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UCONNFAN179 said:
Barring injury, there's little doubt he will go first round so I always assumed he's gone after this year... even though a year to get stronger would benefit him greatly. No real need to debate if he's coming back. He's very likely not. But the question was, will he be a lottery pick?

To be clear, I love having him on our team and I'm sure he'll represent UConn admirably in the league for years to come! It'll be a lot of fun watching him play and continue to develop this season. I do think it's fair to question though, how much of his potential he will realize here. He won't get much stronger this year so he'll likely either become a mediocre defender at best this year or he'll remain a bit of a liability on that end. His offense so far shows flashes of him being a future star, but objectively, his play and his numbers thus far have been pretty average for a starter...not surprising for a freshman who's physically slight of build.

With 1/3 of the season already gone, he's still a bit lost and still figuring things out at this level. That's why I thought it was a fair question to ask if going forward, if people think it's worth filling a starters role and using high amounts of NIL for "physically undersized" 1 and dones like him vs getting more physically ready, established commodities via the portal? Objectively, would our team have been slightly better this year with another upperclassmen in his role? It's an interesting debate.
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The answer is he’s the straw that stirs the drink. He can shoot and create his shot and makes a HUGE difference in us beating a team like Kansas in their own arena. If he continues to progress and stays healthy we have a much better chance of making some noise in the Tournament.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Time will tell. Barring injury, I see basically no scenario in which Mullins falls past 20 so to me, the calculus would be very different for him than Clingan after Clingan’s freshman season.
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Don’t think Mullins falls past 20 either. Which may have been the range Clingan could’ve rose to if he came out.

Don’t think if Mullins is in that 16-20 range it’s a good idea to come out for half the salary, to go to a team that probably isn’t as invested in him, and wouldn’t be as patient with his development (because they’ll be a playoff team).

Last time saying this. It’s such a better idea to come back and become a top 5 top 3 pick and be looked at as a franchise player if the opportunity is there. Usually guys making the decision to leave or come back aren’t being looked at as potential top 5 picks the next year and lock for the top 10.

Don’t think another year of Hawkins or Liam makes them a top 5 pick so it made sense for them to go. Liam had to avoid this draft at all costs.

But Mullins has a legit chance to be looked at as a franchise player if he doesn’t rush it.
 
It seems kind of crazy to have this argument now. The kid just came back from injury, has only played in a handful of games and is just barely learning the system. He is far from a finished product right now but in another month or so that may change a lot. He also will be getting advice and feedback from people WAY more in the know than any of us, like his coach, his agent and NBA execs and even his family.
 
Mullins answers. 10 lbs of muscle and more game experience.
 
Don't look now guys but the last mock draft I saw
had Reibe at 37.
 
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How is this thread different from transfer speculation threads. Some posters dream about him staying another year (like Santa) and many posters are just stomping on our Santa Claus dream. Sure its unrealistic but it is a coping mechanism of sorts.

Just saying its Dec. and we're talking about him leaving. Dream killers.

I'd rather have hope than dead dreams. Please let some of us dream and wake us up in March, we're not new to this.
 
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Steph avg 11.1, 4th pick…. So not sure numbers matter here. NBA is all about fit and can I mold this or that player into what WE want . Plus they don’t even give Mullins the ball or run plays for him and still avg 9.5.
 
What does next year’s draft class look like compared to this year? This year is obviously one of the better years talent wise. Mullins is a definitely a lottery level talent, but breaking the top 5 is pretty unlikely with the other freshman stars right now. Maybe a pick around 10ish if he plays well? On top of the difference in guaranteed money, the “deadline” to prove yourself sticking in the NBA is also pushed back a year. That’s something big to consider. Don’t want to waste a year developing. It’s not fully like in the MLB, where players want to reach free agency as fast possible.

Obviously I want Mullins to stay for as long as possible, but am always for the kids to pursue their NBA dream. Like I couldn’t imagine Castle playing another year of college ball, it just wouldn’t be right. Hurley has a pretty good track record of helping his players to decide when to make the jump, so trust fully Mullins will make the right decision in the end.
 
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Kids slowly getting comfortable so much more to learn. The Big East will make him tougher because having watched a few games it seems the ref pattern is mostly let them play. Trying to get open even with solid screens is hard work.

Let’s see how it plays out next couple months, we may see significant growth which will be a good thing no matter.
 
FlippinCrazy! said:
What does next year’s draft class look like compared to this year? This year is obviously one of the better years talent wise. Mullins is a definitely a lottery level talent, but breaking the top 5 is pretty unlikely with the other freshman stars right now. Maybe a pick around 10ish if he plays well? On top of the difference in guaranteed money, the “deadline” to prove yourself sticking in the NBA is also pushed back a year. That’s something big to consider. Don’t want to waste a year developing. It’s not fully like in the MLB, where players want to reach free agency as fast possible.

Obviously I want Mullins to stay for as long as possible, but am always for the kids to pursue their NBA dream. Like I couldn’t imagine Castle playing another year of college ball, it just wouldn’t be right. Hurley has a pretty good track record of helping his players to decide when to make the jump, so trust fully Mullins will make the right decision in the end.
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Next years draft class is really weak. We are going from a loaded class historically to a very weak class, yet no one here registers that part. It's a significant variable. If you can go top 5 versus potentially getting pushed back into the 20's, there is reason to stick. A second contract is not a guarantee.
 
RuffRuff said:
I'm saying there is a 5% chance. It could be really valid depending on how it falls. If his stock drops into the 20's, whereas he has the opportunity to be a top 5 pick next year, plenty of reasons to come back.
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You think the people here who are saying he’s gone aren’t fully registering the fact there’s only a 95% chance he’s gone?
 
BGesus4 said:
You think the people here who are saying he’s gone aren’t fully registering the fact there’s only a 95% chance he’s gone?
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No idea - I'm not sure the large majority of posters here register a thought without quickly jumping on a topic in defense of all things UConn being the best.

If he stays flat to what we've seen, and other players play up (Kingston Flemming for instance already), and he projects into the 20's (can happen), then there is plenty of reason to return for a really bad draft.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Next years draft class is really weak. We are going from a loaded class historically to a very weak class, yet no one here registers that part. It's a significant variable. If you can go top 5 versus potentially getting pushed back into the 20's, there is reason to stick. A second contract is not a guarantee.
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For what it’s worth, the guard position isn’t as loaded this year. Peterson, Mikel Brown and maybe Fleming are probably the three ahead of Mullins right now. And I could definitely see teams valuing Mullins higher than Brown and Fleming if things play out right.
 
He's never faced this level of competition. He'll be fine. You can see the talent. The only way he fails is if he thinks he's good enough now.
 
I haven't read the thread. I think the chances of him going pro would normally be 100%. Based on how deep this draft class is, I think that gives us a little more chance than usual of a return.
 
In terms of talent/potential, I’d say only Castle has a higher ceiling than Mullins of our recent draft picks. McNeeley had some physical limitations, Hawkins is a tad undersized, etc.

Mullins has the athleticism and tools to be a perfect SG in the NBA and that’s why he’s gone.
 
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FlippinCrazy! said:
For what it’s worth, the guard position isn’t as loaded this year. Peterson, Mikel Brown and maybe Fleming are probably the three ahead of Mullins right now. And I could definitely see teams valuing Mullins higher than Brown and Fleming if things play out right.
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He will also be fighting with Cam (currently projected higher), Wagner, and Tounde for a spot.

Acuff and Labaron are also guards who are killing it and in the top 10. Not sure where you’re getting the guards aren’t loaded from.

Most are putting up 50/40/85 seasons with 20PPG. Which is why we keep saying we don’t think people understand how great this draft class is.
 
HW611 said:
He will also be fighting with Cam (currently projected higher), Wagner, and Tounde for a spot.

Acuff and Labaron are also guards who are killing it and in the top 10. Not sure where you’re getting the guards aren’t loaded from.

Most are putting up 50/40/85 seasons with 20PPG. Which is why we keep saying we don’t think people understand how great this draft class is.
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Everyone understands how good the draft class is
 
HW611 said:
He will also be fighting with Cam (currently projected higher), Wagner, and Tounde for a spot.

Acuff and Labaron are also guards who are killing it and in the top 10. Not sure where you’re getting the guards aren’t loaded from.

Most are putting up 50/40/85 seasons with 20PPG. Which is why we keep saying we don’t think people understand how great this draft class is.
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Cam who? Boozer?

If Acuff, Labaron, or Wagler get drafted before Mullins, then that would mean Mullins would have had to have a horrible season. I just don’t see it.
 
FlippinCrazy! said:
Cam who? Boozer?

If Acuff, Labaron, or Wagler get drafted before Mullins, then that would mean Mullins would have had to have a horrible season. I just don’t see it.
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Yeah you don’t know how good these guys are playing.

Labaron is averaging 22 points and 5.6 assists on 55% FG shooting and 42% from 3. He’s also the same age as Mullins.

This is what we mean when we say some of you are clueless to how great these other guys are.

Cameron Carr is a 20 year old averaging 21.7 on 55% FG and 41% from 3. And he’s mocked as 15.

Mullins is not sleepwalking into the lottery based on potential.
 
HW611 said:
Yeah you don’t know how good these guys are playing.

Labaron is averaging 22 points and 5.6 assists on 55% FG shooting and 42% from 3. He’s also the same age as Mullins.

This is what we mean when we say some of you are clueless to how great these other guys are.
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lol ok Mr NBA scout who thinks Boozer’s a guard…
 
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