National sentiment

[djct1999]

They are watching as schools like Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Boston College, Northwestern, Missouri, Mississippi State, Nebraska, make more money than them.

College Football's Most Valuable Teams: Texas A&M Jumps To No. 1

 

[nomar]

If we don't uphold the football program, we can forget the P5 and become Washington University at St Louis or something.

Or, you know, one of those teams that won a basketball title with an FCS football team.

Gosh, I know that’s happened before. I think maybe in the late 90s?

UConn basketball success has never been tied to the football team.

 

[upstater]

College Football's Most Valuable Teams: Texas A&M Jumps To No. 1

Yowza--surprising that Texas A&M has now surpassed Texas. But, that's what happens when a team move to a real conference.

 

[djct1999]

You can only sit by the phone waiting for that girl who has your number to call even though you keep seeing and hearing that she’s kicking it to everyone else. The school and state were bleeding and rapidly!!! This is as much a safe gamble if anything. Football has helped for five years or so and the guy who got us there is also part of the demise. I feel like the edsall rehire was to cleanse his soul. No one including UConn has taken football seriously. Time to sum for the notre dame model but in a flip.

Yes, in hindsight, that Edsall re-hire and his low salary foreshadowed how we ended up here today.

 

[djct1999]

Yowza--surprising that Texas A&M has now surpassed Texas. But, that's what happens when a team move to a real conference.

Except when you read the finer print and see how Texas A & M jumped in front. Texas and OU are cash cows and always will be. This idea that they will jump is not necessarily true at all. In fact, you can easily argue that Texas will more go the route of ND than Nebraska if anything.

 

[upstater]

Yes, in hindsight, that Edsall re-hire and his low salary foreshadowed how we ended up here today.

They couldn't sustain football outside the BE, but they'll also need to explain why Tempe could. That's the big disconnect here. Temple football used to be a big joke on this board. One can only conclude that Temple's administration is much better than UConn's. What other explanations do people have for Temple doing what UConn couldn't do?

Also, it is pretty evident that people around the country don't realize that UConn actually competed in the old BE and had much better football than this. It once had 24 players in the NFL, which far surpassed most of the P5. I'm sure people like Joe Moorehead knew all about the school's ceiling, its problems, the difficulties of recruiting and being paid, but these coaches also knew about the games they won and the players they developed. So, sure Iowa St, Baylor, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, Indiana, Virginia, South Carolina, fans may look down and laugh at what UConn football has become, but they all took losses to UConn and they got as good as they gave.

 

[upstater]

Except when you read the finer print and see how Texas A & M jumped in front. Texas and OU are cash cows and always will be. This idea that they will jump is not necessarily true at all. In fact, you can easily argue that Texas will more go the route of ND than Nebraska if anything.

I'm talking about the TV money. Oklahoma makes half of what its former rival makes. It's appalling for them, and it's only going to get worse.

 

[browndog319]

Serious question, how is it a bold, strong move?

I think that's the crux of the divide between the fanbase right now. How are we better for this move?

Here’s why it’s a great move:
My daughter (14) got home from a graduation party last night. I told her we were going back to the Big East.
She went crazy.
She was at the 5 OT game against Louisville when she was 9. She went crazy for Kemba. She wants to go to UConn and I’ve tried to keep her into hoops but it’s been tough. We haven’t had the energy or excitement of games like those.
That’s how I knew it was right. We need that energy back. It will fuel recruiting for students and athletes alike. It will make the Big East Tourney the legend it was again...
If we build it, they will come.

 

[billybud]

The fact you don’t get why saying “UConn could become Villanova” is condescending is further proof we need a stronger ban policy around here.

No...I really don't get it.

Villanova is a very good basketball program with two very recent NC's.

UConn has 4 NC's in their past but has been sliding of late.

UConn, in the BE could, like Nova, win NC's....and maybe faster than in the AAC.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

No...I really don't get it.

Villanova is a very good basketball program with two very recent NC's.

UConn has 4 NC's in their past but has been sliding of late.

UConn, in the BE could, like Nova, win NC's....and maybe faster than in the AAC.

Don’t worry about it. Some day you’ll be as good as Florida.

 

[nomar]

No...I really don't get it.

Villanova is a very good basketball program with two very recent NC's.

UConn has 4 NC's in their past but has been sliding of late.

UConn, in the BE could, like Nova, win NC's....and maybe faster than in the AAC.

If Villanova keeps it up, they could be the next UConn.

 

[billybud]

If Villanova keeps it up, they could be the next UConn.

Sure....but, at some point, recency plays in....UConn needs to hold serve. And I think that they might in the BE

 

[Alum86]

UConn can become a Villanova...

They can not become a Virginia or Duke.

Or Michigan State or other all sports program.

Basketball may prosper in the BE...and fans will squint and, through misty eyes, see Marquette, St. Johns, Seton Hall, et al as the beloved old home place.

There is something to be said for being a Villanova....but still a different world from Duke or Michigan State.

And, someday, it may be Memphis, UCF, or Houston moving into that different world.

Kansas?

 

[billybud]

Don’t worry about it. Some day you’ll be as good as Florida.

LOL...yeah...those lizards.

Been a good run of late. 5-1 in last six vs the Gators...as many football NC's and FSU did not have a team when I was born.

But, oh ,how I do love those rascals.....friends come and go, but enemies are forever. And are a treasure. I'd hate to lose them as a rival.

 

[billybud]

Kansas?

Yeah...maybe a Kansas without the paycheck.

But...maybe you don't want to be exactly Kansas with one NC in the last 30 years..

 

[djct1999]

I'm talking about the TV money. Oklahoma makes half of what its former rival makes. It's appalling for them, and it's only going to get worse.

Its the net result that matters. Not how you get there.

 

[djct1999]

They couldn't sustain football outside the BE, but they'll also need to explain why Tempe could. That's the big disconnect here. Temple football used to be a big joke on this board. One can only conclude that Temple's administration is much better than UConn's. What other explanations do people have for Temple doing what UConn couldn't do?

Also, it is pretty evident that people around the country don't realize that UConn actually competed in the old BE and had much better football than this. It once had 24 players in the NFL, which far surpassed most of the P5. I'm sure people like Joe Moorehead knew all about the school's ceiling, its problems, the difficulties of recruiting and being paid, but these coaches also knew about the games they won and the players they developed. So, sure Iowa St, Baylor, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, Indiana, Virginia, South Carolina, fans may look down and laugh at what UConn football has become, but they all took losses to UConn and they got as good as they gave.

Realignment affected UConn's recruiting base far more than any other school. Simply put, by moving to the AAC, we stopped getting kids we were for a short time able to beat BC, Syracuse, and Pitt for. The move had far less impact to Temple's base. If anything, for Temple, it was a step forward. Sure, the administration is to blame for getting us into this mess. What happened on the field afterwards, I blame the AAC and UConn's affiliation with it. We were an outlier from the start and from the beginning had the most to lose, And we lost. But this is a marathon not a sprint, and although we may have flamed out of the race first, in the end, schools like Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Temple, and all of the AAC will most likely be standing either right beside us or behind.

 

[upstater]

Realignment affected UConn's recruiting base far more than any other school. Simply put, by moving to the AAC, we stopped getting kids we were for a short time able to beat BC, Syracuse, and Pitt for. The move had far less impact to Temple's base. If anything, for Temple, it was a step forward. Sure, the administration is to blame for getting us into this mess. What happened on the field afterwards, I blame the AAC and UConn's affiliation with it. We were an outlier from the start and from the beginning had the most to lose, And we lost. But this is a marathon not a sprint, and although we may have flamed out of the race first, in the end, schools like Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Temple, and all of the AAC will most likely be standing either right beside us or behind.

UConn was always at the bottom of recruiting in the BE. I'm also not sure how something that hurt UConn recruiting helped Temple recruiting, since Temple was already back in the BE prior to the AAC.

 

[upstater]

Its the net result that matters. Not how you get there.

That's not how they look at it. The net result is the result of the school's brand. And the administrators look at that bigger pot of money and say, "With our brand, we have to make at least what our lesser neighbors are making!"

The net result actually reinforces my point since it gives the bigwigs at Oklahoma an even bigger sense of entitlement.

This isn't even me say it. Oklahoma's principals are notorious for grousing over their B12 situation. An open secret.

 

[CL82]

I think it sends a different message. That for once we're not going to be tied to the whipping post. It's a bold, strong move. Whether it works out is a different question.

Mmm, not sure it says that at all. I'd guess it's an admission that we are a big time (P5, Football, Major, etc.) school. Most people will respond positively, even sympathetically to that.

 

[upstater]

Sure....but, at some point, recency plays in....UConn needs to hold serve. And I think that they might in the BE

Recency??

Your attention span is really 4 years?

I mean, when is the last time FSU won a national championship in basketball?

You think UConn needs to hold serve with Villanova?

You think it's that easy to win a national championship?

If it's so easy, then why hasn't FSU done it?

 

[BlueandOG]

I am happy to also share with the Women's team. Just not a football program that nearly led us to destruction.

UConn Basketball forever, UConn Football never.

Booooo!

 

[JB75]

I can’t believe some people here are upset about this move. This is great news. The only negative is I wish this happened a few months ago when we were going after previous and kofi. Might of changed things. Lol. Still can’t believe kofi went to Illinois. Lolololololol

 

[CL82]

Here’s why it’s a great move:
My daughter (14) got home from a graduation party last night. I told her we were going back to the Big East.
She went crazy.
She was at the 5 OT game against Louisville when she was 9. She went crazy for Kemba. She wants to go to UConn and I’ve tried to keep her into hoops but it’s been tough. We haven’t had the energy or excitement of games like those.
That’s how I knew it was right. We need that energy back. It will fuel recruiting for students and athletes alike. It will make the Big East Tourney the legend it was again...
If we build it, they will come.

Well if it passes the 14 year old girl test, I'm all in.

 

[djct1999]

UConn was always at the bottom of recruiting in the BE. I'm also not sure how something that hurt UConn recruiting helped Temple recruiting, since Temple was already back in the BE prior to the AAC.

You aren't getting it because, true to form, you are choosing not to get it. Look at Temple's roster. The majority of it is from Greater Philadelphia, NJ, and MD. That never changed. They still recruit the same kids they always did. UConn tried recruiting the same kids and lost them to other schools with the new narrative. Thus, the AAC hurt UConn more than it did Temple.