NBA Draft Measurements for Shabazz & DeAndre

[CAHUSKY]

My disagreement or disconnect as you twist it is with respect to when players should turn pro. Bazz is a senior. Bazz is projected at end of first round early 2nd. I think 5'11" measurement makes it a tad more likely that he is selected later in the draft. You think shorter is better?

Do you really think nba folks haven't known exactly how tall Shabazz is for the last 4 years? It's not really a mystery.

 

[imno1]

Not saying he's Chris Paul but Chris is a top 3 point in the league and he has to be about the same height as Shabazz. Same with Kyle Lowry.

 

[Stinger92860]

Huh. Boat must be a solid 5'10" barefoot then

5-8 to 5-9

Edit: and he dunks like he is 6-9

 

[auror]

Wow, Vonleh measured a huge wingspan and hands. Bigger hands than Kawhi Leonard! Did you guys know Kawhi Leonard has huge hands?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Do you really think nba folks haven't known exactly how tall Shabazz is for the last 4 years? It's not really a mystery.

WTF, then why do they measure if they already know? If you respond you must answer that.
This is really stupid. It is a small factor amongst many in where Shabazz gets drafted, but a 2" drop from listed height is on the high side. I am rooting for him to get drafted in the first round to a good team and so I am a little concerned or possibly paranoid that 5'11" is the excuse* the NBA group-think succumbs to on draft night that drops Shabazz out of the first round. IF he was a no-brainer first rounder this wouldn't be a concern or conversation. And maybe all the mocks have him as late first because they know Shabazz is 5'11", but my understanding to this point is its been more about criticisms of his overall game. You can read that criticism on any draft site so I don't need to repeat it here because I think it is wrong and I don't need you nitwits saying that I am saying his game is deficient or that I'm saying he's too short. I'm simply concerned about where he gets drafted. If you/anybody weren't also concerned we wouldn't be debating about this.

*ie on draft day there was some dumb rumor about Caron's health, heart I think. Sometimes just a little something makes a guy plummet on draft day. We just watched this with Manziel (see below).

P.S. Football is much more closely watched than hoops and yet this happened.
Texas A&M quarterback and aspiring first overall pick Johnny Manziel said that he would measure in at 72 inches “on the dot” when he got to the combine this week.
It’s a good thing that Manziel’s football future doesn’t hinge on his ability to guess his own height down to a precise inch. Manziel came in a shade under six feet tall when he was measured in Indianapolis on Friday, landing at 5-foot-11 3/4 and 207 pounds in the final reckoning.
So nba folks implicitly know Shabazz Napier's exact height and yet the freakin' Heisman Trophy winner doesn't know his own height?! I'm not saying this is why Manziel slipped or that Shabazz will slip and the height will be why Shabazz slips. I'm hoping for something positive ala LeBron's tweets to come to the fore on draft night and Shabazz is smartly taken in the middle of the first round. OK?!!

 

[James]

WTF, then why do they measure if they already know? If you respond you must answer that.
This is really stupid. It is a small factor amongst many in where Shabazz gets drafted, but a 2" drop from listed height is on the high side. I am rooting for him to get drafted in the first round to a good team and so I am a little concerned or possibly paranoid that 5'11" is the excuse* the NBA group-think succumbs to on draft night that drops Shabazz out of the first round. IF he was a no-brainer first rounder this wouldn't be a concern or conversation. And maybe all the mocks have him as late first because they know Shabazz is 5'11", but my understanding to this point is its been more about criticisms of his overall game. You can read that criticism on any draft site so I don't need to repeat it hear because I think it is wrong and I don't need you nitwits saying that I am saying his game is deficient or that I'm saying he's too short. I'm simply concerned about where he gets drafted. If you/anybody weren't also concerned we wouldn't be debating about this.

*ie on draft day there was some dumb rumor about Caron's health, heart I think. Sometimes just a little something makes a guy plummet on draft day. We just watched this with Manziel (see below).

P.S. Football is much more closely watched than hoops and yet this happened.
Texas A&M quarterback and aspiring first overall pick Johnny Manziel said that he would measure in at 72 inches “on the dot” when he got to the combine this week.
It’s a good thing that Manziel’s football future doesn’t hinge on his ability to guess his own height down to a precise inch. Manziel came in a shade under six feet tall when he was measured in Indianapolis on Friday, landing at 5-foot-11 3/4 and 207 pounds in the final reckoning.
So nba folks implicitly know Shabazz Napier's exact height and yet the freakin' Heisman Trophy winner doesn't know his own height?! I'm not saying this is why Manziel slipped or that Shabazz will slip and the height will be why Shabazz slips. I'm hoping for something positive ala LeBron's tweets to come to the fore on draft night and Shabazz is smartly taken in the middle of the first round. OK?!!

I mean his height is an issue , but he has longer arms so that helps. The original poster youre responding to has a valid point, napiers size isn't a new thing, he's been on the radar since a frosh . His one con has been size. I'll go on record he is pretty much a lock first rounder , stock has been on the rise . My guess is hell have teams in the mid teens targeting him after workouts

 

[HooperScooper]

WTF, then why do they measure if they already know? If you respond you must answer that.
This is really stupid. It is a small factor amongst many in where Shabazz gets drafted, but a 2" drop from listed height is on the high side.

It's not a 2" drop. In basketball your height is measured in sneakers. They updated the pre-draft measurements and he's 6-1 in sneakers. He was listed at 6-1 at UConn. So no difference.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre...draft=0&pos=0&source=NBA Draft Combine&sort=1

 

[Gurleyman]

Did someone reallly think it was significant that Manziel's projection for his own height was off by 1/4 inch? Most guys are probably guilty of rounding up to the next full inch, anyway

 

[Dynasty]

DeAndre has a body fat percentage of 3.9%... That's the third lowest of players at the combine after Russ Smith (3.5%) and Jerami Grant(3.8%).

 

[tcf15]

@chadfordinsider: Shabazz Napier with a 37.5" max vert. #NBACombine

@GoodmanESPN: Surprised that Russ Smith only got a 34-inch max vertical. Shabazz Napier's was 37.5.

 

[aceboon]

@chadfordinsider: Shabazz Napier with a 37.5" max vert. #NBACombine

whoa, holy sh_t, Bazz always did get up high for some rebounds, surprised he never threw one down during a fast break. i'm following convos on twitter, anybody watching care to share what is going on between Fran Fraschilla, Jay Williams, and Chad Ford? From what I'm reading it seems they are going at over Bazz vs Ennis.

 

[CallMeBruce]

@chadfordinsider: Shabazz Napier with a 37.5" max vert. #NBACombine

@GoodmanESPN: Surprised that Russ Smith only got a 34-inch max vertical. Shabazz Napier's was 37.5.

Isn't that pretty close to Ben Gordon's?

 

[aceboon]

Isn't that pretty close to Ben Gordon's?

exactly the same

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Gordon-2585/

 

[tcf15]

whoa, holy sh_t, Bazz always did get up high for some rebounds, surprised he never threw one down during a fast break. i'm following convos on twitter, anybody watching care to share what is going on between Fran Fraschilla, Jay Williams, and Chad Ford? From what I'm reading it seems they are going at over Bazz vs Ennis.

I'm thinking Fran and Jay disagree with Chad in that they feel Bazz is a better player than Ennis and should be drafted before. I saw Chad Ford retweeted this:

@Lockedonsports: The key on the Ennis v. Napier debate is the age difference. Napier is 22 and Ennis is 19. @chadfordinsider only one hitting on this

 

[tcf15]

Wow, Bazz with a higher vert than Marcus Smart:

@chadfordinsider: Marcus Smart with a 36" max vert. Good numbers for him. #NBACombine

 

[Dogdeacon]

="HooperScooper, post: 967225, member: 10"]It's not a 2" drop. In basketball your height is measured in sneakers. They updated the pre-draft measurements and he's 6-1 in sneakers. He was listed at 6-1 at UConn. So no difference.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre...draft=0&pos=0&source=NBA Draft Combine&sort=1

[Did someone reallly think it was significant that Manziel's projection for his own height was off by 1/4 inch? Most guys are probably guilty of rounding up to the next full inch, anyway/

I dunno the Manziel thing was lead in first article that popped up on when I googled Manziel height. Point is its a negative tidbit that's in the mix though far behind 'possible ', 'partier' and 'too reckless' when analyzing where Manziel was drafted.

The 2" drop is vs the shoes, going thru the list I find vast majority had 1" or 1.5" drop and at quick glance Isiah Austin only other one who is 2" shorter without shoes.

Here's Draft Express analysis (hmm, where have I heard this);
-Shabazz Napier: The two-time NCAA Champion measured an inch shorter than expected at 5-11 without shoes. He does sport a solid 6-3 ½ wingspan but his lack of explosiveness combined with less than stellar height hurts his potential a bit. There are plenty of NBA players with similar measurements as Napier's though, for example Patrick Mills, who looks comparable physically in terms of sheer height/length and reach.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz31tlm9XgL
http://www.draftexpress.com

 

[CallMeBruce]

exactly the same

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Gordon-2585/

I AM A GENIUS

 

[CAHUSKY]

WTF, then why do they measure if they already know? If you respond you must answer that.
?!!

Part tradition and partly to get absolutely correct numbers. I don't think any basketball fan and surely any nba exec didn't know Shabazz was just about 6ft.

 

[James]

Explains why he was such a rebounding savant at the pg position . Ennis' age is great , but a lot of players just don't get better the rate napier improved in 4 years.

 

[James]

@adamosgp: 3/4 court sprint time for Tyler Ennis is 3.30. Shabazz Napier better at 3.20. Exum was 3.19. #NBADraftCombine

 

[Dynasty]

Shabazz's stock should be moving up.

 

[aceboon]

@adamosgp: 3/4 court sprint time for Tyler Ennis is 3.30. Shabazz Napier better at 3.20. Exum was 3.19. #NBADraftCombine

Nice, Bazz said in his interview that he wanted to show people he was more athletic than people thought, he's doing a good job of that.

 

[tcf15]

Aaron Gordon probably wins the vert jump:

NBADraft
They had to raise the bar for @IamAaronGordon's Max Vertical Jump! #NBACombine #ESPN2 https://post original url/wRECjCznlS
5/16/14, 10:44 AM

 

[CallMeBruce]

Shabazz's stock should be moving up.

If he keeps this up he might be the third PG drafted.

 

[HooperScooper]

Nice, Bazz said in his interview that he wanted to show people he was more athletic than people thought, he's doing a good job of that.

The knock we've always heard on Shabazz was that he wasn't that athletic. Those sprint and vertical jump numbers certainly refute that.