Mulkey bests Geno

[EasyEd]

Mulkey Fastest to 600


It only took 700 games for Mulkey to get to 600 wins. It took Geno 716. Maybe Geno will try harder

 

[hoopsfan22]

Wow that's pretty good especially since she coaches in one of the P5 conferences.

 

[pacific 44]

Bet Geno can't throw a jacket as far either. He must be slippin' these days.
As far as the p5,it's really the p4 and Baylor.

 

[JordyG]

That's great! Now all she needs to do is win another 9 championships in the next 16 games and she's right there. All joking aside, I like Mulkey and can only congratulate her for this great achievement.

 

[Blueconn]

Holy impossible that-UConn-doesn‘t-own-every-record Batman.

 

[Cuango]

Mulkey Fastest to 600


It only took 700 games for Mulkey to get to 600 wins. It took Geno 716. Maybe Geno will try harder

Tell her to call me when she gets 12 Natties!

 

[Mulder]

 

[FanHam]

Geno started with a way lesser-achieving team than Kim did.

After three seasons at UConn, Auriemma/Dailey had won 43 of 82 games.
After three seasons at Baylor, Mulkey had won 72 of 98 games.s
Kim had a BIG HEAD START!
The difference is 29 games. So, since each of their first three seasons, Kim is 13 games won BEHIND Geno/Chris.

Baylor DID stink up the place in 1999-2000, the year before Kim arrived, going 7-20. But Baylor had winning records in the three preceding seasons.

UConn, on the other hand, had losing records - never winning more than nine games - for the four years prior to Geno's (and Chris's) arrival in 1985-1986. Further, UConn only had ONE winning season ever, 16-14 in 1980-1981, prior to the Geno/Chris era.

Also, Baylor was a prominent feature on the national college sports scene in several sports prior to Kim's first year. And since. That had to help her recruiting efforts, along with the fame she carried from her illustrious playing/coaching career at Louisiana Tech, including one national championship.

UConn, however, wasn't a blip on the national college sports radar screen before Auriemma/Dailey in any sport, both Geno and Chris were national no-names, so they started recruiting from Ground Zero, so to speak.

Neither Baylor nor UConn had ever played in the NCAA Tournament prior to Mulkey's arrival at Baylor or Auriemma's/Dailey's arrival at UConn.

Baylor went 21-9 in Kim's first year and made the NCAA Tournament (first round loss).
UConn had a (the only) losing record at 12-15 in Geno's/Chris's first year and didn't make the NCAA Tournament until their fourth year when UConn went 24-9 in 1988-1989 (first round loss).

I have great respect for Kim Mulkey's coaching and recruiting ability, but the fact that she made it to 600 victories 16 games faster than Geno/Chris is a more a product of the condition of their respective programs at the onset of their tenures than an indication of comparative coaching competence.

 

[CTrefugee]

A big help to be in a state with over 5 times the population of Connecticut. Most building programs start with getting in-state players. For reasons I will not state, I do not like Mulkey, but she is, obviously, a very good coach.

 

[VAUConnFan]

1. Different WCBB atmosphere.
2. Mulkey, at the beginning of her coaching tenure, had huge name recognition as a player and as a coach from a major WCBB power.
3. She is recruiting in much more fertile WBB territory
4. She has done a great job
5. Lastly, as far as this board is concerned:
a. Very little of her success can be attributed to Coach Auriemma.
b. Baylor, post Griner, has continued to be a major WCBB power.

Congratulations!

 

[veryolddog]

Well, isn't it a good thing that she accomplished this. Seems like she has done a very fine job there. I have always said that she wants Baylor to be the program like UConn that has the most National Championships. Records are made and records are broken.

 

[CL82]

Congratulations to Mulkey. She is one of the best in the game.

 

[oldude]

Congratulations to Kim who continues to do a great job in Waco, TX. But you’re not really comparing apples to apples when you compare how Kim and Geno got to 600 wins respectively.

Certainly, the AAC schedule is nothing to crow about, but in all those seasons in the OBE, UConn was facing much tougher competition than Baylor in the Big 12. Even this year, the Big 12 is more like the Big 1 plus the 11 little sisters. The Big 12 is the sole P5 conference with just 1 team in the top 25, same as the AAC.

Ad in the fact that UConn always plays a really tough OOC schedule, while Baylor typically lines up more cupcakes than the school bake sale. Just this season Baylor has statement wins over the likes of: Grambling St, Houston Baptist, Lamar & Morehead St, to name a few.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Congratulations to her. She's a excellent recruiter and a fine coach. She's a worthy competitor to our Coach Geno.

 

[Topsail]

congrats to Kim , I too like her. Now all she needs to do is go 483-42 to tie Geno.....

 

[JonathanXIV]

Congratulations to Kim who continues to do a great job in Waco, TX. But you’re not really comparing apples to apples when you compare how Kim and Geno got to 600 wins respectively.

Certainly, the AAC schedule is nothing to crow about, but in all those seasons in the OBE, UConn was facing much tougher competition than Baylor in the Big 12. Even this year, the Big 12 is more like the Big 1 plus the 11 little sisters. The Big 12 is the sole P5 conference with just 1 team in the top 25, same as the AAC.

Ad in the fact that UConn always plays a really tough OOC schedule, while Baylor typically lines up more cupcakes than the school bake sale. Just this season Baylor has statement wins over the likes of: Grambling St, Houston Baptist, Lamar & Morehead St, to name a few.

Good point. Good coach, but perhaps we should prorate the wins. For example, wins against teams ranked 300+ only count as half a win.

 

[chrissaran]

How many championships did Baylor win with Brittney Griner and Kalani Brown? They won 1 each. That's underachieving. All-time the series is 4-4.

 

[Zanzman]

Why can’t we just say congratulations and and leave it that no need to make excuses why she was quicker than Geno to 600

 

[huskeynut]

Congrats to Kim. She deserves the recognition.

Now let's get back to the regular season conclusion and the tournaments.

 

[oldude]

Why can’t we just say congratulations and and leave it that no need to make excuses why she was quicker than Geno to 600

I have no problem with congratulating a great coach for achieving a milestone. But when the Baylor SID puts out a press release highlighting names like Rupp, Auriemma & Summitt, it absolutely invites comparisons, whether or not they are actually warranted.

The Baylor SID could have simply issued a congratulatory press release on Kim’s achievement of 600 coaching wins, without the comparison to either current great coaches or legendary coaches from another era, including both MBB & WBB. That would have been classier and far more appropriate.

 

[skilz]

I don't think anyone is "comparing" Kim to Geno, as you just can't. If you had listened to Kim talk about her "600th" win, you would have heard her say that all the credit goes to her coaches that have been with her for a long time, and the players. Whether you like her or not, she is a good coach and milestones like this are good for Women's Basketball!

 

[oldude]

I don't think anyone is "comparing" Kim to Geno, as you just can't. If you had listened to Kim talk about her "600th" win, you would have heard her say that all the credit goes to her coaches that have been with her for a long time, and the players. Whether you like her or not, she is a good coach and milestones like this are good for Women's Basketball!

As I pointed out in my previous post. Baylor University is most definitely comparing Kim to Geno, along with Rupp, Summitt, Williams, Wooden & Smith.

 

[Sonny44]

Mulkey Fastest to 600


It only took 700 games for Mulkey to get to 600 wins. It took Geno 716. Maybe Geno will try harder

That's because she ducked us for several years when we were at our best. .

 

[DefenseBB]

First, we do not need to justify Geno/CD based on this # of wins Ms Mulkey has rightfully achieved. Stop parsing and making excuses for her now owning the record. Let’s congratulate her and be gracious. She is still either 2nd or 3rd in the pecking order (maybe 4th if the PAC12 brethren have anything to say). She has done a great job and looks good for the foreseeable future. She has a tall task ahead to match Geno’s winning percentage and National Titles but that’s the fun of it. Don’t stoop to nitpicking And belittlement, we are better than that. Congrats Kim Mulkey. Keep going and pass MM!

 

[Charliebball]

Mulkey Fastest to 600


It only took 700 games for Mulkey to get to 600 wins. It took Geno 716. Maybe Geno will try harder

you know it's not where you start, it's where you finish..................

 

[bballnut90]

Good point. Good coach, but perhaps we should prorate the wins. For example, wins against teams ranked 300+ only count as half a win.

Then you should prorate Geno's wins compared to Pat's or inflate Pat's wins. The SEC was the premier conference in the 90s and much of the 2000s and Pat always had the #1 SOS in the country. Or reduce Berube's wins since theyve been D2. Bet you dont like that answer though because it doesnt work like that. Wins are wins.

Also, the Big 12 was a good conference in the 00s and turn of the decade. Only the last 7-8 years (roughly as long as the AAC has existed) has the conference been bad. Oklahoma, A&M, and Texas have all had Final Four teams and Iowa State has been a solid program many years too. Kim won her first title without any HS AAs and didnt catch fire with recruiting until Griner/Sims, almost 10 years after taking over the program.

At the end of the day, Kim has been an elite coach and this is a remarkable milestone that deserves comparison to the best of the best. Kim handled the milestone with complete class, giving all credit to her players and coaches. Big congrats to her on this accomplishment.

 

[VAUConnFan]

How many championships did Baylor win with Brittney Griner and Kalani Brown? They won 1 each. That's underachieving. All-time the series is 4-4.

As would winning just one title between 1994-1999 with Lobo, Walters, Rizzotti, Sales, Ralph, Abrosimova if I believed that teams not winning in a one and done format is underachieving.
It would be patently unfair to put Ms Brown in the same category of dominance as Ms Griner.
Despite individual greatness within a given player, basketball is still a team game.

 

[Carnac]

Congratulations to her. She's a excellent recruiter and a fine coach. She's a worthy competitor to our Coach Geno.

Like Notre Dame (most of the time) Louisville, Maryland, South Carolina and Baylor can be depended upon to give UConn one of the best challenges of the season. Anytime Baylor (like UConn) is on your schedule, it is usually circled.

 

[Zanzman]

I have no problem with congratulating a great coach for achieving a milestone. But when the Baylor SID puts out a press release highlighting names like Rupp, Auriemma & Summitt, it absolutely invites comparisons, whether or not they are actually warranted.

The Baylor SID could have simply issued a congratulatory press release on Kim’s achievement of 600 coaching wins, without the comparison to either current great coaches or legendary coaches from another era, including both MBB & WBB. That would have been classier and far more appropriate.

The people that know Know

 

[hussybulldog]

Geno started with a way lesser-achieving team than Kim did.

After three seasons at UConn, Auriemma/Dailey had won 43 games.
After three seasons at Baylor, Mulkey had won 72 games.
The difference is 29 games. So, since each of their first three seasons, Kim is 13 games behind Geno/Chris.

Baylor DID stink up the place in 1999-2000, the year before Kim arrived, going 7-20. But Baylor had winning records in the three preceding seasons.

UConn, on the other hand, had losing records - never winning more than nine games - for the four years prior to Geno's (and Chris's) arrival in 1985-1986. Further, UConn only had ONE winning season, 16-14 in 1980-1981, prior to the Geno/Chris era.

Also, Baylor was a prominent feature on the national college sports scene in several sports prior to Kim's first year. And since. That had to help her recruiting efforts.

UConn, however, wasn't a blip on the national college sports radar screen before Auriemma/Dailey in any sport, and they started recruiting from Ground Zero, so to speak.

Neither Baylor nor UConn had ever played in the NCAA Tournament prior to Mulkey's arrival at Baylor or Auriemma's/Dailey's arrival at UConn.

Baylor went 21-9 in Kim's first year and made the NCAA Tournament (first round loss).
UConn had a (the only) losing record at 12-15 in Geno's/Chris's first year and didn't make the NCAA Tournament until their fourth year when UConn went 24-9 in 1988-1989 (first round loss).

I have great respect for Kim Mulkey's coaching and recruiting ability, but the fact that she made it to 600 victories 16 games faster than Geno/Chris is a more a product of the condition of their respective programs at the onset of their tenures than an indication of comparative coaching competence.

So what? A win is a win. One may say Geno has had more No. 1 player out of high schools ..so is he supposed to win more games? Shall we discount his winning number ?