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Rufus said:
sports.yahoo.com

Mountain West Conference pauses expansion amid legal dispute with Pac-12

Both conferences are in a legal dispute about poaching fees and are headed back to court after failing to reach an agreement.
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3 Takeaways from Pac-12/Mountain West Mediation Talks 3 Takeaways from Pac-12/Mountain West Mediation Talks

Chaos continues to cloud the future of the Mountain West and one wonders about the upcoming season.

The September hearing stemming from the failure and mediation and have resulting lawsuit between MW and Pac-12 could completely upend the conference.

As a Grand Canyon fan I was excited to see the women in a position to compete with UNLV and now it appears that baring a victory by the MW the Rebels may be running to some power 4 conference.
 
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azfan said:
3 Takeaways from Pac-12/Mountain West Mediation Talks 3 Takeaways from Pac-12/Mountain West Mediation Talks

Chaos continues to cloud the future of the Mountain West and one wonders about the upcoming season.

The September hearing stemming from the failure and mediation and have resulting lawsuit between MW and Pac-12 could completely upend the conference.

as a Grand Canyon fan I was excited to see the women in a position to compete with UNLV and now it appears that baring a victory by the MW the Rebels may be running to some power 4 conference.
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UNLV aint goin to a P4. A move to the PAC is very possible though.
 
The sinking ship MWC had the chance to add NDSU/SDSU/Montana/MontSt and they passed? That mightve been stronger than the new PAC in FB.
As much as conference realignment is bad luck, some of it is just a load of bad decisions.
 
MW is crazy to not find a way to make this happen. I think those schools add value to the PAC-12 too. Imagine football with Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, San Diego State, the 4 Montanas and Dakotas. That would be a fun conference to watch!
 
Rufus said:
MW is crazy to not find a way to make this happen. I think those schools add value to the PAC-12 too. Imagine football with Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, San Diego State, the 4 Montanas and Dakotas. That would be a fun conference to watch!
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Conference USA should be beating a path to their door. That would be a huge boost to their profile.

MAC, for that matter, should be considering. It's against their type/tradition, but it might be their last shot at relevance or survival.
 
Vowelguy said:
Conference USA should be beating a path to their door. That would be a huge boost to their profile.

MAC, for that matter, should be considering. It's against their type/tradition, but it might be their last shot at relevance or survival.
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those 4 schools have a fun football tradition. Those three states combined have less population than just Connecticut. If it matters.
 
TRest said:
those 4 schools have a fun football tradition. Those three states combined have less population than just Connecticut. If it matters.
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Eyeballs come from having a built-in fanbase and/or having a quality product. I would absolutely watch NDSU before a lot of big-market teams. C-USA and MAC have awful products. Adding teams that raise the level of play would be a significant gain.

If not, are they even around in 10 years?
 
Vowelguy said:
Eyeballs come from having a built-in fanbase and/or having a quality product. I would absolutely watch NDSU before a lot of big-market teams. C-USA and MAC have awful products. Adding teams that raise the level of play would be a significant gain.

If not, are they even around in 10 years?
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Agreed, for those conferences. But Connecticut gets the small state/small market reputation keeping it down. I blame the Yankee Conference.
 
Vowelguy said:
The sinking ship MWC had the chance to add NDSU/SDSU/Montana/MontSt and they passed? That mightve been stronger than the new PAC in FB.
As much as conference realignment is bad luck, some of it is just a load of bad decisions.
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Rufus said:
MW is crazy to not find a way to make this happen. I think those schools add value to the PAC-12 too. Imagine football with Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, San Diego State, the 4 Montanas and Dakotas. That would be a fun conference to watch!
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www.pokesnews.com

Exclusive: Commissioner Gloria Nevarez on the Mountain West and College Football’s Future

The Mountain West Conference has been reshaped over the last year. Commissioner Gloria Nevarez believes her conference is in a unique position as the shifting landscape of college athletics continues to reshape the West. “This year is going to be really special,” Nevarez said. “We're in the...
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-> “There are a lot of amazing FCS programs that we would ordinarily be very interested in,” she explained. “There's a two-year waiting period, there's a $5 million fee that needs to be paid, and we just strategically at this time didn't want to take the risk that those bylaws might change, might get more stringent, or the pathway to FBS might close before those schools had an opportunity to join us. So we did not consider FCS this time around—not for lack of potentially great schools.”

For now, the league is holding steady. “Never say never,” Nevarez said. “We're just on pause for now. We're going to get through a media rights [negotiation], but we are constantly looking at membership.” <-
 
The Massey bottom 20 includes 8 teams fromCUSA (of 12) and 7 from the MAC (of 13).
Those conferences could use a significant infusion of talent. They should be looking hard at NDSU et al.
 
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A football only member joining a conference which was in trouble getting this deal is amazing. The MWC must be confident it will receive all those exit fees

"It’s hard to wrap my head around the idea that Northern Illinois, as a football-only member, would receive a “full share” if every school is indeed getting $5 million and change. What’s important to remember is that the total value of the media deal hasn’t been disclosed, so we can’t yet determine exactly what type of share the Huskies are receiving."

"The newly revealed Mountain West membership agreement includes a Grant of Media Rights running from July 1, 2026, through June 30, 2032. It promises “best efforts” to maintain at least $3.5 million annually per school, cobbling together media revenues, exit fees, or other funds to hit that number."

herosports.com

What NIU’s Mountain West Deal Reveals

It’s a win for Northern Illinois … and a big one, if the Mountain West truly delivers on projections of $5 million or more per school.
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I also just learned that the mascot of NIU is not a Husky but a huskie. strange

their campus stadium currently at 28k capacity was also very inexpensive

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($22.6 million in 2024)
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what the heck is even a huskie - that looks more like a banner outside an elementary school, than an FBS athletic field.
The only thing missing is a period " . " right after the "country". Dwight Schrute style
 
Rufus said:
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Judge denies MWC’s motion to dismiss Pac-12 suit

The Pac-12’s conference realignment lawsuit against the Mountain West will proceed after a federal judge denied all four parts of the Mountain West’s motion to dismiss the case.
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Thx for the update.

"Tuesday’s ruling was “highly technical” and “did not address the substance of some of the arguments"

I view this is the judge just sending the case forward to allow for an evaluation of fact. It sure seems to me that the pac-12 clearly agreed to the exit fees or poaching fees but then again there's a reason why our legal system,l the best in the world, can be an agonizing, slow, convoluted process.
 
azfan said:
Thx for the update.

"Tuesday’s ruling was “highly technical” and “did not address the substance of some of the arguments"

I view this is the judge just sending the case forward to allow for an evaluation of fact. It sure seems to me that the pac-12 clearly agreed to the exit fees or poaching fees but then again there's a reason why our legal system,l the best in the world, can be an agonizing, slow, convoluted process.
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A contract is not valid just because it was signed by both parties. Iirc, the poaching fees were only added to the agreement in the last week of negotiations, at a point where the PAC did not have many options left to fill up their schedule.

This will likely end up as a settlement, same with the exit fees. If I'm NIU, I'm starting to get nervous that the figures I was promised are not going to be met
 
UConnTrumbull said:
an extra 5-7 million for playing a few away games a year seems like a no brainer for UConn
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When UConn was in the AAC a financial report was released in 2018 that stated $7.5M spent on travel for the athletic department, and majority of that was football related.

So if you think getting $6M for the MWC in TV rights and then spending maybe up to $10M in travel (thinking 2025 numbers, further west than AAC) then this may not be a good idea.
 
CTBasketball said:
When UConn was in the AAC a financial report was released in 2018 that stated $7.5M spent on travel for the athletic department, and majority of that was football related.

So if you think getting $6M for the MWC in TV rights and then spending maybe up to $10M in travel (thinking 2025 numbers, further west than AAC) then this may not be a good idea.
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Very true I know very little about how much travel costs aggregate too. AAC was all sports though. I can’t imagine it was cheap to fly the non-revenue sports across the country. But I’ll take your word.
 
CTBasketball said:
When UConn was in the AAC a financial report was released in 2018 that stated $7.5M spent on travel for the athletic department, and majority of that was football related.

So if you think getting $6M for the MWC in TV rights and then spending maybe up to $10M in travel (thinking 2025 numbers, further west than AAC) then this may not be a good idea.
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The question isn't what it costs the question is what's the differential compared to what we pay currently.
 
How Sway?! said:
A contract is not valid just because it was signed by both parties. Iirc, the poaching fees were only added to the agreement in the last week of negotiations, at a point where the PAC did not have many options left to fill up their schedule.

This will likely end up as a settlement, same with the exit fees. If I'm NIU, I'm starting to get nervous that the figures I was promised are not going to be met
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If true.... reason to hold in contempt the legal profession and lawyers. Three of the pillars of a free and liberal society are clearly defined property rights, contracts, and a monopoly on violence to the state.

I will say the erosion of confidence in contracts and the bizarre evolution of contract law and sports has negatively impacted integrity of the game.

I'm thinking now on the player side in the NBA of Max contracts which are awake and a nod understanding that the player will not be held to the term and can renegotiate or leave.

I'm also thinking of both college sports conference contracts with their commissioners and individual school contracts with their coaches. There is an inherent level of deception in the notion that two parties sign a contract with the understanding that it's not valid or can be invalidated has led to some very bizarre outcomes.
 

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