year they were not on the same level as Boston/Cleveland/OKC
 
Brunson sure shut that Detroit fanbase up after the crowd was chanting flopper, and they thought they were all badasses after winning that challenge. They really thought they had that game won.
 
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