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If ND gets the same treatment as the Puke men are getting tonight, UConn CAN lose.
I don't think so because UConn's superiority over Notre Dame is appreciably more than Wisconsin's superiority over Duke. Even if the refereeing was as bad as you say, there's only so much these referees can do. If it was THAT flagrantly bad, there would be such an uproar that the NCAA would permanently bar those refs from ever officiating another game of any kind.
 
I don't think so because UConn's superiority over Notre Dame is appreciably more than Wisconsin's superiority over Duke. Even if the refereeing was as bad as you say, there's only so much these referees can do. If it was THAT flagrantly bad, there would be such an uproar that the NCAA would permanently bar those refs from ever officiating another game of any kind.

Not if they are the ones holding the strings.
 
There is absolutely no one that would want to watch a Notre Dame/UConn game with me because I am so over the top, and it isn't fun. The same would apply if the Huskies were playing Tennessee or any bona fide foe. I'm not proud of it but I get pretty upset over bad calls, idiotic remarks from the announcers, poor decisions that a Huskie might play, etc. etc. I know myself and watch the game by myself so as not to offend anyone or get institutionalized. Other than these games, I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.
We should watch a game together!
 
Consider this. The NCAA has gotten a lot of bad press recently from the way they handled Penn State to the fiasco at Syracuse to the total dumpster fire at UNC. They need their squeaky clean darlings to win in order to distract everyone. I fear ND wins, no matter how bad the refs need to be. People are saying Wisconsin played poorly down the stretch. Do they really think the way the game was being called had nothing to do with it? They are kids and they are human. Trust me, our girls will get just as frustrated and rattled if this happens to them tomorrow.

We must be DOOMED then..DOOMED I tell you!!
 
There is absolutely no one that would want to watch a Notre Dame/UConn game with me because I am so over the top, and it isn't fun. The same would apply if the Huskies were playing Tennessee or any bona fide foe. I'm not proud of it but I get pretty upset over bad calls, idiotic remarks from the announcers, poor decisions that a Huskie might play, etc. etc. I know myself and watch the game by myself so as not to offend anyone or get institutionalized. Other than these games, I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.
I can relate to your situation. My wife and the dog both leave the room when I watch.
 
If the game was to play out according to the teams' seasonal averages, UConn will pick up 11 to 12 fouls and ND 14 to 15, as neither team is known for fouling much. Sure, part of those stats are built on lesser opponents that don't get teams in the position to foul, and in a hard-fought NC, the numbers might go up a bit, but it still seems unlikely that the refs would suddenly start blowing a whistle on every play and sending the teams to the bench. The NCAA wants a showcase event, not a controversial stinker, and the refs will be seeking a balance. Any huge departure from normal will look bad.

Both teams were assessed 18 fouls apiece back in November in very different circumstances, but in last year's NC the foul calls were the same as what I would expect for tonight -- 12 against UConn and 14 against ND. And it's possible that a few of the calls against ND were late game intentionals even down by 20, but it really just looked like ND was playing hard to the end on the last two fouls.
 
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If the game was to play out according to the teams' seasonal averages, UConn will pick up 11 to 12 fouls and ND 14 to 15, as neither team is known for fouling much. Sure, part of those stats are built on lesser opponents that don't get teams in the position to foul, and in a hard-fought NC, the numbers might go up a bit, but it still seems unlikely that the refs would suddenly start blowing a whistle on every play and sending the teams to the bench. The NCAA wants a showcase event, not a controversial stinker, and the refs will be seeking a balance. Any huge departure from normal will look bad.

Both teams were assessed 18 fouls apiece back in November in very different circumstances, but in last year's NC the foul calls were the same as what I would expect for tonight -- 12 against UConn and 14 against ND. And it's possible that a few of the calls against ND were late game intentionals even down by 20, but it really just looked like ND was playing hard to the end on the last two fouls.

Great analysis! Let's hope you're on point here. I do agree that this is a marquee event for the sport so why ruin it with phantom fouls and interrupt the flow of the game.
 
I think that Loyd will get around 20, more or less, but take about 17 shots to do it. And we wom bu 20 or so. And I will be watching, wearing my lucky mojo UConn cap and shirt.

"Wom BU Wom BU" A whole new UConn cheer is born! I love it!!
 
Both teams have improved and I believe UConn has improved more then ND. With that said UConn had a 28 pt turn around at ND to win by 18. How does ND overcome that? It would have to be a combo or defense, ND shooting the ball better and UConn not shooting the ball great. UConns shooting percentage is up a lot in the NCAAs as is their scoring. But this is ND and I see UConn scoring 80+ and ND scoring in the 60's. I also see Turner in foul trouble in the first half and Mabry locked up on defense. Loyd will not go for 30 this time around and if she does her shooting percentage will be low. Mojeff will control the game and UConns quickness will be too much for ND.

UConn 86 ND 63
 
There is absolutely no one that would want to watch a Notre Dame/UConn game with me because I am so over the top, and it isn't fun. The same would apply if the Huskies were playing Tennessee or any bona fide foe. I'm not proud of it but I get pretty upset over bad calls, idiotic remarks from the announcers, poor decisions that a Huskie might play, etc. etc. I know myself and watch the game by myself so as not to offend anyone or get institutionalized. Other than these games, I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.
I'd love to watch the game with you!
 
This is a very different team from last year - not saying better or worse, just very different. But I think the biggest difference this year in WCBB is ND. Last year they were truly dominant arriving at the NC game undefeated and rarely tested - they had a 4 point win against MD and a 7 point win against Virginia both in January, but otherwise were manhandling teams in Uconn fashion. This year has been much more of a struggle - 8 games in single digit or loss - and there were two losses - one can be excused because they didn't play Uconn last year, but they are 'getting by' in a way that they didn't have to last year. In addition to the single digit games there have also been more of those 10-15 point struggles instead of the 20+ point breezes.

Uconn has actually gone in the opposite direction - if anything they have had few challenges and an easier year - part of that is schedule which has definitely not had as many quality teams, but somehow a healthy Kaleena, a returned Morgan, an even better Moriah and Stewart, and a very surprising freshman Kia have more than made up for the loss of Stef and Bria. And the bench is no longer just Kiah as both Gabby and Saniya have stepped up to provide additional options as needs arise.

So I am quietly confident that a healthy ND this year will actually pose less of a challenge than last year's ND minus their center. Doesn't mean that I will not be feeling nauseous on Tuesday!!:eek:
Beware the Ides of Mar... wait, it's April. Nevermind.
 
What I find so interesting is that a lot of people (not here) are forgetting that in that first match-up MoJett did not score AND she fouled out. That is unlikely to happen tonight. So, put her back in the playmaking equation - even w/BT in ND's line-up and I like our chances.
 
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What a coward! ;)

Have some intestinal fortitude and watch it live. Who wants to watch a game when you already know the outcome? It's only a game. Wait a minute, did I write that? LOL

You're right, it's life or death, especially any time Notre Lame is involved.
Not the cowardness, it's the mojo. Don't want to mess with that. :cool:
 
What I find so interesting is that a lot of people (not here) are forgetting that in that first match-up MoJett did not score AND she fouled out. That is unlikely to happen tonight. So, put her back in the playmaking equation - even w/BT in ND's line-up and I like our chances.

True, but it is also unlikely that Tuck will go for 25 again either. The 10 or so she doesn't get will go to Stewart or Jefferson or somebody else, so a wash.

On the Irish side, Turner's replacement back in December was Markisha Wright, a senior who is right now ND's 4th front court player (after Turner, Reimer and freshman Katherine Westbeld. Wright scored 1 point and took 1 shot in December. Turner will obliterate that.

For the Irish to be close, they will need average performances from Loyd and Turner (20 and 14 points respectively) plus a wild card performance from an unexpected source (ala Grayson Allen for Duke last night). Lindsey Allen put up 28 and 23 and against Stanford and Baylor at the regional. Mabrey scored 17-18 in the first half against Baylor. Reimer has a few 20 point performances this season. Not saying that will happen, just that for the game to be close it has to, and even that assumes no Huskies have monster games, just normal.

There was another thread about Muffet choose your poison, and that is so true. The ND men beat Duke twice by taking away the 3, letting Okafor score down low and trying to match that at the other end. Does McGraw take a page from that book and try that? It's a dangerous strategy, but so is hoping the Huskies have an off night from outside. Not an appetizing choice.

This ND alum says UConn by 15.
 
ND doesn't need to rely on Loyd to score when they also have Allen who has play very well lately and is one of the top guards in the country. I just hope UConn comes out like they did in last year's game when it was 8-8 early, then 22-8 a few minutes later. I'm not looking forward to a game where they let ND hang around.
 
If both teams stay healthy throughout the game UCONN determines their own fate! NOTHING ND can do will effect the outcome! They are just participants with not enough ammo to pull a win out!
There's only so many limited places ND can score, while UCONN can draw points from, Stewie, potentially 22+; KML, potentially 15; Tuck, potentially 22+; MoJeff, potentially 12; Nurse, potentially 6; Chong, potentially 3; Stokes, potentially 4 & Williams, potentially 4! Which adds up to 88 potential points for UCONN, ND cannot cover all the UCONN threats nor can they score 90 points vs UCONN's smothering defense! Some of UCONN players may score more or less, but the likely-hood of UCONN scoring 88 to 90 vs ND defense is higher than ND scoring 88 to 90 vs UCONN's defense! Also UCONN will dominate the offensive & defensive boards limiting ND to one shot! UCONN also will block 6 to 8 shots, limiting ND baskets!
 
It's been fun but again, out for a while. Same deal as last year. If ND somehow wins, I won't be here to gloat and if UConn wins (as I think they will), it's your party.

TTFN, it's been a heck of a year for ND hoops.
 
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If both teams stay healthy throughout the game UCONN determines their own fate! NOTHING ND can do will effect the outcome! They are just participants with not enough ammo to pull a win out!
There's only so many limited places ND can score, while UCONN can draw points from, Stewie, potentially 22+; KML, potentially 15; Tuck, potentially 22+; MoJeff, potentially 12; Nurse, potentially 6; Chong, potentially 3; Stokes, potentially 4 & Williams, potentially 4! Which adds up to 88 potential points for UCONN, ND cannot cover all the UCONN threats nor can they score 90 points vs UCONN's smothering defense! Some of UCONN players may score more or less, but the likely-hood of UCONN scoring 88 to 90 vs ND defense is higher than ND scoring 88 to 90 vs UCONN's defense! Also UCONN will dominate the offensive & defensive boards limiting ND to one shot! UCONN also will block 6 to 8 shots, limiting ND baskets!

RSHERM: Very keen as usual. And reassuring - I'm needing some of that as the clock ticks down.
 
Both teams have improved and I believe UConn has improved more then ND. With that said UConn had a 28 pt turn around at ND to win by 18. How does ND overcome that? It would have to be a combo or defense, ND shooting the ball better and UConn not shooting the ball great. UConns shooting percentage is up a lot in the NCAAs as is their scoring. But this is ND and I see UConn scoring 80+ and ND scoring in the 60's. I also see Turner in foul trouble in the first half and Mabry locked up on defense. Loyd will not go for 30 this time around and if she does her shooting percentage will be low. Mojeff will control the game and UConns quickness will be too much for ND.

UConn 86 ND 63
Right on Tony.
 
I didn't realize that there are a number of folks who do as I do and record
the game for later viewing (perhaps with a quick peek toward the end).

It's comforting to know that I'm not the only wuss on the Boneyard!

I did watch the Stanford game from start to finish because it never
occurred to me that we might lose that game. Big mistake.
Never again.
 
Who's ready for a Bre-peat?
We got Stewie; They don't.
UCONN 89 - ND 77
 
Well gang, UCONN can and did win in a battle! My hats off to a rugged and formidable ND squad! They gave the Huskies all they could handle!
The two teams know each other so well that they could call each others offensive sets!
Props go to Brianna Turner for her gutsy 2nd 1/2! But as I stated earlier she was the only big that would show up! Reimer and the other Irish big girls faded into the wood and offered NO help!
I am so disappointed that the powers that be took the easy way out and awarded Stewie the MOP! I give her credit for playing her heart out and getting 15 RB's along with her 8 points! But it was evident the leg wouldn't allow her the freedom to create on offense! IMHO MoJeff should have gotten the MOP or maybe KML for her huge 7 straight points when ND closed the gap late! And Stewie showed her class when she said "Moriah Jefferson should have gotten the MOP!"
MoJeff really took her teammates on her back in the 2nd 1/2 both on offense with 3 huge 3's and heroic drives to the hoop, and especially on defense as she just shut down AA Jewell Loyd, as a total non-factor! And MoJeff at 5'5" (she's not 5'7") gave away 5" to Loyd! Having 5 assists and 4 steals along with her 15 points!
Even though Morgan Tuck had a rough offensive game overall, her 7 assists were really big!
Kia Nurse had some big moments also with the 3 and drives leading to 9 points late!
KML, MoJeff, and Morgan played 40 minutes and Stewie only missed 1 minute getting her ankle retaped! I think all of us thought Stewie did a knee as she first went down! We all breathed a sigh of relief that it was ONLY an ankle, HaHa!
3 in a row/ 10 total Championships, what a truely amazing program we have with the UCONN WBB! And think how bright the future is with the recruits we've got coming and the others that now will like to get on board!
 
What a gutsy performance.... not the prettiest game in the world...but a combative struggle as you would expect from these 2.....

and looking at next year..... I can see these same 2 teams in the same championship game..... SC will be formidable, and Baylor will be good, if their young people develop..... Tennessee's fortunes will be 100% dependent on the quality of their coaching ... and not DD or Mercedes.... Maryland will have as good a chance as anyone to make it back to FF.....

but ND and UC are the cream of the crop..... and secondarily, much of the reason is coaching! The 2 best.....
 
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I didn't realize that there are a number of folks who do as I do and record
the game for later viewing (perhaps with a quick peek toward the end).

It's comforting to know that I'm not the only wuss on the Boneyard!

I did watch the Stanford game from start to finish because it never
occurred to me that we might lose that game.
Big mistake.
Never again.
Exactly. Same thing happened to me. I should have known better. I blame Tony for giving me too much confidence. :cool:
 
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