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I still can't believe people think that Geno quote from Sunday was a shot at Muffet. As if Muffet is on Geno's mind minutes after losing a close game to a top 10 team. When conspiracy theories meet WCBB I guess. In contrast Muffet perpetuates the myth that Geno is some shadowy figure sitting in a smoky back room pulling the marionette strings of all things women's basketball from college all the way up to the Olympic level. Makes me wonder what percentage of people involved in this game are just nuts and need an intervention.
 
WiseOne said:
Do y’all understand that this lady is trying her best to stay relevant??? UCONN has a permanent Air B&B her head!!!! I love it and I’m here for it. Every time she or anyone mentions UCONN, it’s less work for the school when it comes to recruiting. Is she married or have any kids or grandkids to occupy her time???
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Excellent assessment of Muffet and what is driving her at times bizzare comments. I would add that each time she can shift the narrative over to UConn and its role in her mind as the evil empire, she hopes there will be less questions regarding her last few years at Notre Dame and how she let her program plummet into the dregs of womens college basketball.
 
I'm not interested in excusing her behavior, the Stewie brush-off was unforgivable (among many things), an ungracious winner, horrible loser...

But isn't that the point; some people are wired to win, can't accept losing...

Geno wasn't particularly gracious the other day...surprised me, I thought he would have been pleased at how the team competed (as did most of this forum); instead he dwelled on their shooting themselves in the foot. And after the Georgia game...negativity piled on negativity.

Perhaps a little unfair, but can you imagine Dawn when she gets a clunker team.

Muffit just hasn't been able to let go, comprehend her career in its entirety.
Too bad for her.

A great coach, was wonderful to her kids, a total disaster in her fears, anguish, and insecurities.
 
HuskyNan said:
Well, I guess that job as a talking head on ESPN is out now, huh? Odd that ESPN didn’t snap her up the second she retired. Andy Landers, Carolyn Peck, LaChina Robinson, all former coaches, have made a pretty good living and gotten a lot of shine for their work. Should be an appealing job for a former coach.
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Robinson was an assistant in charge of recruiting for one year. Does that really qualify as a former coach in the company of Landers and Peck? Besides, she is a studio host, not an analyst.
 
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Jordy said:
Robinson was an assistant in charge of recruiting for one year. Does that really qualify as a former coach in the company of Landers and Peck? Besides, she is a studio host, not an analyst.
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I stand corrected on the coach, I had thought she was an assistant head coach. As for the analyst, ESPN seems to think she’s one.

espnpressroom.com

LaChina Robinson

LaChina Robinson is an award-winning host and basketball analyst for ESPN. Now in her 15th WNBA season, she also covered college basketball for 12 years. Robinson originally joined ESPN in 2009 as a college basketball analyst and reporter. Her extensive work spans all of the sport’s major events...
espnpressroom.com

My goodness but you do love to point out errors, don’t you?
 
Orangutan said:
I downloaded this gif preemptively for whenever this thread got started
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Haha, you're welcome. ;)

TheFarmFan said:
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I think we should try to view this from Muffet‘s viewpoint. We don’t know what’s going on in her life. Maybe she was anticipating that this would be a live interview and she would get a chance to get out of the house and go into the studio. Maybe they have really good muffins and she was looking forward to them. We don’t know.

Maybe Miss Muffet was miffed because she missed her muffins. Should we give her a Mulligan?

[whispers] i’ll just see myself out.
 
UConn82 said:
I can ignore a lot. Muffet was a great coach, for sure.

But I will never, ever forgive her for not applauding when Stewie won the MOP. I think this was Stewie's junior year.

OK, you want to hate Geno. Be my guest. Geno is an acquired taste. But to be far less than gracious to a student athlete? And to someone as sweet as Stewie? That is baseless and base.

I never think about her. She is not worth it.
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Irony of ironies and come-uppance all in one: Jewell Lyod , Stewie's team mate
 
msf22b said:
I'm not interested in excusing her behavior, the Stewie brush-off was unforgivable (among many things), an ungracious winner, horrible loser...

But isn't that the point; some people are wired to win, can't accept losing...

Geno wasn't particularly gracious the other day...surprised me, I thought he would have been pleased at how the team competed (as did most of this forum); instead he dwelled on their shooting themselves in the foot. And after the Georgia game...negativity piled on negativity.

Perhaps a little unfair, but can you imagine Dawn when she gets a clunker team.

Muffit just hasn't been able to let go, comprehend her career in its entirety.
Too bad for her.

A great coach, was wonderful to her kids, a total disaster in her fears, anguish, and insecurities.
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Muffet was a very good coach, and recruiter. She was one of the better coaches at teaching match up zone, which is very hard to play against if done well. Personally, I lost a lot of respect for her and her program when Arike Ogunbowale put on quite a display of unsportsmanlike behavior in the game where she undercut CW, got a technical for her interaction with GA, and topped it off with a horrendous body check on Crystal Dangerfield at mid court which was right in front of the ND bench. She wasn’t removed from the game until she committed another unsportsmanlike foul on CD when she objected to being pressured in the backcourt. Of course she made up for all of this by refusing to shake hands or acknowledge GA in the postgame line. Most of the coaches I have interacted with would have had the hook out after the first of these, not the last.

JMO
 
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There was a moment in an NCAA telecast in the early 2000s that I found all telling about Muffet's personality. UConn was playing in the night game and ND had won the early game. The camera was panning around (time out? end of quarter?) and the color person spotted Muffet watching from the player/team tunnel. I suppose Muffet saw herself on the big screen, and she did a slither into the darkness of the tunnel. She didn't want to be seen studying UConn before they met. She was too jealous to actually be seen to be caught watching Geno work. The look on her face I will never forget. A baleful glare.
 
oldude said:
I almost feel sorry for MM. She is lost right now. Her long and successful tenure at ND ended badly, and I suspect prematurely, including several stunning emotional outbursts. Now, like many of us, she’s sitting at home, constrained and frustrated by a pandemic that seems endless, and she wants to be relevant again.

MM isn’t Andy Landers or Carolyn Peck. She doesn’t have the personality or ability to present a “non-biased” view of WBB, at least not until she is able to get over whatever bitterness she still holds in her heart.

I would also add that in a perverse kind of way, MM is jealous that ND has moved on under Niele Ivey, who’s picked up the pieces of the wreck that MM left her and quickly started to rebuild WBB in South Bend. Maybe she thought that everyone would appreciate her more if ND WBB crashed and burned under her successor.
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Muffet is Ivey's biggest cheerleader. There is no animosity there. Ivey is like a daughter to Muffet.

 
hoopsfan22 said:
I still can't believe people think that Geno quote from Sunday was a shot at Muffet. As if Muffet is on Geno's mind minutes after losing a close game to a top 10 team. When conspiracy theories meet WCBB I guess. In contrast Muffet perpetuates the myth that Geno is some shadowy figure sitting in a smoky back room pulling the marionette strings of all things women's basketball from college all the way up to the Olympic level. Makes me wonder what percentage of people involved in this game are just nuts and need an intervention.
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Who else is the quote in reference to then? He clearly has someone (or multiple coaches) in mind. And considering their history it doesn't seem far fetched that it's Muffet, especially since she fits the description perfectly and there's not one else in women's basketball who fits the scenario he's describing.
 
What a small person..maybe she's still embarrassed how how pathetic her last ND team was..most coaches would like to go out on top or close to it not near the bottom where her team was her last year..it's kind of fun reading everyone coming after the Evil Empire..Years and years of frustration of Uconn winning has built up so much jealousy from other coaches with MM being at the top of the list
 
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bballnut90 said:
Who else is the quote in reference to then? He clearly has someone (or multiple coaches) in mind. And considering their history it doesn't seem far fetched that it's Muffet, especially since she fits the description perfectly and there's not one else in women's basketball who fits the scenario he's describing.
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Where in the press conference did Geno mention Muffet or Notre Dame?
 
HuskyNan said:
I stand corrected on the coach, I had thought she was an assistant head coach. As for the analyst, ESPN seems to think she’s one.

espnpressroom.com

LaChina Robinson

LaChina Robinson is an award-winning host and basketball analyst for ESPN. Now in her 15th WNBA season, she also covered college basketball for 12 years. Robinson originally joined ESPN in 2009 as a college basketball analyst and reporter. Her extensive work spans all of the sport’s major events...
espnpressroom.com

My goodness but you do love to point out errors, don’t you?
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I stand corrected. I’ve only seen her hosting. Thanks for the clarification.
 
bballnut90 said:
He didn't, but he clearly has someone in mind when he says, "I'm not like some coaches I've seen over the years sit up here and cry cause their team's getting their ass kicked after they've won so many games after all these years." It's a shot at somebody and Muffet fits the description spot on. Who is it directed at if it isn't Muffet?
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And the sentence before that he said "I don't think anyone's having pity parties for Connecticut." He's right. UConn like many other great programs over the years isn't going to get much sympathy because they hit a rough patch for the first time in a decade (or two). He wasn't referring to any one specific coach since he said coaches, and like he said he wasn't going to name names, and if I had to bet, there's a good chance he wasn't even talking about WCBB coaches or maybe even college basketball coaches at all.

For Geno to be referring to Muffet means he would have literally meant crying as opposed to complaining/whining/self-pitying/excusing the state of affairs within his program which some coaches may have done after a tough situation over the past four decades in which Geno has coached; that Geno even knew about the incident years ago where Muffet was apparently caught on camera during a game or press conference with tears; and that Geno was thinking about that one incident he may or may not have knowledge about from years ago just minutes after his team lost a tough game against a top opponent. That's a lot of things that have to line up to turn Geno's "I'm not going to sit up here and make excuses or expect pity for our team that has kicked so many asses over the years" into "CLEAR SHOT AT MUFFET!!!!!!!"

Do you think Geno was watching that ND game where Muffet was crying? Or do you think Shea ran into his office the next morning to tell him about it? Maybe CD called him while it was happening and said "you've got to see this!" Perhaps Geno is a big internet meme guy and spent the day after retweeting it and posting it around social media? How do you think this critical piece of information came into Geno's consciousness such that it was the first thing that popped into his head after a loss to Louisville years later?
 
Justavisitor said:
Muffet is Ivey's biggest cheerleader. There is no animosity there. Ivey is like a daughter to Muffet.

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Normally I would agree with you, particularly as MM supported Ivey, who worked for her for many seasons, as her successor. But MM has a character flaw that she too often displays through her unfiltered remarks, as she did with her ungracious remarks when Stewie was named NPOY.

MM has a tendency to frame everything in terms of how it reflects on her. She would do well to consider the remarks of Paige Bueckers after receiving the ESPY, when she said something to the effect that, “Celebrating the achievements of others does not diminish you.”
 
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Jordy said:
Robinson was an assistant in charge of recruiting for one year. Does that really qualify as a former coach in the company of Landers and Peck? Besides, she is a studio host, not an analyst.
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...and Muffet couldn't even beat out a lowly assistant to become one of ESPN's talking heads.. I agree with some of those here who used to respect Muffet as a coach and a representative of many of the good things in WCBB. How she devolved into a caricature of both a coach and a role model would be an interesting psychological character study.
 
Twolf said:
Muffet was a very good coach, and recruiter. She was one of the better coaches at teaching match up zone, which is very hard to play against if done well. Personally, I lost a lot of respect for her and her program when Arike Ogunbowale put on quite a display of unsportsmanlike behavior in the game where she undercut CW, got a technical for her interaction with GA, and topped it off with a horrendous body check on Crystal Dangerfield at mid court which was right in front of the ND bench. She wasn’t removed from the game until she committed another unsportsmanlike foul on CD when she objected to being pressured in the backcourt. Of course she made up for all of this by refusing to shake hands or acknowledge GA in the postgame line. Most of the coaches I have interacted with would have had the hook out after the first of these, not the last.

JMO
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I lost any and all respect for Arike after this gutless and boorish display of disrespect and a complete lack of sportsmanship. She openly cursed Geno during that game. It was heard by numerous UConn fans sitting directly behind the UConn bench.

One of those fans reported it here in the yard in detail. McGraw never made Ogunbowale apologize to Geno for cursing him, but she did offer an apology to Notre Dame fans for her irreverent on court behavior. I was a fan of the WNBA Dallas Wings until she joined the team.

I lost interest in them after that. That incident showed us the real Muffet McGraw. Do you think a UConn player would ever openly curse an opposing coach and not be made to apologize and suffer some kind of punishment?
 
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