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I thought everyone might like to see what Nate Carter apparently means to Michigan State this year. Looks like
without him they're nothing............... at least on the ground. If the page doesn't align properly and the players' names
aren't shown next to the stats, he's the first back listed and Berger is the second back (averaged 4.6 yds per carry last year
for over 600 yards).

So, here's the perfect example of how we can be a pipeline to a P4 school.............but not good enough in their opinions to
be a member of a P4 conference. BS in spades.

Michigan State

Michigan State Rushing

CARYDSAVGTDLONG
181136.3131
8243.0112
300.007
1-1-1.000
1-9-9.000
311274.1231
 
I truly don’t get your point. It’s shocking to you that a G-5 team has a player that can start at a much higher level? In a sport with rosters of 85 scholarship players and 20 or more walk ons?

There are many G-5 players who can make big contributions at a P-5 level. Just like every year there are good G-5 teams that will clearly be better than the worst P-5 teams. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t overall significant talent gaps between the levels.
 
I truly don’t get your point. It’s shocking to you that a G-5 team has a player that can start at a much higher level? In a sport with rosters of 85 scholarship players and 20 or more walk ons?

There are many G-5 players who can make big contributions at a P-5 level. Just like every year there are good G-5 teams that will clearly be better than the worst P-5 teams. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t overall significant talent gaps between the levels.
I took the point is being one of our guys is thriving at a storied program. Just a statement of appreciation even after he moved on.
 
The 7th best brand in the Big Ten, soon to be 10th best, means storied?
 
I took the point is being one of our guys is thriving at a storied program. Just a statement of appreciation even after he moved on.
There’s no place for positivity here.
 
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The 7th best brand in the Big Ten, soon to be 10th best, means storied?
No, 11 national titles, playing football for well over 100 years and playing before packed crowds in hundred thousand seat stadium means storied.
 
They played a crappy G5 team and today will be Richmond, an FCS team who lost to Morgan St. We will see how good he is or not after Washington, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State.
 
No, 11 national titles, playing football for well over 100 years and playing before packed crowds in hundred thousand seat stadium means storied.
He doesn't play for Michigan. He plays for Michigan State. It's a step up from UConn, which has also been playing FB for over 100 years. You took it too far and faceplanted, It happens.
 
That's impressive. If he can put up decent numbers against Wisconsin and Michigan then I think he has a good chance to get drafted. Hope he sees that success.
 
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MSU was lost last year when Walker went pro. Carter is an upgrade from Berger for sure. Good for him!
 
MSU was lost last year when Walker went pro. Carter is an upgrade from Berger for sure. Good for him!
Agreed -- no sense wishing a player ill if he moves on. We've benefitted from transfers, and it goes both ways.
 
I took the point is being one of our guys is thriving at a storied program. Just a statement of appreciation even after he moved on.
Maybe it was this part of the post…

“So, here's the perfect example of how we can be a pipeline to a P4 school.............but not good enough in their opinions to be a member of a P4 conference. BS in spades.’
 
Carter was in shape and ripped - looked more athletic, especially laterally. Wonder what sort of effect it will have on the team when his coach gets…? Sounds like a pretty significant sexual harassment claim being decided early October in an off week. He’d have to fired, if true.
 
I thought everyone might like to see what Nate Carter apparently means to Michigan State this year. Looks like
without him they're nothing............... at least on the ground. If the page doesn't align properly and the players' names
aren't shown next to the stats, he's the first back listed and Berger is the second back (averaged 4.6 yds per carry last year
for over 600 yards).

So, here's the perfect example of how we can be a pipeline to a P4 school.............but not good enough in their opinions to
be a member of a P4 conference. BS in spades.

Michigan State

Michigan State Rushing

CARYDSAVGTDLONG
181136.3131
8243.0112
300.007
1-1-1.000
1-9-9.000
311274.1231
Dead to me. Just stop with this praise of quitters.
 
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Good read:



-> “At the end of the day, if it’s not God's plan, you have to trust in him to know that whatever plan he has for you is good. It’s probably a better plan than what you think it is.” That wound up being UConn — where Nathan and his father both agree he’d probably still be if he hadn’t gotten hurt last year playing at Michigan. “If I didn’t have the injury, it would be a different story,” Nathan said.

The injury, which required surgery, gave Nathan time to think, to reassess his goals and dreams. Still, he had no intention of leaving UConn. He was content there. He had lots of relationships he valued. Besides, the transfer portal made him uneasy.

But while Nathan was sidelined, his father and high school coach — who’d had two sons play college football, one of them reaching the NFL — put out some feelers to gauge interest in Nathan from Power 5 schools. Nathan had gotten off to a strong start at UConn. And his dad and former coach knew his dream had been for something bigger. They also didn’t want to push him.

“He was like ‘Dad, the portal messes up a lot of guys,’ ” Darryl said. “He said, ‘They'll go into the portal and then they're falling on their faces and, man, that’s scary. I’ve got a good thing here.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, I agree. I’m not going to tell you who, what or where, because that would be inappropriate. I’m not going to try to pry you away. I want you to play where you want to play. But our team, we’ve done our work. You’ll have opportunities.’ ”

About a month later, Nathan told his father, “I want to play in the Power 5. I know I can do it.” <-
 
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I truly don’t get your point. It’s shocking to you that a G-5 team has a player that can start at a much higher level? In a sport with rosters of 85 scholarship players and 20 or more walk ons?

There are many G-5 players who can make big contributions at a P-5 level. Just like every year there are good G-5 teams that will clearly be better than the worst P-5 teams. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t overall significant talent gaps between the levels.
My first point recognized how good Carter was in MSU's opener and how it looks as if MSU doesn't have much of a running game this year without him.

The second point was more complex and I gave the shortened version that it seems that no matter what we have, who we put on the field, how much we've improved since JM took over in football for example, how much excitement has returned (based on the NC State game's attendance), the P4's will take an SMU or Cal over UConn.

The rest of my comments are rhetorical regarding the leagues' choices of schools to add to their conferences. Specifically the additions of Cal and SMU to the ACC and the Arizona schools to the Big 12.

Cal and SMU? Because of what? Their success in football? Major bowl wins? NC's? Attendance? Success in the other major sports like men's and women's basketball, hockey and baseball?
Men's crew for Cal, but what else for Cal and what in any sport for SMU?

How about the Big 12's new additions? Arizona and Arizona State bring what? The third best coach in the Hurley family? Championships? And, a population made up of a large percentage of transplants from other regions, who likely have little to no interest in the Arizona schools or the Big 12, doesn't seem to offer much potential for adding the number of viewers a school like UConn will bring considering our dominance in New England and the NY Metro area in sports like basketball, baseball and hockey (on its current trajectory) and even football (based on BCU's recent trajectory). There's also a history of success nationally in men's and women's soccer and field hockey.

The most visible sports seem to be football, men's and women's basketball, hockey and baseball and we've shown we can win championships in two of them and improved dramatically in hockey and, to some degree, in football while baseball is always competitive in spite of being a northern school in a weak league and would be a stronger program in a league with better competition.

We may not excel at this point in football, but with JM we've shown we've made the commitment to improve and can become nationally competitive in football like we did in basketball after we moved to the Big East, hired the right coach, and built attractive facilities and support programs. That's already done for football. All that's missing is the competitive league.

Most importantly, we've proven in two leagues, without the cache' of a P5 label, that we can bring basketball championships to leagues like the B1G (maybe more accurately the B2G) that has one men's championship since 1989.........34 years with one championship while UConn has won five in the last 24 years. I didn't mention the women but the same has held true there to a larger degree. Since the B1G isn't exactly lighting it up with football championships, why aren't they beating down the door to add championships in the second most important college sports? We can help them say, "we may not win championships in football, but we're damn good in a few others".

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but those were the bulk of the thoughts that drove my comments.
 

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